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Stones-related locations
Posted by: Benjy ()
Date: August 5, 2008 19:45

Hi to all!
Finally I managed to afford a trip to england and I'm also going to visit London in the middle of August. I'm not sure if this has already been discussed (did't find anything via search tool) but I would be incredibly happy if you experts could give me a few tips concerning stones-related locations which I could visit (like the Sticky Fingers restaurant for example).

Nice greetings from Austria!

2004 Fender USA Telecaster

Zeltweg 1995 - Wr. Neustadt 1998 - Vienna 2006 - Budapest 2007

Re: Stones-related locations
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: August 5, 2008 19:49

I live in Margate (Kent), & just over the road from me is The Nayland Rock Hotel, where Mick & Jerry had their 1990 wedding reception. Bit of a dump now though, so not worth going out of your way...

Re: Stones-related locations
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: August 5, 2008 19:51

here's one of the earlier threads with some ideas for you: [www.iorr.org]

Re: Stones-related locations
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: August 5, 2008 19:54

this site should also help: [home.comcast.net]
enjoy your trip!

Re: Stones-related locations
Posted by: Benjy ()
Date: August 5, 2008 20:00

Thank you all very much!

Can't wait to see all this!!!!

2004 Fender USA Telecaster

Zeltweg 1995 - Wr. Neustadt 1998 - Vienna 2006 - Budapest 2007

Re: Stones-related locations
Posted by: Voja ()
Date: August 5, 2008 20:09

Good times, bad times
Next week the Rolling Stones play what could be their farewell to London. Just two miles - and 43 years - from where it all began at the Crawdaddy Club in Richmond. Dominic Sandbrook charts the long love affair between the
band and the swinging city that launched them When the Rolling Stones make their much-anticipated return to the London stage later this month, it will surely be their farewell to the city in which it all began for them, back in the dreary black-and-white world of the early 1960s.
London calling: The Rolling Stones in their heyday For despite their enormous international popularity and long absences abroad, the Stones are still Londoners at heart. The capital is their city, just as Vienna and Salzburg belonged to Mozart, or Los Angeles to the Beach Boys, or - not that locals would ever let you forget it - Liverpool to
their great rivals, the Beatles. London always played a vital role in the Rolling Stones' story. Of the original five members, only Brian Jones hailed from outside the South East, and he moved down from Cheltenham as soon as he could. His colleagues were all London lads. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards both grew up in Dartford, Bill Wyman was born in Penge and Charlie Watts was an Islington boy. And appropriately enough in an age of urban sprawl, the iconic moments in the Stones' history are scattered across the landscape of Greater London. Mick and Keith first met at Dartford station; they auditioned for Jones's band in Soho; they built up their first following in Richmond; and they made their homes in Chelsea and Marylebone. But the city was more than a convenient backdrop. The Stones were a product of a distinctive place and time: London in the late 1950s and early 1960s, a city that seemed barely altered since the days of wartime and rationing. This was a world of greasy chop-houses, grubby hotels and Lyons teashops, where the shops stayed shut on Sundays and dining out meant a trip to the nearest Angus Steak House. Yet it was also the heart of a vibrant new youth culture built around education and affluence, a world of coffee bars, scooters and blues records, in which thousands of teenagers dreamed of emulating their American heroes. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were just the lucky ones. Four decades on, affluence, immigration and innovation have brought enormous changes to the city where it all began. But underneath the shiny veneer, the Rolling Stones' home town is still there in all its shabby charm. We rarely think of London as having a specific musical heritage, but if you listen carefully to the Stones' greatest albums, there it is: a distinctly English blend, ambition and aggression tempered with a hint of irony, boundless self-confidence jostling with withering cynicism. Rock 'n' roll may be an American art form, but how glorious that its greatest exponents hail from England's irrepressible capital Mick Jagger with Marianne Faithfull, after his run-in with the law
1 Dartford railway station might not sound an historic birthplace, but it was here, one rainy Tuesday morning in October 1961, that the Rolling Stones began their epic journey. Shivering on the platform as he waited for the train to Sidcup, 17-year-old art student Keith Richards spotted the vaguely familiar face of 'Mike' Jagger, an old primary school classmate then studying economics at the LSE. The two had not seen each other for years, but as they started chatting, Keith noticed that Mike was carrying some American blues records. As his train rolled in, Mike explained that he rehearsed with his friends in the privacy of their bedrooms. Would Keith like to join them? Of course he
would, and that night, when he arrived home, Keith rushed to tell his mother the news.
2 In May 1962, the young blues enthusiast Brian Jones placed an advertisement in Jazz News for four like-minded musicians. Auditions were held in the back room at the Bricklayer's Arms, 7 Broadwick Street, a suitably seedy venue in what was then a defiantly run-down corner of Soho. The first recruit was Ian Stewart, a lugubrious jazz pianist from Scotland, but over the next few days aspiring bluesmen Mick Jagger and Keith Richards also drifted into the grubby back room. It was at the pub that the group first practised together, meeting there three times a week at seven o'cloc to work on the chords that would make them famous.
3 For jazz and blues fans in the early 1960s, the Marquee Club at 165 Oxford Street offered paradise. Located in a squat, dark basement beneath the Academy Cinema - now a branch of the Abbey National - the club hosted Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated on Thursday nights. On July 12, 1962, however, Korner was scheduled to appear on BBC radio's Jazz Club, so Brian Jones' new group got their first break. Pushed to come up with a name, Jones settled on 'The Rolling Stones', even though most of his comrades disliked it. 'I hope they don't think we're a rock 'n' roll outfit,' Jagger told Jazz News the night before the gig. But the audience recognised fellow blues fanatics when they saw them, and the concert was a triumph.
