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I agree with the comment on Midnight Rambler. I like this version now even more than the much praised Roundhouse version.

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In Glyn Johns' book he says they were going to play Wild Horses but Richards fell asleep while tuning his 12 string, haha. Do you guys think Taylor would have play acoustic, electric, or electric with a slide? Man I would have loved to hear Taylor on Wild Horses, it's perfect for his style.

Glyn Johns had a thick dumb when he wrote that. Pure nonsense of course, like so many quotes from people involved back then.

They DID rehearse Wild Horses, with Richards on 12-string and Taylor on 6-string acoustic. For whatever reason it didn't work. Then, there are statements from several people that Richards turned up at the Marquee totally wasted, and actually crashed on stage during the rehearsal.

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Interesting...where did you hear this? I imagine it was the same instrumentation as Sweet Virginia live, minus the horns and harmonica?

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I agree with the comment on Midnight Rambler. I like this version now even more than the much praised Roundhouse version.

The version on the Marquee release is definitely great.

After reading this review I finally bought Marquee Club on vinyl + DVD (I wasn't too shure about this one because I'm not a big fan of musical DVD's as I watch them only one time usually...).
Packaging looks great on the vinyl sized gatefold, particularly the black and white photos of MJ and KR on the LP sleeve. Most important though, the vinyl sounds very good. Just too bad they didn't put the bonus tracks on it and skipped the booklet which is apparently offered with the CD edition. But just for the excellent sound that's the version to get IMO. And what a great M Taylor guitar solo on Brown Sugar!

Amazon managed to send me the CD/DVD set again! What a buch of idiots! I did exactly what they told me to do

Well, at least the bastards got a heart:

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For me the real treat on this set is Brown Sugar from TOTP, the quality is better than the Marquee footage on my TV...who plays sax on this?

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For me the real treat on this set is Brown Sugar from TOTP, the quality is better than the Marquee footage on my TV...who plays sax on this?

Bobby plays, Trevor Lawrence mimes.

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I Got The Blues - alternate take 2 (step 10) is NEW

Bitch - alternate take 1 (step 11) is the SAME as the TV show version (step 7)

I Got The Blues (track #3) is a hybrid of alternate take 1 (first part) and alternate take 2 (end part)


Bitch tracks #7 and #11/alternate take 1

are identical to my ears. Although different track-lengths due to applause...

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got it today

looking to see if anyone else noticed this too re the same bitch

Bitch tracks #7 and #11/alternate take 1

yes the same

thats why the boot only has one bitch outtake the the release has (2), but really 1

but overall what an upgrade!!! to me sounds better than the new Fonda show

I think this is the poorest of the four SF shows we now have.

But it's enjoyable, even though the sound is a bit muddy and the guitars are dry. A great restoration, though. Not Mick or Keith's proudest moments, imo.

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I think this is the poorest of the four SF shows we now have.

But it's enjoyable, even though the sound is a bit muddy and the guitars are dry. A great restoration, though. Not Mick or Keith's proudest moments, imo.

I beg (of course) to disagree. It's better than Leeds imo, musically and audio wise. Jagger's voice isn't in top form (cough cough), but that makes it authentic. But I know that you don't like gigs when Keith is not dominant or at his best or both.

Meanwhile I find the Marquee Rambler the best of the three. Taylor is playing magically here and the band goes with him.

Hi,
Can you tell me if the DVD and the BR of Marquee 71 are region free "0"?

Thanks

Mick: "I'd like to apologize to Mr. Pendleton also. He didn't hit him hard enough." LOL

Question: is there a photo booklet with the Marquee LP? At my version there isn't, so I'm curious if it is missing, or not.

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Question: is there a photo booklet with the Marquee LP? At my version there isn't, so I'm curious if it is missing, or not.

There was no booklet with my Marquee LP neither. Rather disappointing. Also why not including the blu-ray instead of the standard DVD...

Thanks for your reply and for clearing that up.

Watched it a couple of times now, but there isn't much to like about it. Yes it is nice to see the Stones on stage in 71, but it is just an awful gig. This isn't a testimony the Stones of the early 70's deserve.

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Watched it a couple of times now, but there isn't much to like about it. Yes it is nice to see the Stones on stage in 71, but it is just an awful gig. This isn't a testimony the Stones of the early 70's deserve.

Mathijs

I find it a very fine gig and listen to it often. Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch, Brown Sugar. How can one not love it, being into Stones music? Even Live With Me and Let It Rock are really okay.

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Watched it a couple of times now, but there isn't much to like about it. Yes it is nice to see the Stones on stage in 71, but it is just an awful gig. This isn't a testimony the Stones of the early 70's deserve.

Mathijs

I find it a very fine gig and listen to it often. Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch, Brown Sugar. How can one not love it, being into Stones music? Even Live With Me and Let It Rock are really okay.

I would have killed for stuff like this (many)years ago. In the early 70's a friend of mine had some 8 millimeter reels of the Stones and we'd all gather and watch them, trying to sync the picture with our bootleg recordings. Better late than never and I'm a beggar not a chooser, when it comes to this stuff. Keep 'em coming, guys!

