Does anyone know (with certainty) the current citizenship of the 4 Rolling Stones and their primary residences. To my recollection Charlie has lived for the past several years in or near Paris (French?), Ronnie in England (British?), Keith in Connecticut, (US?) and Mick on some island in the Carribean (Bermudan?). This might get confusing.

I believe they all still have their british passports - maybe dual nationalities, dunno.

>> To my recollection Charlie has lived for the past several years in or near Paris (French?) <<

aren't you thinking of Mick and/or Bill having places in France?
i know all the current Stones have places in England; and i know Keith, Mick and Ronnie also have places elsewhere,
but i'm not sure whether Charlie does. i've never heard about any of them changing their citizenship.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-05-10 21:43 by with sssoul.

None...citizens of the world...that's what keeps them Rolling Stones.

PECMAN

Duane in Houston Wrote:
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> Does anyone know (with certainty) the current
> citizenship of the 4 Rolling Stones and their
> primary residences. To my recollection Charlie has
> lived for the past several years in or near Paris
> (French?), Ronnie in England (British?), Keith in
> Connecticut, (US?) and Mick on some island in the
> Carribean (Bermudan?). This might get confusing.



All are British citizens, having been born in the Uk and having homes there - why wouldnt they be otherwise?

Keith apparently has dual US nationality however, being resident in and married to an American. It was also the reason why he abstained when the band voted to postpone the UK tour in 1998 for tax reasons, as he was the only band member who wasnt liable to pay the tax

Ronnie's main residence is in the Republic of Ireland, but he still has a home in Kingston-Upon-Thames.

Charlie lives in England all of the time, his main residence is in Devon. Its been a LONG time since he lived in France. Maybe youre thinking of Bill, who still has a chateau there as well as his home in England.

Keith's main residence is in Connecticut, but he still has a home in England (Redlands) plus the Caribbean. I think he still has that place in Jamaica, unless he sold it when he acquired that other place in the Caribbean. Was it St Barts? I'm sures omeone can clarify. Not sure if he still has that apartment in Paris near the Place Vendome.

Mick is in England most of the time but has a chateau in the Loire Valley in France and a home on Mustique. Technically, Jerry Hall got Downe House in Richmond in their divorce settlement but he lived in an annexe in the house for a couple of years and then a suite in a prominent central London hotel. Officially, he no longer lives at Downe House but from what I was told by local restaurant owners in the area last August, he's still there quite regularly! Havent heard any reports for some time about him being at that Upper West Side apartment he had for many years in Manhattan, so maybe he no longer has it?

Keith has a place in Parrot Cay, turks....

Cheers.

Gazza Wrote:
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> Keith's main residence is in Connecticut, but he
> still has a home in England (Redlands) plus the
> Caribbean. I think he still has that place in
> Jamaica, unless he sold it when he acquired that
> other place in the Caribbean. Was it St Barts? I'm
> sures omeone can clarify. Not sure if he still has
> that apartment in Paris near the Place Vendome.
>

Keith gave Point of View to Marlon a few years back. If I remember correctly, he bought a place in the Turks and Caicos.

Ronnie's main residence is in the Republic of Ireland, but he still has a home in Kingston-Upon-Thames.


Actually Ronnie's bought a house in London, just a few houndred yards from Philmore Gardens. They had a big party there last summer, (Twickers shows) and the neighbours called the cops... The music was LOUD.
Micks got a house in Richmond, and has also bought a house in Chelsea (last year, I think). Then there's the chateau in Tours in the Loire Valley and Stargroves in Mystique and Stargroves in Sussex(?)

Keith of course has the house in Weston, Ct, Redlands and also Parrot Cay in Turks & Caicos, and 2 flats at 4th Street, NYC, above the old Tower Records. Marlon and family live in one of them.

And yes, they're all Englishmen! And that's elementary.

Tralala Wrote:
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>
>
> Actually Ronnie's bought a house in London, just a
> few houndred yards from Philmore Gardens. They had
> a big party there last summer, (Twickers shows)
> and the neighbours called the cops... The music
> was LOUD.

the party was in Kingston as far as I recall (I was in Kingston and Richmond for the London shows). He definitely still has a house there. I'm sure paulywaul will verify as he lives nearby


> Micks got a house in Richmond,

Downe House is the one on Richmond Hill I was referring to. Jerry now owns it as part of their divorce settlement. As you may know, The Wick (formerly Ronnie's home and now owned by Pete Townshend) is literally less than 100 yards down the street.

and has also bought
> a house in Chelsea (last year, I think). Then
> there's the chateau in Tours in the Loire Valley
> and Stargroves in Mystique and Stargroves in
> Sussex(?)

I think Rod Stewart bought Stargroves (the English one) some years ago. Its in Berkshire as far as I recall, not Sussex. I dont think Mick ever got around to buying another London house. His hotel bill since officially moving out of Downe House in 2003 was estimated in the UK press a year or so ago and it was astronomical.

Gazza Wrote:
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> the party was in Kingston as far as I recall.

Right you are.

Gazza Wrote:
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and Stargroves in
> > Sussex(?)
>
> I think Rod Stewart bought Stargroves (the English
> one) some years ago. Its in Berkshire as far as I
> recall, not Sussex.


Yes, Stargroves is at East Woodhay in Berkshire. Rod Stewart did indeed own it, more recently it was owned by Frank Williams (Formula One racing car boss), he now lives in my Berkshire village and I'm not sure who owns Stargroves. They've spent a fortune on it recently, it has been renovated and won a bunch of awards for Listed Building renovation:

I think Mick has/had a house in the Bahamas on Paradise Island. Next door to Geraldine Chaplin.

