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Yes, he wrote about it in Life. I think he said he went there for...inspiration?
Whatever, doesn't matter, it's one heck of a song.
You know what I want to hear...
Yes, Keith tells in his book LIFE that he was inspired in a Jamaican brothel.
And he dindn´t even touched one of the pretty little black girls ;-)
Of course he did not. He´s married.
The song is a highlight on B2B, one of their most uneven albums ever. One of Keith´s nicest reggae attempts. Sooner or later GasLightStreet will come by and tell us that the song isn´t reggae but to me it is, it has a warm and sunny island-feeling. Best Keith-song on the album, no doubt. His next solo-album - which will be released in 2036 - should be a reggae-album.
Definitely! I'm surprised by the great feedback on this one, it seems to get bashed a lot. Possibly the naysayers haven't gotten around to posting yet.
A great grooving reggae'ish tune, love the horns, and Keith nails the vocals! Love the "Ooohhhh"s in this one.
Jeez, talk about nitpicking. This is a drummer (with Wyman) who artfully adapted to a multitude of styles from blues to psychedelia to disco.
What I like about B2B is the production, they've certainly had more sterile releases.
Tracks like How Can I Stop, Lowdown and Thief In The Night sound excellent, while many other tracks lack warmth, imo. There is no "one production" of this album, there is several - hence many tracks have a different sound.
Production techniques and arrangement choices are at times interesting on B2B, imo, but the cohesive sound is not there.
Yeah I love and appreciate Charlie - no need to be condescending and preach about him to me.
But since people have been labeling this a 'reggae' song, the only thing that prevents this from being a truly great reggae song is probably the drumming IMO.
Bad production and a drum beat that sounds like a drum machine. He's played better on other Stones reggae tunes, i.e. Too Rude and Cherry Oh Baby.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha. Well, for one thing, You Don't Have To Mean It is more reggae than DIRTY WORK is an album.
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Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
NICOS
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Date: July 18, 2016 09:51
Comments, input and alterations are very welcome!
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You Don’t Have To Mean It
Composers: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Recording date: March-July 1997
Recording location: Ocean Way Recording Studios, Los Angeles, USA
Producers: Don Was, Rob Fraboni & The Glimmer Twins
Chief engineers: Rob Fraboni & Dan Bosworth
Release date: 27th September: The Rolling Stones CD ‘Bridges To Babylon’
Label: Rolling Stones Records ?– V 2840, (Virgin)
Line-up:
Lead vocal: Keith Richards
Electric guitars: Keith Richards & Ron Wood
Drums: Charlie Watts
Bass: Darryl Jones
Background vocals: Keith Richards
Background vocals: Bernard Fowler
Background vocals: Blondie Chaplin
Piano: Clinton Clifford
Organ: Clinton Clifford
Saxophone: Joe Sublett
Trumpet: Darrell Leonard
Percussion: Jim Keltner
You Don’t Have To Mean It
Oh oh oh
You don't, you don't have to mean it
You just got to say it anyway
I just need to hear those words for me
Baby, baby, baby
You don't have to say too much
Baby, I wouldn't even touch you anyway
I just want to hear you say to me
(Sweet lies) Baby, baby
Dripping from your lips, ooh yeah
(Sweet sighs) Say to me
Come on and play, play with me, baby, mm-mm
(You don't, you don't) No, you don't have to mean it (You don't have to mean it)
You've just got to say it to me, baby
And whisper, whisper, whisper in my ear (I don't believe)
Baby, baby, baby, baby, yeah
(I don't believe)
I wouldn't want to use you
Ooh I wouldn't blame you anyway
If you never ever spoke to me (I don't believe)
Mm, just say those little words
Sit on my shoulder like a little bird
Baby, sing those words for me
(Sweet lies) Baby, baby
Dripping from your lips (In the darkness)
(Sweet sighs) Don't make me cry
Baby, baby, baby, you know
You know what I want to hear (Dripping from your lips)
I've got to tell you, baby (Dripping from your lips)
Uh-huh, you don't have to say too much (You don't have to mean it)
Whisper, whisper, baby, baby
I just want to hear you say to me (I don't believe)
Baby, baby, baby, baby, yeah