I've been watching MARQUEE '71 now a few times, and I am totally thrilled. It is just the raw power, served without any compromises, what is given us there. The dirty, original rock and rolls smelling strongly. Yes, it surely is not their best gig (more like the worst from '71 I guess), but, once again, my old dictum - the Stones in their peak years couldn't do much (if any) wrong, holds here. Their strenght, breathing of music, determination, vitality and youthful charisma goes beyond mortal technical issues, even that of their most important musician having a bit off day. Once again, I am so stunned and surprised how damn hot the Stones once were. Jeez, I love that observation and feeling!

I admit that I was a bit skeptical when I heard that this item will be released. But, like with LA FRIDAY DVD, the upgrade in quality is such huge one to my crap bootleg versions that it is like seeing and hearing the reality in its full sound and color. This FROM THE VAULTS series is a dream come true.

The setting of this tv special is a bit odd. The band playing in such a small place for so few people sounds nowadays such a dream-like situatian, but seemingly back then, the band does not sound too inspired, quite the opposite: they sound and feel like the place not being their calibre, getting used to play to thousands - sometimes a few hundered of them - cheering people. There was no time for 'nostalgia' for the yet, but more like 'what the hell we are doing in a dumb place like this'. It might be also the amount of cameras making them feeling a bit nervous. One can only think what if we could have get a filmed Roundhouse gig instead...

But it doesn't matter. I love each and every song in the set. And the extras as well. Jagger is so raw, spontaneus and cool as a frontman ever can be. And it is still the Music-Comes-First Jagger. It is fascinating hearing him singing on the edge, not giving his voice a rest. His voice is full of passion. There was no vocal coaches, no sterile professionalism yet. (side note: I guess as a singer 1971 tour might have been his very peak ever; the BBC "Brown Sugar" promo might be his best singular live singing song performance ever).

Then we have the ragged Richards... Despite him having a bad day (seemingly many ways), he still drives the band home, and his playing, no matter its sloppiness, is just so down to earth, soulful and mean. One of those nights when his timings are a bit 'strange', to say it mildly - especially in "Midnight Rambler"- but the result still is fascinating and capturing. A kind of school book example what a great rock and roll playing is like in its best and worst, but in a thoroughly breathing, dangerous form. But stiil:'don't try this at home'... The tone of his guitar is still far from perfect (a bit thin occasionally), but goddamn better than in the crappy bootlegs I had.

Taylor is Taylor... a young guitar god... adding the sound, especially with his fluidy melodic runs, perfectly. This reminds me how much Taylor actually was filling Brian Jones's shoes by adding that feminine, delicated, sensitive flavor and touch to the raw over-all sound of the band. And with a young and vital Keef, having just discovered his signature sound, what a dream team those two yin/yang guitarits were back then!

But it is a dream team altogether - Watts, Wyman, Keyes, Stu, Hopkins, Keyes/Price... they were effectively goings somewhere, redefining their sound from the 'original' 1969 platform. We see the band in process, getting it together, concentrated, to be fly high on American Tour in the following year. The film is a showcase of a new, just achieved sound (but to be gone soon). Not just new STICKY FINGERS material and "Live With Me", but "Satisfaction" as well is a great example of the current sound, using all the resources they now have. I guess I have never been a big fan of the 1971 reading of it, but I need to change my stance now. Without a doubt my favourite version of "Satisfaction" at the moment. The song is a soulish funk piece, a long foreplay, and Keith just teasing us, until revealing a bit of that famous riff in the end of the song... Like a lady I watched the film with commented: 'this music is nothing but sex'....

What a creative bunch they were back then. And looked damn cool... MARQUEE '71 is an important release capturing one significant moment in the story of The World's Greatest Rock'n'Roll Band from the days when still had so much to show and achieve.

Looking for HYDE PARK now - I wish they could also improve the sound from its earlier releases. And I hope they would re-release a sonically upgraded version of LADIES AND GENTLEMEN as well. That important concert film deserves that. MARQUEE shows that it is possible.

- Doxa



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I hope they would re-release a sonically upgraded version of LADIES AND GENTLEMEN as well. That important concert film deserves that. MARQUEE shows that it is possible.

- Doxa

I belive there was quite a lot of remastering being done before L&G was re-released on dvd/blu-ray in 2010. The picture quality is actually great, the audio quality is not. It's too wide and loose, and clearly lacks any punch.

Still, I don't think we will get L&G in better quality than we already have. What they did to improve the quality before the 2010 re-release was probably all they could do.



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I hope they would re-release a sonically upgraded version of LADIES AND GENTLEMEN as well. That important concert film deserves that. MARQUEE shows that it is possible.

- Doxa

I belive there was quite a lot of remastering being done before L&G was re-released on dvd/blu-ray in 2010. The picture quality is actually great, the audio quality is not. It's too wide and loose, and clearly lacks any punch.