4 These days, Edith Grove, Chelsea, just a stone's throw from the King's Road, is a distinctly upmarket address. But in the late summer of 1962, when Jagger, Richards and Jones moved into two rooms at No 102, it was the heart of cheap bed-sitter land. The flat was almost stereotypically awful, its walls soaked with damp, its curtains smeared with dirt, its furniture coated with dust. When the band's new bass player Bill Wyman visited the flat in December, he thought it 'looked like it was bomb-damaged … piled high with dirty dishes, and filth everywhere'. The walls were streaked with spittle, while the communal toilet had been wired for sound so that the boys could amuse themselves by playing back their guests' ablutions. Swinging London it wasn't.
5 The impoverished Rolling Stones made their breakthrough in February 1963, when they played at the Crawdaddy Club in the Station Hotel, Richmond (now a nightclub). The club was run by Giorgio Gomelsky, a black-bearded
Georgian jazz connoisseur who put on blues performances every Saturday night. 'I didn't know whether to laugh at the Stones or call for an animal trainer,' said one watching promoter. But West London was a blues heartland, and every weekend, 300 fans poured across the road from the station into the mirror-lined back room of the Victorian pub. One night the Stones noticed four shadowy figures slipping into the audience. The Beatles had come to check out the competition.
6 The London School of Economics is perhaps the capital's most prestigious academic institution. It was here that Mick Jagger was registered as a student. A bright boy who passed his 11-plus, he was recommended by his school headmaster as 'a lad of good general character, though he has been rather slow to mature'. But once in London, Jagger was more interested in cadences than in Keynesian economics. 'I have been offered a really excellent opportunity in the entertainment world,' he wrote to the LSE in September 1963, explaining his decision to drop out. The school reassured him that he could always come back if the music didn't work out. The LSE's website still refers proudly to 'Sir Mick', its most famous alumnus.
7 Late on the evening of March 18, 1965, the band's chauffeur-driven Daimler pulled into the forecourt of the Francis service station on the Romford Road in Stratford, East London. To the horror of the manager, Charles Keeley, 'a shaggy-haired monster' got out and asked 'in disgusting language' if he could use the toilet. Keeley refused, to which Mick Jagger replied: 'We piss anywhere, man.' Jagger, Jones and Wyman then relieved themselves on the forecourt wall. Keeley called in his lawyers, and the Stones were convicted of breaching the peace. According to the magistrate, they were 'complete morons' who 'wear their hair down to their shoulders, wear filthy clothes and act like
clowns'. Their teenage fans loved it.
8 Flats in Harley House, Marylebone Road now sell for more than £2 millio each; in 1966, Jagger paid just £50 a week for his rooms in this ornate Victorian mansion block. For the Austin Powers of his day, it was the perfect bachelor pad, stuffed with gilded mirrors, Chinese crockery and expensive hi-fi equipment. Jagger was hailed by the press as 'the most fashionable, modish man in London, the voice of today'. Harley House was ideal for a pop star who moved in aristocratic circles. As his girlfriend Marianne Faithfull put it, Jagger could never resist a dinner 'given by any silly thing with a title and a castle.'
9 The Rolling Stones were one of the first bands to record at Olympic Studios, 117 Church Road, Barnes. Built in 1906 as a public hall, the complex was converted into recording studios in the early Sixties, and in 1966 the Stones gathered there to work on Between the Buttons, their fifth album. They liked it so much that they used it for their next five albums, from the psychedelic whimsy of Their Satanic Majesties Request to the raw aggression of Sticky Fingers, and the studios remained a reassuring bolthole throughout the turbulence of the late Sixties. But by 1971, hit by enormous tax bills, the Stones had gone into exile on the French Riviera, where they converted Keith Richards' villa into a huge makeshift studio.
10 One of the most notorious prisons in Britain, Wormwood Scrubs became indelibly associated with the Rolling Stones on June 29, 1967, when Keith Richards spent the night behind bars after his conviction in the Redlands drugs trial (Jagger spent the night at Brixton prison in south London). Richards, Jagger and the fashionable art dealer Robert Fraser had been found guilty of drugs offences after the police raided Richards' Sussex retreat and the trial confirmed the Stones's notoriety. 'We are not old men,' Richards replied when asked why Marianne Faithfull had been clad only in a fur rug. 'We are not worried about petty morals.' Richards and Jagger were released on bail within 24 hours and their sentences were quashed on appeal.
11 In March 1967, Keith Richards spent a few nights at Brian Jones' expensive mansion flat at 1 Courtfield Road, Kensington, from where they were due to drive to Morocco on holiday. Jones was now living in lavish dissolution with the Italian model Anita Pallenberg, and the couple had decorated the flat in the latest North African fabrics and intoxicating hippy colours. But the holiday was a disaster. Jones had a breakdown, Richards and Pallenberg started an affair, and Brian returned alone to the whisky bottles and train sets of his Kensington flat. Ostracised by his old friends, he complained: 'They took my music; they took my band; and now they've taken my love.' He became reliant on drink and drugs. He fled to the countryside, and in May 1969 he was sacked from the band he had founded.
12 Hyde Park hosted the Stones' last big London appearance of the Sixties, an open-air concert in July 1969. The free concert came just days after Brian Jones' death by drowning, and attracted huge publicity. Some 250,000
people gathered in the sunshine to eat ice cream, gambol in the park and listen to the band's first live appearance in a year. Every move the Stones made was tracked by six Granada TV crews. Mick Jagger wore lipstick, eyeshadow, a leather dog-collar and a white frilly dress, recited Shelley and released hundreds of white butterflies into the air. London's gardeners complained for weeks that the butterflies had horribly damaged their plants. The Rolling Stones play Twickenham Stadium on August 20 and 22. Dominic Sandbrook's 'Never Had It So Good, A History of Britain from the Suez to The Beatles' is published by Abacus, £9.99.