You don't have to mean it (You don't have to mean it)
Baby, just say it anyway
I just need to hear those words from your sweet lips (I don't believe)
Those sweet lips
(You don't have to mean it)
(You don't have to mean it) Yeah
(I don't believe)
You don't have to shout across the room (You don't have to mean it)
(You don't have to mean it)
Whisper in my ear, baby, yeah (I don't believe)
(You don't have to mean it)
(You don't have to mean it)
Note: Info taken from TIOMS, NZentgraf and the WW-Internet
_______________________________________________________________________________
You Don’t Have To Mean It
Composers: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Recording date: March-July 1997
Recording location: Ocean Way Recording Studios, Los Angeles, USA
Producers: Don Was, Rob Fraboni & The Glimmer Twins
Chief engineers: Rob Fraboni & Dan Bosworth
Release date: 27th September: The Rolling Stones CD ‘Bridges To Babylon’
Label: Rolling Stones Records ?– V 2840, (Virgin)
Line-up:
Lead vocal: Keith Richards
Electric guitars: Keith Richards & Ron Wood
Drums: Charlie Watts
Bass: Darryl Jones
Background vocals: Keith Richards
Background vocals: Bernard Fowler
Background vocals: Blondie Chaplin
Piano: Clinton Clifford
Organ: Clinton Clifford
Saxophone: Joe Sublett
Trumpet: Darrell Leonard
Percussion: Jim Keltner
You Don’t Have To Mean It
Oh oh oh
You don't, you don't have to mean it
You just got to say it anyway
I just need to hear those words for me
Baby, baby, baby
You don't have to say too much
Baby, I wouldn't even touch you anyway
I just want to hear you say to me
(Sweet lies) Baby, baby
Dripping from your lips, ooh yeah
(Sweet sighs) Say to me
Come on and play, play with me, baby, mm-mm
(You don't, you don't) No, you don't have to mean it (You don't have to mean it)
You've just got to say it to me, baby
And whisper, whisper, whisper in my ear (I don't believe)
Baby, baby, baby, baby, yeah
(I don't believe)
I wouldn't want to use you
Ooh I wouldn't blame you anyway
If you never ever spoke to me (I don't believe)
Mm, just say those little words
Sit on my shoulder like a little bird
Baby, sing those words for me
(Sweet lies) Baby, baby
Dripping from your lips (In the darkness)
(Sweet sighs) Don't make me cry
Baby, baby, baby, you know
You know what I want to hear (Dripping from your lips)
I've got to tell you, baby (Dripping from your lips)
Uh-huh, you don't have to say too much (You don't have to mean it)
Whisper, whisper, baby, baby
I just want to hear you say to me (I don't believe)
Baby, baby, baby, baby, yeah
You don't have to mean it (You don't have to mean it)
Baby, just say it anyway
I just need to hear those words from your sweet lips (I don't believe)
Those sweet lips
(You don't have to mean it)
(You don't have to mean it) Yeah
(I don't believe)
You don't have to shout across the room (You don't have to mean it)
(You don't have to mean it)
Whisper in my ear, baby, yeah (I don't believe)
(You don't have to mean it)
(You don't have to mean it)
Note: Info taken from TIOMS, NZentgraf and the WW-Internet
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
TeddyB1018
()
Date: July 18, 2016 09:58
This is one of the Stones tracks from the later period I would not want to be without. Great swaying groove, funny but true lyrics. My favorite KR song off a Stones album this century.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
runrudolph
()
Date: July 18, 2016 10:20
Yeah, totally agree with Teddy. One of my alltime KR greatest songs, together with Run Rudolph Run.
Jeroen
Jeroen
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: July 18, 2016 10:36
Agree. One of a handful of Post-Wyman Stones songs worth listening to twice. Finally the Stones pull off a reggae song with some credibility. Interesting to note Mick Jagger was nowhere near this song.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: July 18, 2016 10:41
I think this is one of Keith's total winners in late era. Apart from his solo albums his Stones contributions have been IMO too many ballads.
What I appreciate and really respect about this production is how much is going on; yet it never feels overcrowded or muddied.
What I appreciate and really respect about this production is how much is going on; yet it never feels overcrowded or muddied.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Come On
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Date: July 18, 2016 10:58
Nice!
