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I absolutely do not know why anyone would want to buy an autograph - except maybe
1) The attraction of having something that your idol has actually touched, like a relic of a saint
or 2) The commercial added value of the thing.

I can see that you might like to have one as a souvenir of an actual meeting - and for me it would be the meeting, not the autograph, that would be important. Asking for an autograph is a kind of legitimate reason for talking to someone famous who you wouldn't otherwise have any excuse for bothering - the scribble on the book or the bit of paper is neither here nor there. So yes, I'd get my book signed so that I could talk to the author - but I'd be just as happy to have the chat without the autograph.

I'm with Max here - I don't really "get" autographs.

Well that makes 2 of us ....

and ya know another reason I dont want to ask/get autographs is what if the person is snotty about it, or a jerk? that might make me like them less, and that would be silly, they dont owe me... or what if they asked me why I want it and I couldnt explain.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-10-13 12:31 by Max'sKansasCity.

What about the old story of Truman Capote in a Key West bar ...

A woman drinking with her husband spots Capote across the bar
approaches him and asks if he'd sign his autograph on her breast ....

Capote obliges and signs her breast....Drunk husband becomes angry
confronts Capote and while standing over him flops out his penis and suggests that Capote autograph it also ..

Capote looks up and says ...
Don't know if I can autograph it but maybe I can initial it



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Rockman
What about the old story of Truman Capote in a Key West bar ...

A woman drinking with her husband spots Capote across the bar
approaches him and asks if he'd sign his autograph on her breast ....

Capote obliges and signs her breast....Drunk husband becomes angry
confronts Capote and while standing over him flops out his penis and suggests that Capote autograph it also ..

Capote looks up and says ...
Don't know if I can autograph it but maybe I can initial it

ok I bet I screw this joke up!:

it's the White dude and the Rasta standing next to each other taking a pee at the urinal. White guy says "I see you have WE tattooed on your cock. I have WE tattoed on mine too. When I'm fully in the mood it reads WENDY. is your girl called Wendy too".

Rasta says "When I'm getting jiffy with my lady this says WELCOME TO JAMAICA"

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Rockman
What about the old story of Truman Capote in a Key West bar ...

A woman drinking with her husband spots Capote across the bar
approaches him and asks if he'd sign his autograph on her breast ....

Capote obliges and signs her breast....Drunk husband becomes angry
confronts Capote and while standing over him flops out his penis and suggests that Capote autograph it also ..

Capote looks up and says ...
Don't know if I can autograph it but maybe I can initial it

ok I bet I screw this joke up!:


it's the White dude and the Rasta standing next to each other taking a pee at the urinal. White guy says "I see you have WE tattooed on your cock. I have WE tattoed on mine too. When I'm fully in the mood it reads WENDY. is your girl called Wendy too".

Rasta says "When I'm getting jiffy with my lady this says WELCOME TO JAMAICA"

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-10-13 16:54 by NICOS.

What is an autopen? Doesn't seem authenic.

I too have one of those "signed books." Bummer for sure.

My favorite autograph story is the one about George Harrison. When asked to sign a photo of the Beatles, he would sign it, then he would add perfect forgeries of the signatures of the other three Beatles.

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GravityBoy
Why couldn't he sit and sign 50 lousy books?

How long would that?

10 minutes?

I hate this pulling the wool over people's eyes.

I hate marketing.

Come the revolution...

tell me when & where, i´ll be there

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I was gonna ask how the hell this autocrap works....








And lots of other videos showing how it is done on the suggested videos which show up after the videos are done playing.

which one's the machine with Keith in it?

The one with the bad hair implants.

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71Tele
Do those auto-pen things work with guitars?

Yes they can and that's why I warn people unless you see it signed suspect it could be unauthentic. All that crap on eBay and other auction sites I would not trust period. In some cases a COA is not worth the paper it's printed on.

CBII

When I first read this thread, i thought that autopenning just 50 books seemed like a lot of trouble for such a small amount of books. I just looked at my books from the the NYC book event that I attended. I have 2. One of them is almost identical to the poster's signature. Not totally identical, but very similar. Another looks as if it was signed quicker, in a different pen, but no '10. If the OPs book is auto penned, then I believe all of them from the NYC event are also auto penned. It just doesn't make sense that he'd sign 1000 or whatever book by hand, yet send out 50 to be auto penned. I will post some pics later.

