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You did, a few posts up.
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Miss You, for me, is like Fool to Cry. I feel like I shouldn't like it, but I do.
Best single «since the 60s», I said. And it was.
The reason why you like it says a lot about why it is so brilliant.
But you are not clear Dandie. Do you mean best sold single or best single in terms of musical quality or both?
I am kleer. I said «the best single», not the best song
Except for Beast of Burden, Brown Sugar, Angie, It's Only Rock and Roll, Tumbling Dice, Wild Horses....... I actually like the song much more than I like what represented for Stones music...the end of the golden rock period.
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You did, a few posts up.
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Miss You, for me, is like Fool to Cry. I feel like I shouldn't like it, but I do.
Best single «since the 60s», I said. And it was.
The reason why you like it says a lot about why it is so brilliant.
But you are not clear Dandie. Do you mean best sold single or best single in terms of musical quality or both?
I am kleer. I said «the best single», not the best song
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...I don't really understand the hatred of this song...
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...I don't really understand the hatred of this song...
I don't understand that comment... granted I skimmed but it seems almost all love the song.
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...I don't really understand the hatred of this song...
I don't understand that comment... granted I skimmed but it seems almost all love the song.
I think a lot of us like the SG version somewhat but can't stand to hear it played live. There has been plenty of negative opinion expressed about this song on other threads.
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It is so easy after so much time to minimize Miss You's impact and importance in their history. Many folks are sick of the song, and I agree, live it has become somewhat rote. And many younger fans who weren't of age in 1978 don't get it as well.
Miss You was a MONSTER! By 78 the Stones seemed to be aimlessly kicking the pebble down the path. Some interesting forays into Funkrock...but then Punk rose like Godzilla scorching the dance floors setting bellbottoms a flame. And bloated dinosaurs of rock were in their sites. So against all odds, as the flaming corpse of disco was being being jeered and sliced, The Rolling Stones reach to their roots and create a hybrid Curtis Mayfield funk rock hit. This aint no glitter disco ball! This is a funk, punk, rock gumbo of angst, pain, and anger. An opera for divorce in Gotham. Alienated coke addled lovers realizing their fantasy is over. The atmosphere is dark and nihilistic. A rock star, left alone with his little black book and a coke spoon. Puerto Rican girls rumbling up from the Barrio to ride and party all night long. When in pain do what comes natural for a middle aged rock star, grind, sweat, and snort as the sun rips through his eyeballs and stains the walls. Miss You was a monster summer song. Detroit was steaming in a hot city summer. Miss you howling from the car windows, from hot kitchens, spitting like hot bacon grease on the arm! You wanna slap it! You wanna grab it! You wanna dance under a black light in leather and do a line of cock off the sinewy back of a dancer. MISS YOU! A monster of epic proportions that raised the Stones to another peak. It was their summer. And this song conquered it for them.
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It is so easy after so much time to minimize Miss You's impact and importance in their history. Many folks are sick of the song, and I agree, live it has become somewhat rote. And many younger fans who weren't of age in 1978 don't get it as well.
Miss You was a MONSTER! By 78 the Stones seemed to be aimlessly kicking the pebble down the path. Some interesting forays into Funkrock...but then Punk rose like Godzilla scorching the dance floors setting bellbottoms a flame. And bloated dinosaurs of rock were in their sites. So against all odds, as the flaming corpse of disco was being being jeered and sliced, The Rolling Stones reach to their roots and create a hybrid Curtis Mayfield funk rock hit. This aint no glitter disco ball! This is a funk, punk, rock gumbo of angst, pain, and anger. An opera for divorce in Gotham. Alienated coke addled lovers realizing their fantasy is over. The atmosphere is dark and nihilistic. A rock star, left alone with his little black book and a coke spoon. Puerto Rican girls rumbling up from the Barrio to ride and party all night long. When in pain do what comes natural for a middle aged rock star, grind, sweat, and snort as the sun rips through his eyeballs and stains the walls. Miss You was a monster summer song. Detroit was steaming in a hot city summer. Miss you howling from the car windows, from hot kitchens, spitting like hot bacon grease on the arm! You wanna slap it! You wanna grab it! You wanna dance under a black light in leather and do a line of cock off the sinewy back of a dancer. MISS YOU! A monster of epic proportions that raised the Stones to another peak. It was their summer. And this song conquered it for them.