Tralala Wrote:
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> Ronnie's main residence is in the Republic of
> Ireland, but he still has a home in
> Kingston-Upon-Thames.
>
>
> Actually Ronnie's bought a house in London, just a
> few houndred yards from Philmore Gardens. They had
> a big party there last summer, (Twickers shows)
> and the neighbours called the cops... The music
> was LOUD.
> Micks got a house in Richmond, and has also bought
> a house in Chelsea (last year, I think). Then
> there's the chateau in Tours in the Loire Valley
> and Stargroves in Mystique and Stargroves in
> Sussex(?)
>
> Keith of course has the house in Weston, Ct,
> Redlands and also Parrot Cay in Turks & Caicos,
> and 2 flats at 4th Street, NYC, above the old
> Tower Records. Marlon and family live in one of
> them.
>
> And yes, they're all Englishmen! And that's
> elementary.

<<< Actually Ronnie's bought a house in London, just a few houndred yards from Philmore Gardens. They had a big party there last summer, (Twickers shows)
and the neighbours called the cops... The music was LOUD

Incorrect ... his London residence is a house in Kingston upon Thames (a Victorian hunting Lodge on Kingston Hill directly opposite the entrance to the University), and it was THERE that the party you speak of took place.



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the stones dont actually own any homes. They have shell companies. Keith still owns(well monroe music does) point of veiw regardless of who lives in it! he also has other places in the carribean

Phillimore Gdns is in kensington

OLDKR

What about the children citizenship?
Why Theodora and her sister should be british?
Jade could be nicaraguaian,

When did Mick sell it? How sad. Keep in mind "Sway" was recorded there.

Gazza Wrote:
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> I dont think Mick ever got
> around to buying another London house. His hotel
> bill since officially moving out of Downe House in
> 2003 was estimated in the UK press a year or so
> ago and it was astronomical.

Acutally he did buy a new house in London last year from a friend of mine's parents.
And I am not joking.

dunhill Wrote:
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> Gazza Wrote:
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> > I dont think Mick ever got
> > around to buying another London house. His
> hotel
> > bill since officially moving out of Downe House
> in
> > 2003 was estimated in the UK press a year or so
> > ago and it was astronomical.
>
> Acutally he did buy a new house in London last
> year from a friend of mine's parents.
> And I am not joking.

Some gaff in Chelsea I think, right ?

paulywaul Wrote:
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> Some gaff in Chelsea I think, right ?
I have to ask, I know it cost him a few pounds ;-)

dunhill Wrote:
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> paulywaul Wrote:
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> > Some gaff in Chelsea I think, right ?
> I have to ask, I know it cost him a few pounds ;-)

Don't go to any great lengths to find out, I just vaguely recall reading it in some London paper, probably the Evening Standard ?

oldkr Wrote:
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> the stones dont actually own any homes.

A billion dollars between them and theyre all homeless.

another tax dodge, I presume?

It's very simple. All the Stones are British Citizens. Keith is slightly different as he also (and he's the only one) has American Citizenship. He has what is known as Dual-Nationality.

Big Al Wrote:
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> It's very simple. All the Stones are British
> Citizens. Keith is slightly different as he also
> (and he's the only one) has American Citizenship.
> He has what is known as Dual-Nationality.


smart move, can't be found inadmissable when trying to enter the U.S. if you are a citizen!

When looking back, it must of been pretty damn hard for Keith to get Citizenship with all his previous drug problems. Certainly marrying an American would've helped, but that wouldn't have made it a legal entitlement.

keith's real police -drug problems were some 30 years ago.... a long time ago...plus he married a american.....so he now can live anyplace in the usa...just like me!

Big Al Wrote:
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> When looking back, it must of been pretty damn
> hard for Keith to get Citizenship with all his
> previous drug problems. Certainly marrying an
> American would've helped, but that wouldn't have
> made it a legal entitlement.


Just like here in the Netherlands, and I guess it's not very different anywhere else in the western world, being admitted as a citizen is a very very very dubious business, regarding who experiences how much trouble... Our princess, wife of the future king is from Argentina, she off course received her citizenship without any hesitation or wrinkle in the procedure. In fact, there has not been any procedure, while we try to keep as many foreigners out as possible. I guess that in the same way, there has been aucune problem for Keith being admitted to the states: Richards? NO!! Ah KEITH Richards? YES OF COURSE you're welcome...

Jelle

Keith isn't a US citizen. He doesn't have to pay personal income tax in the UK because he is officially domiciled in CT.

And as for dual-nationality, when you aquire US citizenship, you are seen purely as a US citizen. From the american point of view you have recinded you previous citizenship. Other countries so sanction dual-nationality however.

If Mick, who also has LPR status in the US was officially domiciled in the US he wouldnt pay UK personal income taxes either.



OLDKR

>> And as for dual-nationality, when you aquire US citizenship, you are seen purely as a US citizen.
From the american point of view you have recinded you previous citizenship. <<

that varies, actually, depending on the other country involved and its relations with the US.
for example it used to be that the US recognized dual citizenship for Poles who acquired US citizenship,
but if US citizens acquired Polish citizenship, their US citizenship was rescinded. nowadays both kinds of duality are honoured by both countries.

sorry for the digression!

All the Stones were British Citizans by birth and I don't think that can be changed. As far as UK Nationality laws go, we allow dual-nationality and having met several people in my line of work with both US and UK citizenship, I'd of thought that is what Keith has.