I have not anything against Some Girls. I just missed a star. Anyway it is an important album for the Stones but it is not one of my favourite. I prefer listen to some tracks from this album live than in studio. So nothing so special in my ratings. I prefer other albums undercover and black and blue for example.



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Sure...why the hell not:

The Rolling Stones (UK) ****
England’s Newest Hit Makers (US) ****
12X5 (US) ***1/2
The Rolling Stones No. 2 (UK) ***1/2
The Rolling Stones, Now! (US) ***1/2
December’s Children (US) ***
Out Of Our Heads (US) ****
Out Of Our Heads (UK) ****
Aftermath (US) ****1/2
Aftermath (UK) ****1/2
Between The Buttons (UK) ****
Between The Buttons (US) ****
Their Satanic Majesties Request ***1/2
Beggars Banquet *****
Let It Bleed *****
Sticky Fingers *****
Exile On Main Street *****
Goats Head Soup ***
It’s Only Rock’N’Roll ****
Black And Blue ****
Some Girls ****
Emotional Rescue ***1/2
Tattoo You *****
Undercover ****1/2
Dirty Work
Steel Wheels ***1/2
Voodoo Lounge ***1/2
Stripped ****
Bridges To Babylon ***
A Bigger Bang ****

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Voodoo Lounge disqualified: no wyman
Stripped disqualified: no wyman
Bridges To Babylon disqualified: no wyman
A Bigger Bang disqualified: no wyman

By that logic, one could disqualify all albums recorded after the departure of Brian Jones from the band.

ALL albums should be disqualified because Ian Stewart is not listed as regular member! No Stu, no Stones, it´s that easy! Disqualify all of them, I say!

Come on you cant be seriously disqualifying albums because the bass player left the band. Wyman was not the most important part of the Stones after all. I wonder if there are people who disquaify all post-Moon Who albums.

If we accept that Beggars banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky FIngers and Exile are the peak of their work and henceforth deservedly get 5 stars...but then allocate 3 stars to ABB it indicates that there is only a two star difference between the two cohorts.

Now, I'm no lover of ABB, I admit that, but surely non of you could argue that ABB is two stars away from let's say Exile! Maybe 5 stars as a top score isn't high enough, maybe it should be 10 stars and then leave ABB at 3?

The Rolling Stones (UK) --- 5
England’s Newest Hit Makers (US) --- 5
12X5 (US) --- 5
The Rolling Stones No. 2 (UK) --- 4
The Rolling Stones, Now! (US) --- 4
December’s Children (US) --- 4
Out Of Our Heads (US) --- 4
Out Of Our Heads (UK) --- 4
Aftermath (US) --- 3+1/2
Aftermath (UK) --- 3+1/2
Between The Buttons (UK) --- 1
Between The Buttons (US) --- 1
Their Satanic Majesties Request --- 2+1/2
Beggars Banquet --- 3+1/2
Let It Bleed --- 5
Sticky Fingers --- 5
Exile On Main Street --- 3+1/2
Goats Head Soup --- 2
It’s Only Rock’N’Roll --- 3
Black And Blue --- 4
Some Girls --- 2+1/2
Emotional Rescue --- 3+/2
Tattoo You --- 3+1/2
Undercover --- 5
Dirty Work --- 5
Steel Wheels --- 2
Voodoo Lounge --- 3
Stripped --- 3+1/2
Bridges To Babylon --- 2+1/2
A Bigger Bang --- 3 +1/2

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If we accept that Beggars banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky FIngers and Exile are the peak of their work and henceforth deservedly get 5 stars...but then allocate 3 stars to ABB it indicates that there is only a two star difference between the two cohorts.

Now, I'm no lover of ABB, I admit that, but surely non of you could argue that ABB is two stars away from let's say Exile! Maybe 5 stars as a top score isn't high enough, maybe it should be 10 stars and then leave ABB at 3?

henceforth and from this day you will be officially known as "grumbling mice".

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...Dirty Work 1/2...

I'm curious as to why you harbour such an acute dislike for this album.

I find it strange when people feel obligated to loathe something.

There is no "obligation" to dislike, or like, anything. It is personal taste. YOU may like it. Good. I don't. My opinion is equally as good as yours, or anyone's. No obligation. Just opinion

Rod

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...Dirty Work 1/2...

