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If so, it must be the fastest blues ever
You can use the name blues but then it is a full speed rhythm and blues song.........
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It's got three chords - A, G and D.
It's exactly tracks like these (and Just Want To See His Face) that make me love EOMS as the best work they've ever done
it also reminds me of Shake your hips which has the same kind of linear construction.
You forgot Shake Your Hips, which has one chord only...
Seriously, most of rock and blues songs don't have many chords in them. Are Mannish Boy and Little Red Rooster weak songs in your opinion?
Thanks swiss. Not sure about who wrote the lyrics. I was wrong about the words for Torn & Frayed apparently which I thought were by Mick. That harp blowing sure is hot though.
No, it hasn't, although there is a sax riff in there playing even more than three notes. Not 12 bars, not three chords.
The guitar(s) sometimes (only a few times) riff c and d, but not playing chords.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-23 13:43 by DandelionPowderman.
What other songs do you reckon are 'subpar' on Exile then HMS?
Shake Your Hips
Casino Boogie
Sweet Black Angel
Ventilator Blues
I Just Want To See His Face
Tumbling Dice
Turd On The Run
Kind of what I also thought the time it was released...I have changed my opinion on a couple of these songs since then...
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Perfectly described! Love the bass in this one.
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Track Talk: Turd On The Run
Posted by:
NICOS
()
Date: November 23, 2015 11:50
Comments, input and alterations are very welcome!
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Turd On The Run
Written by: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Recording date: December 1971-March 1972 Recording location: Sunset Sound Studios, Los Angeles, USA
The basic tracks of IORR record were recorded in Villefranche, France or in London, Olympic Sound Studios
Lead vocals: Mick Jagger
Electric guitars: Keith Richards
Background vocals: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Harmonica: Mick Jagger
Drums: Charlie Watts
Upright acoustic bass: Bill Plummer
Piano: Nicky Hopkins
Maracas: Bobby Keys
Turd On The Run
Grabbed hold of your coat tail but it come off in my hand
I reached for your lapel but it weren't sewn on so grand
Begged, promised anything if only you would stay
Well I lost a lot of love over you
Yeah
That's right
Fell down to my knees and I hung on to your pants
But you just kept on running while they ripped off in my hands
Diamond ring, vaseline, you give me disease
Well I lost a lot of love over you
Ooh!
Ah baby
All right
Ooooooh...
I boogied in the ballroom, I boogied in the dark
Tie your hands, tie your feet, throw you to the shark
Make you sweat, make you scream, make you wish you'd never been
I lost a lot of love over you
Ow, I tell you
Oooooh...Oooooh
Oooooow baby
(Added some oooooo to the Ooh’s and Oow’s)
Producer: Jimmy Miller
Chief engineers: Andy Johns & Joe Zagarino
First released on: Exile On Main Street (LP)
Label: Rolling Stones Records (WEA)
U.S. Release date: May 22, 1972 COC 2-2900
U.K. Release date: May 26, 1972 COC 69100
Note: Info taken from TIOMS and NZentgraf
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-30 11:04 by NICOS.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Turd On The Run
Written by: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Recording date: December 1971-March 1972 Recording location: Sunset Sound Studios, Los Angeles, USA
The basic tracks of IORR record were recorded in Villefranche, France or in London, Olympic Sound Studios
Lead vocals: Mick Jagger
Electric guitars: Keith Richards
Background vocals: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
Harmonica: Mick Jagger
Drums: Charlie Watts
Upright acoustic bass: Bill Plummer
Piano: Nicky Hopkins
Maracas: Bobby Keys
Turd On The Run
Grabbed hold of your coat tail but it come off in my hand
I reached for your lapel but it weren't sewn on so grand
Begged, promised anything if only you would stay
Well I lost a lot of love over you
Yeah
That's right
Fell down to my knees and I hung on to your pants
But you just kept on running while they ripped off in my hands
Diamond ring, vaseline, you give me disease
Well I lost a lot of love over you
Ooh!
Ah baby
All right
Ooooooh...
I boogied in the ballroom, I boogied in the dark
Tie your hands, tie your feet, throw you to the shark
Make you sweat, make you scream, make you wish you'd never been
I lost a lot of love over you
Ow, I tell you
Oooooh...Oooooh
Oooooow baby
(Added some oooooo to the Ooh’s and Oow’s)
Producer: Jimmy Miller
Chief engineers: Andy Johns & Joe Zagarino
First released on: Exile On Main Street (LP)
Label: Rolling Stones Records (WEA)
U.S. Release date: May 22, 1972 COC 2-2900
U.K. Release date: May 26, 1972 COC 69100
Note: Info taken from TIOMS and NZentgraf
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-30 11:04 by NICOS.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 23, 2015 11:54
If there was a need for explaining the word «roll» in rock'n'roll music, this track should be put on. What a lovely, swinging tune! Paired with Rip This Joint, perhaps the purest proof of the Stones at the top of their game, imo.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:03
A true Stones deep cut that has sadly never been played live and has fallen off the radar as a talked about fan favourite (at least on here).
