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I did not consider any songs that were rotated as warhorses . That excluded let's spend the night together and all down the line.Quote
RollingFreak
Sympathy shouldn't be played every night, and in fact I feel could be dropped permanently. Its a miss way more times than its a hit and I think people would live. Its one of my favorite songs by them and its failed to make an impact either time I've seen them. Completely forgettable. Also its unnecessarily long and just eats up time.
Miss You could very well be not played every night. Yeah, people know it, but they could easily get away with it coming out every third show or so. I've long wanted it to stop being played every show since it was released.
Tumbling Dice I think is fairly boring live. I've never understood why it has to be played every night. I don't hate it, but I don't think it has to be an every nighter. Same with Its Only Rock And Roll IMO, but I know full well its not going anywhere
Otherwise, the other warhorses you listed kind of do have to be played every night. Or at least they are the hits that people want and will wonder why they aren't there. For what its worth, the first show I saw they didn't do Gimme Shelter, YCAGWYW or Happy, so it proves they could all take an off night. But I wouldn't fault them if they kept them in every show from now on. I also agree with the first three New Warhorses you have. I'd love to see the last time as every nighters, but thats kind of a pipe
Other songs I didn't see you mention were Lets Spend The Night Together, All Down The Line and Wild Horses, which I could see being New Warhorses. I think an argument could be made they are big enough that they could be every nighters, or at least rotated in for stuff like Miss You, Tumbling Dice, and Sympathy and people would be fine.
As for songs I WISH they'd play, that one could go on for days. But these are the only real "warhorses" I see. Ones that a case could be made they should be played every night, or more often in terms of the new Warhorses. I've already made the case that pretty much anything could be dropped and people would survive. In fact it would maybe make them even, GASP, come back a second time!
Those tracks though are all on Hot Rocks or Made In The Shade which as of 1975 together formed 3 LPs of the Stones' greatest hits.Quote
josepi
I am confused as to why the following became war horses...
Gimme Shelter
Sympathy For the Devil
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Midnight Rambler
It's Only Rock and Roll
Tumbling Dice
The first four were not singles (flip sides don't count), and the last two did not make the top five (in the USA, anyway). When we bought their albums we didn't repeatedly spin those 5. It's my guess that they became war horses only because the band insists on playing them at (almost) every show.
What pisses me off is songs that charted around the same or maybe even better are never played, most notably Have You Seen Your Mother, 19th NB, Not Fade Away. Heck, even We Love You charted better than IORR in the UK.
I still love this band, and enjoyed the Zip Code tour immensely. But for crying out loud there was not even one song in their catalog that made its debut on this tour. That with hundreds to choose from. It makes my head spin sometimes.
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Turner68
Chuck Berry cover should definitely be considered warhorse status. There is a direct correlation to whether a Chuck Berry tune is on the setlist and the quality of the tour.
if you search setlist.fm it will tell you the most played songs.
according to it, they are:
1 Jumpin' Jack Flash
1112
2 Brown Sugar
1083
3 Honky Tonk Women
1051
4 Tumbling Dice
1029
5 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
862
6 Start Me Up
825
7 It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (But I Like It)
746
Sympathy for the Devil
746
9 You Can't Always Get What You Want
691
10 Miss You
677
11 Midnight Rambler
639
12 Gimme Shelter
591
13 Street Fighting Man
554
14 Happy
504
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josepi
Gimme Shelter
Sympathy For the Devil
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Midnight Rambler
It's Only Rock and Roll
Tumbling Dice
When we bought their albums we didn't repeatedly spin those 5.
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Thrylan
Interesting, but I'm crying BS.......
First, NO WAY have they played SMU over 100 more times than MY. Aside from a few special events(Superbowl) MY has been played every night every tour since 78'- correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, JJF almost 250 more times than Satisfaction. Satisfaction hasn't been featured on every tour, but they played the hell out of it from 65'-68'.....for sure. I need citations and a second credible source Sirs.....
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Thrylan
First, NO WAY have they played SMU over 100 more times than MY. Aside from a few special events(Superbowl) MY has been played every night every tour since 78'- correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thrylan
Also, JJF almost 250 more times than Satisfaction. Satisfaction hasn't been featured on every tour, but they played the hell out of it from 65'-68'.....for sure. I need citations and a second credible source Sirs.....
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Thrylan
So......since 82', they have played SMU 173 more times than MY??? BS! That just doesn't make sense. I see the numbers, however I have questioned the accuracy of that site before- on the subject of set lists. I don't think I need to do much research, I can do math! SMU was played 34 times in the US in 1999, if we assume they played it all all EIGHT..(8), dates in Europe, That stl leaves 131 discrepancy......... I'm not buying. I could be wrong, but if I am, I want a bunch of new boots!
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Thrylan
So that cancels out the 78' touf - they only played SMU 7 times on that one.......
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Thrylan
So......since 82', they have played SMU 173 more times than MY??? BS! That just doesn't make sense. I see the numbers, however I have questioned the accuracy of that site before- on the subject of set lists. I don't think I need to do much research, I can do math! SMU was played 34 times in the US in 1999, if we assume they played it all all EIGHT..(8), dates in Europe, That stl leaves 131 discrepancy......... I'm not buying. I could be wrong, but if I am, I want a bunch of new boots!
You are wrong. In fact, you're inventing things. Like this:Quote
Thrylan
So that cancels out the 78' touf - they only played SMU 7 times on that one.......
They didn't play Start Me Up on the 1978 tour.