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Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: July 18, 2016 11:27
My ring tone is this entire number. Gorgeous! Keith sings it so pretty
"Sit on my shoulder like a little bird"
The story goes that he wrote it in a brothel where he'd gone to spend a few days just to get away :E
"Sit on my shoulder like a little bird"
The story goes that he wrote it in a brothel where he'd gone to spend a few days just to get away :E
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
matxil
()
Date: July 18, 2016 11:30
Very nice, one of their attempts at reggae that works very well.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
latebloomer
()
Date: July 18, 2016 11:44
Quote
with sssoul
My ring tone is this entire number. Gorgeous! Keith sings it so pretty
"Sit on my shoulder like a little bird"
The story goes that he wrote it in a brothel where he'd gone to spend a few days just to get away :E
Yes, he wrote about it in Life. I think he said he went there for...inspiration?
Whatever, doesn't matter, it's one heck of a song.
You know what I want to hear...
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
RockingLonestar
()
Date: July 18, 2016 15:06
Quote
latebloomerQuote
with sssoul
My ring tone is this entire number. Gorgeous! Keith sings it so pretty
"Sit on my shoulder like a little bird"
The story goes that he wrote it in a brothel where he'd gone to spend a few days just to get away :E
Yes, he wrote about it in Life. I think he said he went there for...inspiration?
Whatever, doesn't matter, it's one heck of a song.
You know what I want to hear...
Yes, Keith tells in his book LIFE that he was inspired in a Jamaican brothel.
And he dindn´t even touched one of the pretty little black girls ;-)
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
MingSubu
()
Date: July 18, 2016 15:11
Fantastic track!
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Voodookitten76
()
Date: July 18, 2016 15:18
One of my favorite Keith songs. Put it on in the car all the time.
It is interesting that Mick isn't on this track, and I wonder if Keith isn't addressing Mick here, like, "C'mon, just tell me we're still best friends. You don't have to mean it."
It is interesting that Mick isn't on this track, and I wonder if Keith isn't addressing Mick here, like, "C'mon, just tell me we're still best friends. You don't have to mean it."
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
HMS
()
Date: July 18, 2016 15:23
Quote
RockingLonestar
And he dindn´t even touched one of the pretty little black girls ;-)
Of course he did not. He´s married.
The song is a highlight on B2B, one of their most uneven albums ever. One of Keith´s nicest reggae attempts. Sooner or later GasLightStreet will come by and tell us that the song isn´t reggae but to me it is, it has a warm and sunny island-feeling. Best Keith-song on the album, no doubt. His next solo-album - which will be released in 2036 - should be a reggae-album.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: July 18, 2016 17:37
Quote
MingSubu
Fantastic track!
Definitely! I'm surprised by the great feedback on this one, it seems to get bashed a lot. Possibly the naysayers haven't gotten around to posting yet.
A great grooving reggae'ish tune, love the horns, and Keith nails the vocals! Love the "Ooohhhh"s in this one.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: July 18, 2016 17:45
Quote
Voodookitten76
One of my favorite Keith songs. Put it on in the car all the time.
It is interesting that Mick isn't on this track, and I wonder if Keith isn't addressing Mick here, like, "C'mon, just tell me we're still best friends. You don't have to mean it."
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
drewmaster
()
Date: July 18, 2016 17:58
Pleasant but quite forgettable. Keith stole his own lyric “Dripping from your lips” from his vastly superior solo track, “Words of Wonder”.
Drew
Drew
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Swayed1967
()
Date: July 18, 2016 18:38
Pretty good. It sounds like a Keith solo effort rather than a Stones song which isn't necessarily a bad thing - the opposite is usually true with Mick - but Boz Scaggs taking the lead for a few verses might've made this something truly memorable. Somebody said Keith nailed the vocals, which is true - he doesn't get any better than this after the voice drop - but he's still not much of a crooner.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: July 18, 2016 19:54
Pleasant enough Keith track and a decent foray into reggae - indeed could have/should have been on a Keith solo album.
Charlie's drumming is a bit too up front and lacking vibe which makes the tune a bit generic and sterile. Partial production problem, but also the way he plays it.
Too much 'oom-pah' whereas he could have reversed the beat, maybe slowed it down, and added a few little fills in between would have helped.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Charlie's drumming is a bit too up front and lacking vibe which makes the tune a bit generic and sterile. Partial production problem, but also the way he plays it.
Too much 'oom-pah' whereas he could have reversed the beat, maybe slowed it down, and added a few little fills in between would have helped.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: July 18, 2016 21:33
Quote
Hairball
Charlie's drumming is a bit too up front and lacking vibe which makes the tune a bit generic and sterile. Partial production problem, but also the way he plays it.