Turd On The Run has Exile On Main Street stamped all over it and to be even more precise, Villefranche-sur-Mer.
One can imagine Nellcote creaking under the strain of having so many guests suddenly descend for the recording sessions and general hangers on. The failing air conditioning already inspired one song - Ventilator Blues - on that wonderful third side (original vinyl) and I can't help but think that dodgy plumbing may have humourously planted the 'log' of an idea for this amusing tale of unrequited love.
The tune feels like it originated from a jam with Keith playing that wonderful speedfreak jive lead lick and the others falling in. Mick's harp playing here is a thing of wonder and brings us close to what the band must have sounded like working up all those fabulous r'n'b and rock'n'roll tunes in their formative years.
Great lyrics too - "I reached for your lapels but they weren't sewn on so grand" and "I boogied in the ballroom, I boogied in the dark Tie your hands, tie your feet, throw you to the shark".
An absolute underrated corker.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-23 12:56 by Silver Dagger.
Turd On The Run has Exile On Main Street stamped all over it and to be even more precise, Villefranche-sur-Mer.
One can imagine Nellcote creaking under the strain of having so many guests suddenly descend for the recording sessions and general hangers on. The failing air conditioning already inspired one song - Ventilator Blues - on that wonderful third side (original vinyl) and I can't help but think that dodgy plumbing may have humourously planted the 'log' of an idea for this amusing tale of unrequited love.
The tune feels like it originated from a jam with Keith playing that wonderful speedfreak jive lead lick and the others falling in. Mick's harp playing here is a thing of wonder and brings us close to what the band must have sounded like working up all those fabulous r'n'b and rock'n'roll tunes in their formative years.
Great lyrics too - "I reached for your lapels but they weren't sewn on so grand" and "I boogied in the ballroom, I boogied in the dark Tie your hands, tie your feet, throw you to the shark".
An absolute underrated corker.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-23 12:56 by Silver Dagger.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Come On
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:08
This is a reasonably decent blues what I remember of it.
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Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:20
Quote
Come On
This is a reasonably decent blues what I remember of it.
If so, it must be the fastest blues ever
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
NICOS
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:22
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Come On
This is a reasonably decent blues what I remember of it.
If so, it must be the fastest blues ever
You can use the name blues but then it is a full speed rhythm and blues song.........
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Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:28
Quote
NICOSQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Come On
This is a reasonably decent blues what I remember of it.
If so, it must be the fastest blues ever
You can use the name blues but then it is a full speed rhythm and blues song.........
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:32
What's the story behind Bill Wyman not being on this track? I think around this time he said he would have joined Steve Stills' Manassas had he been asked.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Tops
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:43
Love Exile
.... but never been a fan of Turd on the run ( or Shake Your Hips .....or Ventilator Blues).
.... but never been a fan of Turd on the run ( or Shake Your Hips .....or Ventilator Blues).
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:49
Great music with very organic lyrics. It's about ALO, isn't it -
the extent of the damage he'd done by bringing in Allen Klein had just recently sunk in.
Lost a lot of love indeed
the extent of the damage he'd done by bringing in Allen Klein had just recently sunk in.
Lost a lot of love indeed
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
jpasc95
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:49
if you consider the high level of quality of Exile album, imo this track and Just wanna see his face are the weakest 2 songs.
A only one chord song can't give a good result.
Maybe it is the reason why they never played it live.
A only one chord song can't give a good result.
Maybe it is the reason why they never played it live.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:59
Quote
jpasc95
if you consider the high level of quality of Exile album, imo this track and Just wanna see his face are the weakest 2 songs.
A only one chord song can't give a good result.
Maybe it is the reason why they never played it live.
It's got three chords - A, G and D.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
exhpart
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:08
Quote
Tops
Love Exile
.... but never been a fan of Turd on the run ( or Shake Your Hips .....or Ventilator Blues).
It's exactly tracks like these (and Just Want To See His Face) that make me love EOMS as the best work they've ever done
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
swiss
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:09
Silver Dagger, So well said (and written, as usual). Another corker of a post!