Holy shit, whitem8, that is a FABULOUS paragraph!! I love your writing, it is sheer poetry. (Are you a professional writer?) Just one thing ... I'm sure you meant "a line of coke"!!
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It is so easy after so much time to minimize Miss You's impact and importance in their history. Many folks are sick of the song, and I agree, live it has become somewhat rote. And many younger fans who weren't of age in 1978 don't get it as well.
Miss You was a MONSTER! By 78 the Stones seemed to be aimlessly kicking the pebble down the path. Some interesting forays into Funkrock...but then Punk rose like Godzilla scorching the dance floors setting bellbottoms a flame. And bloated dinosaurs of rock were in their sites. So against all odds, as the flaming corpse of disco was being being jeered and sliced, The Rolling Stones reach to their roots and create a hybrid Curtis Mayfield funk rock hit. This aint no glitter disco ball! This is a funk, punk, rock gumbo of angst, pain, and anger. An opera for divorce in Gotham. Alienated coke addled lovers realizing their fantasy is over. The atmosphere is dark and nihilistic. A rock star, left alone with his little black book and a coke spoon. Puerto Rican girls rumbling up from the Barrio to ride and party all night long. When in pain do what comes natural for a middle aged rock star, grind, sweat, and snort as the sun rips through his eyeballs and stains the walls. Miss You was a monster summer song. Detroit was steaming in a hot city summer. Miss you howling from the car windows, from hot kitchens, spitting like hot bacon grease on the arm! You wanna slap it! You wanna grab it! You wanna dance under a black light in leather and do a line of cock off the sinewy back of a dancer. MISS YOU! A monster of epic proportions that raised the Stones to another peak. It was their summer. And this song conquered it for them.
Holy shit, whitem8, that is a FABULOUS paragraph!! I love your writing, it is sheer poetry. (Are you a professional writer?) Just one thing ... I'm sure you meant "a line of coke"!!
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Fantastic write up. I hope someone captures start me up's Impact nearly as well as I believe it was similar.
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There is nothing like remembering the actual times as they occurred. The Stones had struggled since Angie to get a hit with some traction. It's Only Rock And Roll was seen as lightweight novelty, and maybe the Stones sneering at their own audience. They had no hit to tour on in '75, and just released the Made in the Shade package. I remember hearing Hot Stuff in a clothing store, which was where you heard a lot of music in the States in the 70s. I thought it was interesting, but it didn't have mass appeal. (Looking back Hey Negrita might have been a better single). But Miss You left no doubt. The Stones were back. Emotional Rescue almost seemed a lame attempt to recapture the magic they'd just created. And then Start Me Up, the capper, pure rock and roll brilliance.
Isn't it ironic that they can't quite pull off Miss You on stage anymore because the bass player isn't funky enough? Not Stones funky.
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It is so easy after so much time to minimize Miss You's impact and importance in their history. Many folks are sick of the song, and I agree, live it has become somewhat rote. And many younger fans who weren't of age in 1978 don't get it as well.
Miss You was a MONSTER! By 78 the Stones seemed to be aimlessly kicking the pebble down the path. Some interesting forays into Funkrock...but then Punk rose like Godzilla scorching the dance floors setting bellbottoms a flame. And bloated dinosaurs of rock were in their sites. So against all odds, as the flaming corpse of disco was being being jeered and sliced, The Rolling Stones reach to their roots and create a hybrid Curtis Mayfield funk rock hit. This aint no glitter disco ball! This is a funk, punk, rock gumbo of angst, pain, and anger. An opera for divorce in Gotham. Alienated coke addled lovers realizing their fantasy is over. The atmosphere is dark and nihilistic. A rock star, left alone with his little black book and a coke spoon. Puerto Rican girls rumbling up from the Barrio to ride and party all night long. When in pain do what comes natural for a middle aged rock star, grind, sweat, and snort as the sun rips through his eyeballs and stains the walls. Miss You was a monster summer song. Detroit was steaming in a hot city summer. Miss you howling from the car windows, from hot kitchens, spitting like hot bacon grease on the arm! You wanna slap it! You wanna grab it! You wanna dance under a black light in leather and do a line of cock off the sinewy back of a dancer. MISS YOU! A monster of epic proportions that raised the Stones to another peak. It was their summer. And this song conquered it for them.