If this is true, I feel bad for everyone who got one, especially those who paid over $1000 for one on eBay. It was still a great event. It's funny, when I got these books, the thought that they were auto penned did cross my mind, especially with the one that looks most like the OPs. The signature is sort of shaky, right? I attributed that to his arthritis and/or that he signed them in a car, on a plane, or some other less than ideal circumstance. Since all the signatures I saw were all different, I figured that they were good. I mean, how many different signatures were used, and why go through so much trouble to deceive?

CBII - I can't believe you're on this board! I'm flying from NYC to St. Louis next weekend for the Argosy show. I signed up for your message board but haven't been approved yet. I have a question for you.



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I wonder if the 'special signed edition" given at Waterstones,London, also are autopen.

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I was gonna ask how the hell this autocrap works....

which one's the machine with Keith in it?

The one that swings the pen around elegantly, but hardly even touches the paper....scratches the paper up whenever it does reach it

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Max'sKansasCity
I was gonna ask how the hell this autocrap works....

which one's the machine with Keith in it?

The one that swings the pen around elegantly, but hardly even touches the paper....scratches the paper up whenever it does reach it

An autograph with this device isn't real..... normally when you sign you turn your pencil while writing...this pencil stay straight ( I have to find some pictures to clarify ..but can't find them yet.)

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Ok here are the signatures. Note that the one in the blue ink is smaller than the one in black. The one in black is large and takes up a significant width of the page.







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The blue is autopen. Looks like a drawling not a signature.

This is the best "fakemaker": Konrad Kujau!
He managed to produce fakes of "@#$%&´s diaries".
German magazine STERN bought it, as historians
(i.e. Hugh Trevor Roper) proved the diaries
"original". What a great joke.

Kujau could fake signatures, handwritings and even
paintings. He died in 2000. So he didn´t sign Keith´s LIFE.

Did Mr Kujau only have one testicle????????????



ROCKMAN

Nice one, trainarollin. Spinner is taking up your story.

Keith Richards' 'Autopen' Autographed 'Life' Book is Making Signature-Hunting Rolling Stones Fan Wary

An Oct. 12 posting on the Stones fan site It's Only Rock 'n Roll forum by fan "trainarollin" claims two "certified document examiners" inspected an autograph from the Rolling Stones guitarist to see if it was authentic.

[www.spinner.com]

Whoa---so cool! Nice trainarollin!

It's well documented that the Gregg Allman books were also autopen, including the ones sold at bookstores marked "Signed Copy".

And what about the Keith Richards Life exclusive signed edition presigned 300 copies from Waterstones London 3 nov'10 then ,?

Anyone involved in any autopen scam anywhere... should be jailed.

That INCLUDES the supposed signatory.

It's an outrage.

I would have my doubts about the "presigned" copies being hand-signed. It's a publishers sales gimmick and a way for people who were shut out of a book signing to walk away with something.

Here's Gregg Allman's response to his Autopen situation and fans reactions. Gregg meant well, but it backfired.
[www.allmanbrothersband.com]

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I would have my doubts about the "presigned" copies being hand-signed. It's a publishers sales gimmick and a way for people who were shut out of a book signing to walk away with something.

Here's Gregg Allman's response to his Autopen situation and fans reactions. Gregg meant well, but it backfired.
[www.allmanbrothersband.com]

" it replicated my exact signature, using my very own pen. "

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-10-16 23:14 by GravityBoy.

So true. I have a modest collection of lyrics and other memorabilia from my days as a journalist, and the No. 1 Rule - always - is to assume that everything is fake unless you personally saw the signature being done.

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I would have my doubts about the "presigned" copies being hand-signed. It's a publishers sales gimmick and a way for people who were shut out of a book signing to walk away with something.

Here's Gregg Allman's response to his Autopen situation and fans reactions. Gregg meant well, but it backfired.
[www.allmanbrothersband.com]

so its commen practise , that opened my eyes

Keith should have done this : ask Chcuck Leavell to sign the copies of "Life".

PS : so you think a guy who cannot write his own name 50 times in a row can play guitar for 1h45 for a paying audience?

Answer on Nov. 25...

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PS : so you think a guy who cannot write his own name 50 times in a row can play guitar for 1h45 for a paying audience?

Answer on Nov. 25...

Good one !

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Keith should have done this : ask Chcuck Leavell to sign the copies of "Life".

PS : so you think a guy who cannot write his own name 50 times in a row can play guitar for 1h45 for a paying audience?

Answer on Nov. 25...

Dammit Chcuck!!