This is what Lenny Kaye said about it in May 1972 Rolling Stone:
"Turd on the Run," even belying its gimmicky title, is a superb little hustler;
if Keith can be said to have a showpiece on this album, this is it. Taking off
from a jangly 'Maybellene' rhythm guitar, he misses not a flick of the wrist,
sitting behind the force of the instrumental and shoveling it along."
Great example of what Keith has said about Mick's being at his most soulfully honest when playing harp.
My guess is Keith had zero to do with these lyrics. Sounds lyrically like Mick.
- swiss
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-24 03:33 by swiss.
This is what Lenny Kaye said about it in May 1972 Rolling Stone:
"Turd on the Run," even belying its gimmicky title, is a superb little hustler;
if Keith can be said to have a showpiece on this album, this is it. Taking off
from a jangly 'Maybellene' rhythm guitar, he misses not a flick of the wrist,
sitting behind the force of the instrumental and shoveling it along."
Great example of what Keith has said about Mick's being at his most soulfully honest when playing harp.
My guess is Keith had zero to do with these lyrics. Sounds lyrically like Mick.
- swiss
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-24 03:33 by swiss.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
jpasc95
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:12
yes ok but A is the main chord during this song. The bass player stays in this chord.Quote
Silver DaggerQuote
jpasc95
if you consider the high level of quality of Exile album, imo this track and Just wanna see his face are the weakest 2 songs.
A only one chord song can't give a good result.
Maybe it is the reason why they never played it live.
It's got three chords - A, G and D.
it also reminds me of Shake your hips which has the same kind of linear construction.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:19
Quote
jpasc95
if you consider the high level of quality of Exile album, imo this track and Just wanna see his face are the weakest 2 songs.
A only one chord song can't give a good result.
Maybe it is the reason why they never played it live.
You forgot Shake Your Hips, which has one chord only...
Seriously, most of rock and blues songs don't have many chords in them. Are Mannish Boy and Little Red Rooster weak songs in your opinion?
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
jpasc95
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:28
Shake your hips has also 3 chords : A, C and D
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:41
Quote
swiss
Silver Dagger, So well said (and written, as usual). Another corker of a post!
This is what Lenny Kaye said about it in Rolling Stone:
"Turd on the Run," even belying its gimmicky title, is a superb little hustler;
if Keith can be said to have a showpiece on this album, this is it. Taking off
from a jangly 'Maybellene' rhythm guitar, he misses not a flick of the wrist,
sitting behind the force of the instrumental and shoveling it along."
Great example of what Keith has said about Mick's being at his most soulfully honest when playing harp.
My guess is Keith had zero to do with these lyrics. Sounds lyrically like Mick.
- swiss
Thanks swiss. Not sure about who wrote the lyrics. I was wrong about the words for Torn & Frayed apparently which I thought were by Mick. That harp blowing sure is hot though.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:42
Quote
jpasc95
Shake your hips has also 3 chords : A, C and D
No, it hasn't, although there is a sax riff in there playing even more than three notes. Not 12 bars, not three chords.
The guitar(s) sometimes (only a few times) riff c and d, but not playing chords.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-23 13:43 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:42
One of the best tracks from Exile. Stones at their best ever.
Although it has Nellcote stamped all over it, it was most probably recorded completely at Sunset in LA.
Mathijs
Although it has Nellcote stamped all over it, it was most probably recorded completely at Sunset in LA.
Mathijs
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
HMS
()
Date: November 23, 2015 13:57
Usually a Stones-song starts playing in my head only by reading the title. This time the player in my head remained silent. That happens very very rarely.
After listening to the CD I know why: The song is totally uninteresting, I wouldnt say it is crap, but then again not far from it... A "filler´s filler" at best. Musically almost absolutely nothing is happening here, all the same from start to finsih... Must have took half a minute to "compose" it.
One of their most forgettale songs on one of their most overrated albums, imo. (Exile is an album half filled with demo-recordings of subpar songs, that shouldnt be on any Stones-album)
Any track on Dirty Work and/or Undercover is better by far. I understand completely that the Stones never played this song live. They dont want the audience to throw bottles at them. They prefer bras.
After listening to the CD I know why: The song is totally uninteresting, I wouldnt say it is crap, but then again not far from it... A "filler´s filler" at best. Musically almost absolutely nothing is happening here, all the same from start to finsih... Must have took half a minute to "compose" it.
One of their most forgettale songs on one of their most overrated albums, imo. (Exile is an album half filled with demo-recordings of subpar songs, that shouldnt be on any Stones-album)
Any track on Dirty Work and/or Undercover is better by far. I understand completely that the Stones never played this song live. They dont want the audience to throw bottles at them. They prefer bras.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: November 23, 2015 14:01
Quote
HMS
Usually a Stones-song starts playing in my head only by reading the title. This time the player in my head remained silent. That happens very very rarely.