Re: Stones-related locations
Posted by: stein ()
Date: August 5, 2008 20:12

Stones related adresses.

Sticky fingers in Phillimore gardens just off Kensington High street
102. Edith Grove: The Ultimate Bachelor Pad.
Mick Jagger, Keith Richards og Brian Jones
13. Chester Street: Brian Jones city flat, right behind Brian Epsteins office.
Kings Road: Royal Avenue House Brian Jones was hided there
16?. Richmond Hill: Downe House, Mick Jagger and Jerry Hall
The Wick. Was Ronnies house before he sold to Pete Townsend. 200 meters from Mick, Keith lived in a small house in his garden
The Crawdaddy. (now called someting else) Just across the road from tube station
7. Mulberry walk Bill Wyman City flat still in use (will not give nr)
81 Powis Square. where Mick made the famous love scene with Anita
Pallenberg when they made the movie, Performance.
13a. Bryanstone Mews East: Mick Jagger lived ther 1965
62. Chester Square: Mick Jagger lived ther under another name 1967.
Also together with Keith.

Rupert Court: Charlie Watts 1964
33. Mapesbury Road: where Mick, Keith og Andrew
Loog Oldham lived 1963-64
48. Cheyne Walk: Mick Jagger from 67 sold in the 80s
3. Cheyne Walk: Keith Richard /Anita Pallenberg
7. Elms Park Lane: where Brian Jones lived in 1965.
49. Kings Road: Chelsea Drugstore. Mick Jagger "You can`t always get
what you want "
62. Ivor Court: Charlie Watts 1964.
4. Denmark Street: Rolling Stones made their first recordings in the
basement
500. Kings Road: The Wetherby Arms it was here the Stones rehearsed
and played in the early days.

10a Holly Hill Hampstead Mick and Keith 1964
5 Charlton Hill Ambassador House Keith 1965



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