Today , I had lunch with a "young " cousin of mine (she is 35 )

She knows how much I am "into" the Stones,so she asked me about the " Truly Bittersweet" 'story .

At first,I didn't know what to answer because I knew that BS wasn't a Stones' song ,then I recognized the song when she sang it & I thought about The last Time



Any comments informations about the contreversy /would be welcomed .
Many thanks .



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .



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It's about this,great song:

If it's about this song I think we discussed this before.

I do hear the E. Loog Oldham version but still can't figure out the Last Time

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If it's about this song I think we discussed this before.

I do hear the E. Loog Oldham version but still can't figure out the Last Time

[en.wikipedia.org]

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It's about this,great song:

OK Amsterdamned.
Sorry to say but this wasn't the answer I was waiting for.

BIP..you failed

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If it's about this song I think we discussed this before.

I do hear the E. Loog Oldham version but still can't figure out the Last Time

If it's about this song I think we discussed this before.


Any links ?

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NICOS
If it's about this song I think we discussed this before.

I do hear the E. Loog Oldham version but still can't figure out the Last Time

If it's about this song I think we discussed this before.


Any links ?

Yes SwayStones:

[en.wikipedia.org]

[www.iorr.org]

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If it's about this song I think we discussed this before.

I do hear the E. Loog Oldham version but still can't figure out the Last Time

If it's about this song I think we discussed this before.


Any links ?

Yes SwayStones:

[en.wikipedia.org]

AMSTERDAMNED,YOU ARE FIRED

Don't you think my questions on IORR deserve more that wikipedia's links???

[www.iorr.org]

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Does that mean I am fired too ???

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Does that mean I am fired too ???

:-)))
No,you are not fired -NOT yet-
I am kidding !

See,each/every time I want to post a "new subject" on IORR, I always use the "Search Button"
Sometimes ,it doesn't work for me ,but I 'm always thankfull to the one who give me the link .

>>The Verve and The Rolling Stones : Truly Bittersweet
The now defunct British outfit The Verve sampled an orchestration on their song "Bittersweet Symphony" from The Rolling Stone's "The Last Time". Before the release of the album, The Verve negotiated a licensing agreement with The Rolling Stones to use the sample -- at least the composition rights to the sample. In 1997, The Verve's album "Urban Hymns" peaked at number 23 on the Billboard Charts. What ensued was a bitter (and not sweet) legal battle resulting in The Verve turning over 100% of the royalties to the Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones argued that The Verve had violated the previous licensing agreement by using too much of the sample in their song. The Verve argued that The Rolling Stones got greedy when the song became successful. Herein lies the issue of moral rights of a samplist.

"The last thing I ever wanted was for my music to be used in a commercial. I'm still sick about it", The Verve's lead singer Richard Ashcroft said in a recent interview. So, that's exactly what Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein did. Capitalizing off the success of the song, Klein licensed The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" to Nike, who proceeded to run a multi-million dollar television campaign using The Verve's song over shots of its sneakers. Klein also used the song to hawk Vauxhall automobiles. Additionally, though the song was authored by The Rolling Stones, the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra performed the sampled recording and also filed suit upon the success of the song. (Herein lies a fine caveat to license both the recording and composition rights from whomever maintains them.) To add even more insult to injury, when "Bittersweet Symphony" was nominated for a Grammy, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were named the nominees and not The Verve. What could be more "Bittersweet" than your song reaching the top of the charts and not being able to enjoy a cent of its success?<<



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .



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.Wikipedia's info is enough for me.

BIP ...Blank ..here you failed again.
Cheers,
SwayStones.

BIP ???

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Yeah Amsterdamned your fired ........!!!!!!!!!





ROCKMAN

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BIP ???

Or bips?

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Yeah Amsterdamned your fired ........!!!!!!!!!

No problem:

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Yeah Amsterdamned your fired ........!!!!!!!!!

No problem:

I am glad both of you are having a good time and making a fool of/out of me .
Enjoy !


Actually ,I was sure that neither you ,Amsterdamned,nor the other "connaisseur" ...would give a serious answer to my question



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Yeah Amsterdamned your fired ........!!!!!!!!!

No problem:

I am glad both of you are having a good time and making a fool of/out of me .
Enjoy !


Actually ,I was sure that neither you ,Amsterdamned,nor the other "connaisseur" ...would give a serious answer to my question

Oh no, that's emotinal blackmail...,truly bittersweet......

Now I still don't know what BIP means

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Sway....... me don't fully understand the Q ....



ROCKMAN

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Rockman
Yeah Amsterdamned your fired ........!!!!!!!!!

No problem:

I am glad both of you are having a good time and making a fool of/out of me .
Enjoy !


Actually ,I was sure that neither you ,Amsterdamned,nor the other "connaisseur" ...would give a serious answer to my question

Oh no, that's emotinal blackmail...

This isn't an emotional blackmail my dear ....(hey,btw,you forgot the 'o'
on " emotinal";


I've told you once and I've told you twice
Someone'll have to pay the price
Here's the chance to change your mind


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Now I still don't know what BIP means

I found this,not on wikipedia though...
Am I on the job again SwayStones?

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Rockman
Sway....... me don't fully understand the Q ....

Rockman,
"ME" never fully understood U ...but I tried .

But if you try sometimes ....well ..I guess you just might find .

"ME" never fully understood U ...but I tried

The Horse Thief leaves no trail......



ROCKMAN

This isn't an emotional blackmail my dear ....(hey,btw,you forgot the 'o'
on " emotional";<Sway>


I've told you once and I've told you twice
Someone'll have to pay the price
Here's the chance to change your mind
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SwayStones, it was her second name..
Cheers my dear.



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I found this,not on wikipedia though...
Am I on the job again SwayStones?

No,you're not.
See, I will ask bv to delate my thread because I don't like it when you -and some "others" don't take me seriously .

Plus I can see that no one was able to give me the good /right answer .



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