After listening to the CD I know why: The song is totally uninteresting, I wouldnt say it is crap, but then again not far from it... A "filler´s filler" at best. Musically almost absolutely nothing is happening here, all the same from start to finsih... Must have took half a minute to "compose" it.
One of their most forgettale songs on one of their most overrated albums, imo. (Exile is an album half filled with demo-recordings of subpar songs, that shouldnt be on any Stones-album)
What other songs do you reckon are 'subpar' on Exile then HMS?
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
matxil
()
Date: November 23, 2015 14:13
On first listening, there's nothing special to this song, it could easily be mistaken as filler. But it's not. I don't know exactly where the secret lies, but certainly it's for a large part due to the rhythm guitar, the murky production, and of course Mick Jagger who sounds great on the entire album. When the Stones are good (as they were during EOMS), they can make any song lift up and make it groove like hell. It's just as vitally important to the album as any other song on it.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
HMS
()
Date: November 23, 2015 14:20
Quote
Silver DaggerQuote
HMS
Usually a Stones-song starts playing in my head only by reading the title. This time the player in my head remained silent. That happens very very rarely.
After listening to the CD I know why: The song is totally uninteresting, I wouldnt say it is crap, but then again not far from it... A "filler´s filler" at best. Musically almost absolutely nothing is happening here, all the same from start to finsih... Must have took half a minute to "compose" it.
One of their most forgettale songs on one of their most overrated albums, imo. (Exile is an album half filled with demo-recordings of subpar songs, that shouldnt be on any Stones-album)
What other songs do you reckon are 'subpar' on Exile then HMS?
Shake Your Hips
Casino Boogie
Sweet Black Angel
Ventilator Blues
I Just Want To See His Face
Tumbling Dice
Turd On The Run
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Come On
()
Date: November 23, 2015 14:59
Quote
HMSQuote
Silver DaggerQuote
HMS
Usually a Stones-song starts playing in my head only by reading the title. This time the player in my head remained silent. That happens very very rarely.
After listening to the CD I know why: The song is totally uninteresting, I wouldnt say it is crap, but then again not far from it... A "filler´s filler" at best. Musically almost absolutely nothing is happening here, all the same from start to finsih... Must have took half a minute to "compose" it.
One of their most forgettale songs on one of their most overrated albums, imo. (Exile is an album half filled with demo-recordings of subpar songs, that shouldnt be on any Stones-album)
What other songs do you reckon are 'subpar' on Exile then HMS?
Shake Your Hips
Casino Boogie
Sweet Black Angel
Ventilator Blues
I Just Want To See His Face
Tumbling Dice
Turd On The Run
Kind of what I also thought the time it was released...I have changed my opinion on a couple of these songs since then...
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Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: November 23, 2015 16:35
Quote
DandelionPowderman
... a lovely, swinging tune! ...
Perfectly described! Love the bass in this one.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: November 23, 2015 17:45
Smokin' HOT tune!
Part of the master puzzle that makes Exile great, but also stand firmly on it's own as a great Stones track in every way -
(vocals, lyrics, guitars, harp, instrumentation, production, everything).
Words of advice to those who don't like it: TURN THAT F*KER UP LOUD!!!.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Part of the master puzzle that makes Exile great, but also stand firmly on it's own as a great Stones track in every way -
(vocals, lyrics, guitars, harp, instrumentation, production, everything).
Words of advice to those who don't like it: TURN THAT F*KER UP LOUD!!!.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
DaveG
()
Date: November 23, 2015 17:48
I first heard this song as I walked into a "head shop/record store" in Corvallis, Oregon in 1972. It was being played through the store's speakers and I was imnediately a fan. I love the subtle harp, although maybe it is too subtle, but it is so bluesy/soulful. I have always wanted the Stones to play it live and let Mick shine on the harp.
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Turner68
()
Date: November 23, 2015 18:47
Quote
exhpartQuote
Tops
Love Exile
.... but never been a fan of Turd on the run ( or Shake Your Hips .....or Ventilator Blues).
It's exactly tracks like these (and Just Want To See His Face) that make me love EOMS as the best work they've ever done
Re: Track Talk: Turd On The Run (New)
Posted by:
Moonshine
()
Date: November 23, 2015 19:53
Maybe it's not one of the albums major songs but I still absolutely love it. Great guitar, harp and down in the mix vocals. Again the lyrics are brilliantly hard to fathom adding to the fun. Tracks like this is why Exile's the greatest album of all time, plus a million other reasons
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