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gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: rocksoffKR ()
Date: August 9, 2007 17:22

is gimme shelter in the key of a? when i solo using the key of a scale or d mixolydian it sounds okay but not great, or should i stick in the key of c#?

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Benjy ()
Date: August 9, 2007 17:29

I think it's better to do it in c#. Better for solos and it's the original key i guess.

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Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: rocksoffKR ()
Date: August 9, 2007 17:36

thanks, im just trying to listen and play along with the 72 live version so any advice on those would be helpful too

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: August 9, 2007 18:52

Definitely C#. Mick Taylor's solos on that song are amongst my favorites. Keep on playing man!

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: 6853 ()
Date: August 9, 2007 18:53

i suggest f# of c# and a basic blues scale in respecive cases..
f# e d
c# b a

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: August 9, 2007 19:28

It's in the key of C#. Do the solos in the C# minor pentatonic scale.

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: 6853 ()
Date: August 9, 2007 19:34

what notes would that be TD07 ?

( have forgotten all that homechordscales - terminology )

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: therollingmanu ()
Date: August 9, 2007 21:33

6853 Wrote:
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> what notes would that be TD07 ?
>
> ( have forgotten all that homechordscales -
> terminology )


try the C# minor pentatonic scale starting with C# on the 9th fret, E string. then E, F# and G# on the A string, B and C# on the D string, E, F# on the D string, G# and B on the B string and C# and E on the e strning again. That would be the C# minor pentatonic scale. Hope I explained it in a way u understand it, I'm not sure I'd know, what I mean... winking smiley

makes a great gimme shelter solo though.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2007-08-09 21:46 by therollingmanu.

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: cc ()
Date: August 9, 2007 21:38

yeah, just do "the box" starting at the 9th fret.

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: 6853 ()
Date: August 9, 2007 21:51

the scale is then : root note - little triad - fourth - fifth - minor seventh

which is exsactly the blues scale...

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: phd ()
Date: August 9, 2007 22:16

What key ? The best one.

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: August 9, 2007 23:31

Yeah, just do pentatonic minor C#. The only problem is that it will only get you through half of Taylor's '72 and '73 Gimme Shelter solo's!

Mathijs

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Nelson ()
Date: August 9, 2007 23:35

The master key-graundskeeper willy got it.

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: August 9, 2007 23:38

What's a 'graundskeeper' ?

Mathijs

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Nelson ()
Date: August 9, 2007 23:51

I really dont-but he use to get very upset.

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: August 10, 2007 00:00

I tried it in a major gintonic scale - 'till it flowed....winking smiley

keep on trying.

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Nelson ()
Date: August 10, 2007 00:09

Then we are2-hey ho

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: August 10, 2007 04:12

6853 Wrote:
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> what notes would that be TD07 ?
>
> ( have forgotten all that homechordscales -
> terminology )


I see other people have already explained this to you but I think most people (at least most blues players) don't really think of scales in terms of notes, but rather in terms of patterns. They have the pattern on the fretboard of the notes they can play and where their fingers can go. You do have to keep the location of the root notes in mind but you more or less just stay within the box patterns and (for the most part) start and end your solos and licks on a root note.

Re: gimme shelter what key?
Posted by: Child Of Clay ()
Date: August 10, 2007 08:25

a good way to start one of the licks on a Gimme Shelter solo would be to bend a 12th fret B-note on the B-string to C#. I know, I know, it's very elementary! But what I mean it kind of works even better for this song than the old IV to V-bend. Shit, I use this minor pentatonic scale for nearly all my solos, and even resort to very similar licks, I could almost play my Brown Sugar-fake over GS, only half a step higher. Oh well, maybe I'll get out of that rut one of these days.
On that note (duh), sometimes one might try and add this odd note (G) to that scale:
c#-e-f#- G -g#-b-c#
works in the right places



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