Still, I don't think we will get L&G in better quality than we already have. What they did to improve the quality before the 2010 re-release was probably all they could do.

Yeah, I am afraid you might be right. But what is strange is that L&G was supposedly recorded with a rather great technology back then - all that quadrophonic stuff, etc. - but nowadays some older and supposedly worse recorded pieces do actually sound better.

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I hope they would re-release a sonically upgraded version of LADIES AND GENTLEMEN as well. That important concert film deserves that. MARQUEE shows that it is possible.

- Doxa

I belive there was quite a lot of remastering being done before L&G was re-released on dvd/blu-ray in 2010. The picture quality is actually great, the audio quality is not. It's too wide and loose, and clearly lacks any punch.

Still, I don't think we will get L&G in better quality than we already have. What they did to improve the quality before the 2010 re-release was probably all they could do.

I disagree. The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years. I saw the movie in 1974 when it was first released and many times over the years and I will say that the Stones did not really put a lot of work into the 2010 re-release. I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.

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The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.

I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.

Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,

XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!

i only have one gripe , it's to damn short

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The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.

I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.

Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,

XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!

They were talking about the audio quality, my friend, not about the pictures. The latter was a nice improvement, but the audio of L&G official is just ridiculously bad and a big disappointment, especially compared to the recent 1971 live releases of Leeds, Roundhouse and Marquee.

It would be a great treat if we would get L&G in the same audio quality as the 1971 live releases. But it won't happen.

On a side note: imagine if there was more and audio wise qualitatively great official stuff (DVD's!) from the Taylor era, released back in the day as well (thus: not from the vault!) - from the 1970, 1972 and especially the 1973 tour. Imagine how people would react to the Stones as they are now. Because then those DVD's etc. would be widely known and people would refer to them. For us it's a pity that stuff never was released, but for the recent band it's in hindsight a huge blessing in disguise!

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The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.

I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.

Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,

XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!

They were talking about the audio quality, my friend, not about the pictures. The latter was a nice improvement, but the audio of L&G official is just ridiculously bad and a big disappointment, especially compared to the recent 1971 live releases of Leeds, Roundhouse and Marquee.

It would be a great treat if we would get L&G in the same audio quality as the 1971 live releases. But it won't happen.

Frankly I think the audio comes from the film reel they used for the remastered dvd. I highly doubt there were any multi-track audio tapes available to remix, like there was for Marquee '71. This is might why it sounds so freakin bad. Even audio deteriorates when film reels are stored badly.

There may have been multi-tracks for the individual shows which the movie is made from. But maybe they were too lazy to dig out the tapes from each of those shows and only remix a few songs from each concert, so they simply took the audio they already had on the film.



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The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.

I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.

Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,

XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!

They were talking about the audio quality, my friend, not about the pictures. The latter was a nice improvement, but the audio of L&G official is just ridiculously bad and a big disappointment, especially compared to the recent 1971 live releases of Leeds, Roundhouse and Marquee.

It would be a great treat if we would get L&G in the same audio quality as the 1971 live releases. But it won't happen.

Frankly I think the audio comes from the film reel they used for the remastered dvd. I highly doubt there were any multi-track audio tapes available to remix, like there was for Marquee '71. This is might why it sounds so freakin bad. Even audio deteriorates when film reels are stored badly.

There may have been multi-tracks for the individual shows which the movie is made from. But maybe they were too lazy to dig out the tapes from each of those shows and only remix a few songs from each concert, so they simply took the audio they already had on the film.

The extremely bad audio from L&G 2010 was always a mystery for me, too! But this is the first plausible explanation, thanks for that!

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The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.

I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.

Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,

XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!

They were talking about the audio quality, my friend, not about the pictures. The latter was a nice improvement, but the audio of L&G official is just ridiculously bad and a big disappointment, especially compared to the recent 1971 live releases of Leeds, Roundhouse and Marquee.

It would be a great treat if we would get L&G in the same audio quality as the 1971 live releases. But it won't happen.

Frankly I think the audio comes from the film reel they used for the remastered dvd. I highly doubt there were any multi-track audio tapes available to remix, like there was for Marquee '71. This is might why it sounds so freakin bad. Even audio deteriorates when film reels are stored badly.

There may have been multi-tracks for the individual shows which the movie is made from. But maybe they were too lazy to dig out the tapes from each of those shows and only remix a few songs from each concert, so they simply took the audio they already had on the film.

The extremely bad audio from L&G 2010 was always a mystery for me, too! But this is the first plausible explanation, thanks for that!

Agreed!

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Watched it a couple of times now, but there isn't much to like about it. Yes it is nice to see the Stones on stage in 71, but it is just an awful gig. This isn't a testimony the Stones of the early 70's deserve.

Mathijs

I find it a very fine gig and listen to it often. Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch, Brown Sugar. How can one not love it, being into Stones music? Even Live With Me and Let It Rock are really okay.

Keith Richards' sound is too clean imo, but apart from that the entire band is ok.

Midnight Rambler; slightly edited, restored & remixed audio

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