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The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: MicKeith81 ()
Date: July 31, 2015 19:25

is Ray Davies a better componser than Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
is Dave Davies better lead guitar than Mick Taylor and Roon Wood
is Mick Avory better than Charlie Watts
is Pete Quaife better than Bill Wyman
is Ray Davies better guitar player than Keith Richards

is Give the people what they want record better than tattoo you?

are The Kinks more talented than the Stones

did they just have bad luck? The Kinks

are the Stones more charismatics than The Kinks?

is Stones logo better than Kinks logo?

were The Kinks more innovative than The Rolling Stones

was the Stones´s marketing strategy better than Kinks´s marketing strategy??

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: July 31, 2015 19:41

Rolling Stones KO early in the first round!

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: timmyj3 ()
Date: July 31, 2015 19:52

Stones by a closer margin than many think.

These were my bands growing up in 70's.

Ray is the best songwriter. Stones the best stage act.

The catalogs are closer than most think.

Dave Davies is a better guitarist than Keith and Ronnie. (Not MT though)

Stones rock harder through the years. ( A kinks late 80's arena show was a rocking ton of fun)

Kinks are more artsy.

No one can outlast the Stones (a real part of their legacy).

Tattoo You is a better album on the basis of the anthem "Start Me Up".

The Kinks had bad luck of which they contributed to their issues greatly.

Charlie and Bill are better than Pete and Mick.

I would score this 55-45 Stones.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: July 31, 2015 20:01

is Ray Davies a better componser than Mick Jagger and Keith Richards ...yes

is Dave Davies better lead guitar than Mick Taylor and Roon Wood ... no
is Mick Avory better than Charlie Watts ... no
is Pete Quaife better than Bill Wyman ... no
is Ray Davies better guitar player than Keith Richards ...no

is Give the people what they want record better than tattoo you? ... perhaps

are The Kinks more talented than the Stones ....more? no

did they just have bad luck? The Kinks ... perhaps

are the Stones more charismatics than The Kinks? ... no

is Stones logo better than Kinks logo? ... yes

were The Kinks more innovative than The Rolling Stones? ... at certain points in their career

was the Stones´s marketing strategy better than Kinks´s marketing strategy?? ...yes



....the opinion expressed by bluzdude do not necessarily represent the opinions of this forum...grinning smiley



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Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: July 31, 2015 20:17

I love the kinks...but stop the insanity.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: July 31, 2015 20:19

Quote
timmyj3
Stones by a closer margin than many think.

Thats the correct answer.

Its obviously the Stones, but The Kinks are far closer to the Stones greatness than many think. They didn't have a bad album for like a decade, and they were putting out like two records a year at that point. Its pointless to compare the two, but The Kinks are much better and influential than people give them credit for. Luckily, people like the Stones already know that.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: 2000man ()
Date: July 31, 2015 20:30

The Stones of course

A fairer fight would be The Kinks vs The Who

I'll take The Kinks in that one

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Stones50 ()
Date: July 31, 2015 20:30

Quote
MicKeith81
is Ray Davies a better componser than Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
is Dave Davies better lead guitar than Mick Taylor and Roon Wood
is Mick Avory better than Charlie Watts
is Pete Quaife better than Bill Wyman
is Ray Davies better guitar player than Keith Richards

is Give the people what they want record better than tattoo you?

are The Kinks more talented than the Stones

did they just have bad luck? The Kinks

are the Stones more charismatics than The Kinks?

is Stones logo better than Kinks logo?

were The Kinks more innovative than The Rolling Stones

was the Stones´s marketing strategy better than Kinks´s marketing strategy??
Wow, you wasted a lot of time typing

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Rollin' Stoner ()
Date: July 31, 2015 20:41


Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: DoctorFreddie ()
Date: July 31, 2015 20:49

The Kinks

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: HMS ()
Date: July 31, 2015 20:50

is Ray Davies a better componser than Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
NO

is Dave Davies better lead guitar than Mick Taylor and Roon Wood
NO

is Mick Avory better than Charlie Watts
I DONT KNKOW

is Pete Quaife better than Bill Wyman
I DONT KNOW

is Ray Davies better guitar player than Keith Richards
NO

is Give the people what they want record better than tattoo you?
NO

are The Kinks more talented than the Stones
NO

did they just have bad luck? The Kinks
NO THEIR MUSIC BECAME BORING OVER THE YEARS

are the Stones more charismatics than The Kinks?
YES

is Stones logo better than Kinks logo?
YES

were The Kinks more innovative than The Rolling Stones
YES

was the Stones´s marketing strategy better than Kinks´s marketing strategy??
YES

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: July 31, 2015 22:03

Should I start a Herman's Hermit's versus Rolling Stones thread?

I actually got into the Kinks via Van Halen, as I'm sure a whole younger generation did.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: MicKeith81 ()
Date: July 31, 2015 22:42

SATISFACTION VERSUS YOU REALLYY GOT ME ???????

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: MicKeith81 ()
Date: July 31, 2015 22:53

is Ray Davies a better singer than Mick Jagger ??

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: July 31, 2015 23:00

Dave Davies is not a better guitarist than Mick Taylor or Ronnie Wood but he's a more influential one. Neither of them wrote half of the memorable licks Davies banged out. Thats the truth. You like one band better than the other. So do I. But let's not forget about facts here. The Kinks were a force to be reckoned with that many still don't understand.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: July 31, 2015 23:05

Better Disco song in a nightclub?