I'm curious as to why you harbour such an acute dislike for this album.

I find it strange when people feel obligated to loathe something.

Because it sucks. There's no obligation. That's just it. Why is it so difficult for some people, like you, to understand how a piece of shit is a piece of shit?

Suggesting that Dirty Work is one sixth as good as Steel Wheels is risible.

Says YOU. In my OPINION it is far worse than one sixth as good as Steel Wheels. But both your and my opinion are equally valid. None of our opinions can be based on fact as music taste is not factual. It's personal.

Rod

The Rolling Stones ****
England's Newest Hitmakers ****
12x5 ***
The Rolling Stones No.2 ***
The Rolling Stones, Now! ****
Out Of Our Heads (U.S.) ***
Out Of Our Heads (U.K.) ***
December's Children (And Everybody's) ****
Aftermath (U.S.) ****
Aftermath (U.K.) ****
Between The Buttons (U.S.) ****
Between The Buttons (U.K.) ****
Flowers ****
Their Satanic Majesty's Request **
Beggars Banquet *****
Let It Bleed *****
Sticky Fingers *****
Exile On Main St *****
Goat's Head Soup ***
It's Only Rock N' Roll **
Black & Blue **
Some Girls ****
Emotional Rescue **
Tattoo You ****
Undercover ***
Dirty Work *
Steel Wheels ***
Voodoo Lounge ***
Bridges To Babylon ***
A Bigger Bang ***



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If we accept that Beggars banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky FIngers and Exile are the peak of their work and henceforth deservedly get 5 stars...but then allocate 3 stars to ABB it indicates that there is only a two star difference between the two cohorts.

Now, I'm no lover of ABB, I admit that, but surely non of you could argue that ABB is two stars away from let's say Exile! Maybe 5 stars as a top score isn't high enough, maybe it should be 10 stars and then leave ABB at 3?

henceforth and from this day you will be officially known as "grumbling mice".

Well, it's a ridiculous concept treacle. CLearly the Stones have turned out some absolutely wonderful records and also some dreadful records a 5 star system doesn't work with such a varying output of quality....I'm typing this with a smile by the way!

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Sure...why the hell not:

Undercover ****1/2
Dirty Work
Steel Wheels ***1/2

HA HA! You rated it 1/2 less than I did!

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Sure...why the hell not:

Undercover ****1/2
Dirty Work
Steel Wheels ***1/2

HA HA! You rated it 1/2 less than I did!

I didn't want you to out do me!

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If we accept that Beggars banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky FIngers and Exile are the peak of their work and henceforth deservedly get 5 stars...but then allocate 3 stars to ABB it indicates that there is only a two star difference between the two cohorts.

Now, I'm no lover of ABB, I admit that, but surely non of you could argue that ABB is two stars away from let's say Exile! Maybe 5 stars as a top score isn't high enough, maybe it should be 10 stars and then leave ABB at 3?

henceforth and from this day you will be officially known as "grumbling mice".

Well, it's a ridiculous concept treacle. CLearly the Stones have turned out some absolutely wonderful records and also some dreadful records a 5 star system doesn't work with such a varying output of quality....I'm typing this with a smile by the way!

Well, on that note numeric ratings themselves are ridiculous in that they are completely subjective when it comes to art. But we seem to love the simplicity of them.

Perhaps if it was 1-10 instead of 1-5, or 11 numbers - 0-10, it would be easier to articulate the depth of the quality of an album better?

For example, LIB would get 10, SG would get 8, U would get 6, IORR would get 4.5 and DW would get 0.

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Perhaps if it was 1-10 instead of 1-5, or 11 numbers - 0-10, it would be easier to articulate the depth of the quality of an album better?

For example, LIB would get 10, SG would get 8, U would get 6, IORR would get 4.5 and DW would get 0.

Isn't that just the equivalent of a 'stock split'?

If so, I'm shorting DW.

There must be a way to humiliate Dirty Work even more than just giving it a "zero".

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Perhaps if it was 1-10 instead of 1-5, or 11 numbers - 0-10, it would be easier to articulate the depth of the quality of an album better?

For example, LIB would get 10, SG would get 8, U would get 6, IORR would get 4.5 and DW would get 0.

Rating a work of art as worthless is illogical, as all works of art possess inherent value.

.....

Olly.