Too much 'oom-pah' whereas he could have reversed the beat, maybe slowed it down, and added a few little fills in between would have helped.
Jeez, talk about nitpicking. This is a drummer (with Wyman) who artfully adapted to a multitude of styles from blues to psychedelia to disco.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: July 18, 2016 21:37
Lovely song. However, the production - as with many B2B tracks - is a bit sterile.
Just love those horns and Keith's vocals. There are less prominent guitars and more straightforward drums than on other Stones reggae tracks here.
Just love those horns and Keith's vocals. There are less prominent guitars and more straightforward drums than on other Stones reggae tracks here.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: July 18, 2016 21:58
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Lovely song. However, the production - as with many B2B tracks - is a bit sterile.
Just love those horns and Keith's vocals. There are less prominent guitars and more straightforward drums than on other Stones reggae tracks here.
What I like about B2B is the production, they've certainly had more sterile releases.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Moonshine
()
Date: July 18, 2016 23:17
Real fun track but it ain't no How Can I Stop.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: July 19, 2016 00:30
Quote
MaindefenderQuote
DandelionPowderman
Lovely song. However, the production - as with many B2B tracks - is a bit sterile.
Just love those horns and Keith's vocals. There are less prominent guitars and more straightforward drums than on other Stones reggae tracks here.
What I like about B2B is the production, they've certainly had more sterile releases.
Tracks like How Can I Stop, Lowdown and Thief In The Night sound excellent, while many other tracks lack warmth, imo. There is no "one production" of this album, there is several - hence many tracks have a different sound.
Production techniques and arrangement choices are at times interesting on B2B, imo, but the cohesive sound is not there.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
buttons67
()
Date: July 19, 2016 01:07
one of the better of the later period of stones songs.
its a bit different from almost anything they done previously.
its a bit different from almost anything they done previously.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: July 19, 2016 01:19
Quote
24FPSQuote
Hairball
Charlie's drumming is a bit too up front and lacking vibe which makes the tune a bit generic and sterile. Partial production problem, but also the way he plays it.
Too much 'oom-pah' whereas he could have reversed the beat, maybe slowed it down, and added a few little fills in between would have helped.
Jeez, talk about nitpicking. This is a drummer (with Wyman) who artfully adapted to a multitude of styles from blues to psychedelia to disco.
Yeah I love and appreciate Charlie - no need to be condescending and preach about him to me.
But since people have been labeling this a 'reggae' song, the only thing that prevents this from being a truly great reggae song is probably the drumming IMO.
Bad production and a drum beat that sounds like a drum machine. He's played better on other Stones reggae tunes, i.e. Too Rude and Cherry Oh Baby.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: July 19, 2016 02:32
Too Rude is not Charlie, but I agree, Hairball.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: July 19, 2016 02:46
Ahhh, thanks Dandelion - just goes to show you can't believe everything on the internet (in this case Kenos page)
And who would that drumming on Too Rude? Looking at Dirty Work on wiki (another reliable source haha), and all I can find is:
"Charlie Watts' involvement in the recording sessions was also limited", & " Steve Jordan and Anton Fig play drums on some tracks"...no other details given.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
And who would that drumming on Too Rude? Looking at Dirty Work on wiki (another reliable source haha), and all I can find is:
"Charlie Watts' involvement in the recording sessions was also limited", & " Steve Jordan and Anton Fig play drums on some tracks"...no other details given.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 19, 2016 18:07
Ronnie Wood is on drums for Too Rude and Sleep Tonight.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 19, 2016 18:08
Quote
HMSQuote
RockingLonestar
And he dindn´t even touched one of the pretty little black girls ;-)
Of course he did not. He´s married.
The song is a highlight on B2B, one of their most uneven albums ever. One of Keith´s nicest reggae attempts. Sooner or later GasLightStreet will come by and tell us that the song isn´t reggae but to me it is, it has a warm and sunny island-feeling. Best Keith-song on the album, no doubt. His next solo-album - which will be released in 2036 - should be a reggae-album.
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha. Well, for one thing, You Don't Have To Mean It is more reggae than DIRTY WORK is an album.
Re: Track Talk: You Don’t Have To Mean It
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 19, 2016 18:09
Great tune. Keith's 3 on BRIDGES make the album for me. Great tune with an obvious nod to the Caribbean with a hint of Motown under it.
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