Holy shit, whitem8, that is a FABULOUS paragraph!! I love your writing, it is sheer poetry. (Are you a professional writer?) Just one thing ... I'm sure you meant "a line of coke"!!
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There is nothing like remembering the actual times as they occurred. The Stones had struggled since Angie to get a hit with some traction. It's Only Rock And Roll was seen as lightweight novelty, and maybe the Stones sneering at their own audience. They had no hit to tour on in '75, and just released the Made in the Shade package. I remember hearing Hot Stuff in a clothing store, which was where you heard a lot of music in the States in the 70s. I thought it was interesting, but it didn't have mass appeal. (Looking back Hey Negrita might have been a better single). But Miss You left no doubt. The Stones were back. Emotional Rescue almost seemed a lame attempt to recapture the magic they'd just created. And then Start Me Up, the capper, pure rock and roll brilliance.
Isn't it ironic that they can't quite pull off Miss You on stage anymore because the bass player isn't funky enough? Not Stones funky.
I think it's more the whole band who can't pull it off, imo. Or more precisely, they don't wanna pull it off like that.
To me it sounds like they don't wanna do the funky disco groove. Instead, it sounds like a watered-down soul number these days. The guitars are also important for that groove, and what Ronnie and Keith play is not sounding worked out or planned at all. I know Ronnie does some of the licks, but that doesn't help unless he is high in the mix...
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There is nothing like remembering the actual times as they occurred. The Stones had struggled since Angie to get a hit with some traction. It's Only Rock And Roll was seen as lightweight novelty, and maybe the Stones sneering at their own audience. They had no hit to tour on in '75, and just released the Made in the Shade package. I remember hearing Hot Stuff in a clothing store, which was where you heard a lot of music in the States in the 70s. I thought it was interesting, but it didn't have mass appeal. (Looking back Hey Negrita might have been a better single). But Miss You left no doubt. The Stones were back. Emotional Rescue almost seemed a lame attempt to recapture the magic they'd just created. And then Start Me Up, the capper, pure rock and roll brilliance.
Isn't it ironic that they can't quite pull off Miss You on stage anymore because the bass player isn't funky enough? Not Stones funky.
I think it's more the whole band who can't pull it off, imo. Or more precisely, they don't wanna pull it off like that.
To me it sounds like they don't wanna do the funky disco groove. Instead, it sounds like a watered-down soul number these days. The guitars are also important for that groove, and what Ronnie and Keith play is not sounding worked out or planned at all. I know Ronnie does some of the licks, but that doesn't help unless he is high in the mix...
Good observation, Dandy! The guitars - and let's face it: the enire band - sounds a bit pedestrian on this tune nowadays, and it certainly does the song no good. But the thing with Miss You is that -at least for me- the studio version is one of those perfect Stones performances - not a single note too much, not a single note missed, everything's in place and simply perfect. It's hard to re-create that on stage, although it worked in 1978, with this punkish attitude on stage.
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Yes, single implies something that was released on its own. Gimme shelter - not a single. Rock in a hard place=a single. Go figure :-)
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“‘Miss You’ wasn’t disco disco. Disco records at that time didn’t have guitars much, and they all had shimmering string lines and oo-eeoo-ee girls.
It was influenced by it, but not it. I like that.” - Mick
Even with the Billy Preston inspired bass line and drum beat, I've never considered it "disco disco" either.
It was an anthem in the summer of '78 which was played relentlessly on the radio - loved it then and still love it now - even when played live.
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“‘Miss You’ wasn’t disco disco. Disco records at that time didn’t have guitars much, and they all had shimmering string lines and oo-eeoo-ee girls.
It was influenced by it, but not it. I like that.” - Mick
Even with the Billy Preston inspired bass line and drum beat, I've never considered it "disco disco" either.
It was an anthem in the summer of '78 which was played relentlessly on the radio - loved it then and still love it now - even when played live.
Really the only thing "disco" about it was the four on the floor beat and the bass line. On top of that was a hybrid of funk, rock, soul, even blues influence. It's a masterpiece recording but as for live versions...eh...not since 1978 - 81 was it interesting live. Now it's totally cookie cutter.