I love them all but I have to say that Black and Blue is a great party album. Great driving disc too!

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Dandelion - am I reading you right - TY and ER 5 stars and BB and LIB only 4?

Nothing else to say, except WOW.

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...Dirty Work 1/2...

I'm curious as to why you harbour such an acute dislike for this album.

I find it strange when people feel obligated to loathe something.

Because it sucks. There's no obligation. That's just it. Why is it so difficult for some people, like you, to understand how a piece of shit is a piece of shit?

And far more strange that one makes an assumption that those that dislike it are doing so out of an obligation. I feel obligated to dislike brussel sprouts, LOL.

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Rating a work of art as worthless is illogical, as all works of art possess inherent value.

To say all works of art possess inherent value is far more illogical.

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Now on to the rankings ...
Just rating as US, ratings would be same for UK versions anyway.

England’s Newest Hit Makers ****
12x5 ****
The Rolling Stones, Now! **** 
December’s Children ***
Out Of Our Heads ****
Aftermath ****
Between The Buttons **** 
Their Satanic Majesties Request ***
Beggars Banquet ***** 
Let It Bleed ***** 
Sticky Fingers ***** 
Exile On Main Street ***** 
Goats Head Soup **** 
It’s Only Rock’N’Roll ****
Black And Blue **** 
Some Girls ***** 
Emotional Rescue ****
Tattoo You ****
Undercover *** 
Dirty Work *
Steel Wheels ***
Voodoo Lounge ****
Stripped **
Bridges To Babylon **** 
A Bigger Bang ****

The Rolling Stones (UK) *****
The Rolling Stones No. 2 (UK) ***1/2
Out Of Our Heads (UK) ***1/2
Aftermath (UK) *****
Between The Buttons (UK)
Their Satanic Majesties Req. *1/2
Beggars Banquet *****
Let It Bleed *****
Sticky Fingers *****
Exile On Main Street *****
Goats Head Soup **1/2
It’s Only Rock’N’Roll **
Black And Blue **1/2
Some Girls *****
Emotional Rescue **1/2
Tattoo You *****
Undercover **1/2
Dirty Work 1/2
Steel Wheels ***1/2
Voodoo Lounge *1/2
Stripped **
Bridges To Babylon ***1/2
A Bigger Bang *



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Perhaps if it was 1-10 instead of 1-5, or 11 numbers - 0-10, it would be easier to articulate the depth of the quality of an album better?

For example, LIB would get 10, SG would get 8, U would get 6, IORR would get 4.5 and DW would get 0.

at what point would Dirty Work score 1 point? On scale of 1-20? 1-50? 1-100?

The Rolling Stones (UK) ****
The Rolling Stones No. 2 (UK) ***1/2
Out Of Our Heads (UK) ****
Aftermath (UK) ****
Between The Buttons (UK) ***
Their Satanic Majesties Req. **
Beggars Banquet *****
Let It Bleed *****
Sticky Fingers *****
Exile On Main Street **** 1/2
Goats Head Soup ****
It’s Only Rock’N’Roll **1/2
Black And Blue *** 1/2
Some Girls ****
Emotional Rescue **1/2
Tattoo You ****
Undercover ***1/2
Dirty Work *
Steel Wheels ***
Voodoo Lounge ***
Bridges To Babylon ***1/2
A Bigger Bang ***1/2

Rod



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Perhaps if it was 1-10 instead of 1-5, or 11 numbers - 0-10, it would be easier to articulate the depth of the quality of an album better?

For example, LIB would get 10, SG would get 8, U would get 6, IORR would get 4.5 and DW would get 0.

at what point would Dirty Work score 1 point? On scale of 1-20? 1-50? 1-100?

This is the problem with rating a piece of art '0'.

0 is always 0, regardless of the scale on which that 0 exists.

GLS erroneously views Dirty Work as worthless, so would rate it 0/10, 0/100, 0/1000, etc. ad infinitum.

.....

Olly.