Extended Superman versus extended Miss You. Damn that's a tough call

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: nightskyman ()
Date: August 1, 2015 02:18

I don't know for sure how influential Dave Davies was as a guitarist or the Kinks were as a group. I think the Stones overall (with the big singles and albums like Aftermath, Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, EOMS, Some Girls, etc.) had a bigger impact and in 60s, 70s and beyong had more success than the kinks (if that counts for anything...if you love the Kinks than no argument).

So for me not a fair comparison. But I like what the Kinks did and they certainly I'd left their mark on rock n' roll history.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Date: August 1, 2015 08:34

is Ray Davies a better componser than Mick Jagger and Keith Richards yes easily
is Dave Davies better lead guitar than Mick Taylor and Roon Wood better than ron not taylor

is Mick Avory better than Charlie Watts no
is Pete Quaife better than Bill Wyman no
is Ray Davies better guitar player than Keith Richards no

is Give the people what they want record better than tattoo you? No

are The Kinks more talented than the Stones not sure exactly what that means. As far as songwriting yes

did they just have bad luck? The Kinks bad luck how?

are the Stones more charismatics than The Kinks? Yes

is Stones logo better than Kinks logo? Yes

were The Kinks more innovative than The Rolling Stones I'd say even

was the Stones´s marketing strategy better than Kinks´s marketing strategy?? Not getting banned from playing the states is always a better strategy

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: August 1, 2015 09:08

Roon Wood?

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: leteyer ()
Date: August 1, 2015 11:42

So silly...The Kinks fill stadiums all over the world, Davis has written songs globaly known as Satisfaction or Jumping Jack Flash or Start me up or Miss You.
They survived The Beatles, Led Zeppelin,Disco, Punk, Michael Jackson, U2, all modern Pop

Yes, the kinks by a landslide



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Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: August 1, 2015 12:23

stones win 73%-27%

main reason: kinks are disappearing almost entirely from public consciousness, while songs like gimme shelter, satisfaction, and you can't always get what you want are now classics that the entire world knows.

say what you will about the stones, but the band and the songs have staying power.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: HMS ()
Date: August 1, 2015 13:21

The Kinks are long gone, the Stones are here to stay.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: August 1, 2015 16:06

I don't know the Kinks that well. "Lola" is a great song. I strongly dislike "You Really Got Me" and "All Day And All of the Night" and I don't know the rest.
I will check out "Give the people what they want", now.

In any case, they were more of a pop/rock band than a blues-based rock band, I thought, so wouldn't it make more sense to compare them to the Who or the Beatles?

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: August 1, 2015 16:40

> is "Give the people what they want" record better than "tattoo you"?

I just had a listen, and the answer is: NO! (Are you kidding?)

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Date: August 1, 2015 19:03

Quote
matxil
> is "Give the people what they want" record better than "tattoo you"?

I just had a listen, and the answer is: NO! (Are you kidding?)

that's not even close to one of the kinks better albums. It was brought up I guess because of the release year

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Carnaby ()
Date: August 2, 2015 00:27

Apples and oranges.

Ever notice there aren't any photos of the Stones or one of the Stones with the Kinks or Ray Davies back in the British Invasion days? I mean, Ray Davies is the British Brian Wilson. Yet, there are photos of the Stones with just about everyone else on the planet.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Date: August 2, 2015 02:47

They are all great and why compare them? When it comes to bands that got the short of it, The Small Faces are it. They are even more underrated than The Kinks. Pity they couldn't hold it together any longer than they did but their members did go to make some mind-blowing stuff in their own right (Faces and Humble Pie, etc.)

Charles Baudelaire
1821-1867

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: August 2, 2015 18:17

Quote
charlesbaudelaire
They are all great and why compare them? When it comes to bands that got the short of it, The Small Faces are it. They are even more underrated than The Kinks. Pity they couldn't hold it together any longer than they did but their members did go to make some mind-blowing stuff in their own right (Faces and Humble Pie, etc.)

You may very well be right. Admittedly I'm not a big Small Faces fan. I think why so many think the Kinks are underrated is because they ARE known and they had hits. They just consistently got the short end of the stick. For example, You Really Got Me is an instantly recognizable song thats in the top 20 of rock songs all time (I would guess). Yet they still don't really get the respect they deserve. Lola and All Day And All Of The Night and a few others are also universally well known, yet the Kinks are never mentioned in that "pantheon of rock". They are typically looked over. To me, the Small Faces never had that. They were extremely talented, but they didn't have the instantly recognizable songs or Ray's genius unique lyrics to really elevate them.

So I see them as more "one of those bands that unfortunately never gets the light shed on them like they should", as opposed to the Kinks who are pretty much equal to the Stones, The Who, The Beatles, Zeppelin, but are frequently not listed as such for a variety of reasons. Just for some reason, the Kinks were "big" without still seeming that "big". Like everyone knows them, but its like their legacy is constantly minimized. The Small Faces are just a really good band people should know more about.

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Date: August 2, 2015 19:19

I would put "Ogden's Nut Gone Flake" easily over anything by The Kinks or The Who or Led Zeppelin. Only the Stones and Beatles bettered them. The Small Faces just didn't produce too many albums.

Charles Baudelaire
1821-1867

Re: The Kinks Versus The Rolling Stones
Posted by: pt99 ()
Date: August 2, 2015 19:20

No



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