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The Rolling Stones (UK) ****
The Rolling Stones No. 2 (UK) ***1/2
Out Of Our Heads (UK) ****
Aftermath (UK) ****
Between The Buttons (UK) ***
Their Satanic Majesties Req. **
Beggars Banquet *****
Let It Bleed *****
Sticky Fingers *****
Exile On Main Street **** 1/2
Goats Head Soup ****
It’s Only Rock’N’Roll *
Black And Blue *** 1/2
Some Girls ****
Emotional Rescue **1/2
Tattoo You ****
Undercover ***1/2
Dirty Work *
Steel Wheels ***
Voodoo Lounge ***
Bridges To Babylon ***1/2
A Bigger Bang ***1/2

I can only assume you are suffering some sort of dementia rating iorr the same as dirty work...with one star.

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The Rolling Stones (UK) ****
The Rolling Stones No. 2 (UK) ***1/2
Out Of Our Heads (UK) ****
Aftermath (UK) ****
Between The Buttons (UK) ***
Their Satanic Majesties Req. **
Beggars Banquet *****
Let It Bleed *****
Sticky Fingers *****
Exile On Main Street **** 1/2
Goats Head Soup ****
It’s Only Rock’N’Roll *
Black And Blue *** 1/2
Some Girls ****
Emotional Rescue **1/2
Tattoo You ****
Undercover ***1/2
Dirty Work *
Steel Wheels ***
Voodoo Lounge ***
Bridges To Babylon ***1/2
A Bigger Bang ***1/2

I can only assume you are suffering some sort of dementia rating iorr the same as dirty work...with one star.

Dementia? No! Fat bloody fingers! IORR should have **1/2 !

Rod

The definitive ratings, out of 10, of the UK studio albums:

The Rolling Stones - 6
The Rolling Stones No. 2 - 5
Out Of Our Heads - 6
Aftermath - 5
Between The Buttons - 5
Their Satanic Majesties Request - 2
Beggars Banquet - 8
Let It Bleed - 8
Sticky Fingers - 7
Exile On Main St - 9
Goats Head Soup - 3
It's Only Rock 'n Roll - 2
Black and Blue - 6
Some Girls - 5
Emotional Rescue - 7
Tattoo You - 8
Undercover - 3
Dirty Work - 4
Steel Wheels - 4
Voodoo Lounge - 5
Bridges to Babylon - 5
A Bigger Bang - 7

.....

Olly.

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Perhaps if it was 1-10 instead of 1-5, or 11 numbers - 0-10, it would be easier to articulate the depth of the quality of an album better?

For example, LIB would get 10, SG would get 8, U would get 6, IORR would get 4.5 and DW would get 0.

at what point would Dirty Work score 1 point? On scale of 1-20? 1-50? 1-100?

This is the problem with rating a piece of art '0'.

0 is always 0, regardless of the scale on which that 0 exists.

GLS erroneously views Dirty Work as worthless, so would rate it 0/10, 0/100, 0/1000, etc. ad infinitum.

That's not at all true. Let's say his score
Was 0.4 out of 10 (rounded down to 0 of course).
On a scale of 100 then Dirty work would be a 4.
The scale is in integers you see.

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That's not at all true. Let's say his score
Was 0.4 out of 10 (rounded down to 0 of course).
On a scale of 100 then Dirty work would be a 4.
The scale is in integers you see.

GLS's score wasn't 0.4, though, it was 0. Erroneous to assume it's been 'rounded down'.

.....

Olly.

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The definitive ratings, out of 10, of the UK studio albums:

The Rolling Stones - 6
The Rolling Stones No. 2 - 5
Out Of Our Heads - 6
Aftermath - 5
Between The Buttons - 5
Their Satanic Majesties Request - 2
Beggars Banquet - 8
Let It Bleed - 8
Sticky Fingers - 7
Exile On Main St - 9
Goats Head Soup - 3
It's Only Rock 'n Roll - 2
Black and Blue - 6
Some Girls - 5
Emotional Rescue - 7
Tattoo You - 8
Undercover - 3
Dirty Work - 4
Steel Wheels - 4
Voodoo Lounge - 5
Bridges to Babylon - 5
A Bigger Bang - 7

Only four great albums?

Even Pink Floyd has more than four great albums...



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Only four great albums?

Even Pink Floyd has more than four great albums...

So you define a 'great album' as scoring 8 or more out of 10? Relative definition, of course, but fair enough.

I was thinking of comparing the Stones albums in relation to each other, as opposed to any exterior metric.

I could easily add one to each of the ratings, as it would make little difference to the comparitive score of one album in relation to another.

Exile is ranked the highest, and I'm loathe to award any album 10/10.

.....

Olly.