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Cocaine Eyes
My take is that the Stones are simply being quiet about it all - and please, this constant talk about Mick and Keith still holding grudges/being upset with each other is getting old.

They've both put up with enough over the years to get over anything now.

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7/ The Rolling Stones recently jammed (w/Bill Wyman) together and videotaped it.

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Cocaine Eyes
My take is that the Stones are simply being quiet about it all - and please, this constant talk about Mick and Keith still holding grudges/being upset with each other is getting old.

They've both put up with enough over the years to get over anything now.

Agreed

There is nothing to the Mick wont tour w/Keith nonsense. Anybody who knows anything about the Stones knows that there is far too much $ on the table to let yet another Keith/Mick argument get in the way. They are just keeping their plans quiet until they get the best financial deals they can...All signs are clearly starting to point Stones activity is the very near future.

1/ Bill Wyman publicly saying they want him back for a tour.
2/ Keith Richards saying the Stones would be hitting the studio in April.
3/ Ronnie Wood saying (then taking it back) the same thing that Richards said a few weeks back about the Stones going into the studio.
4/ Stonesdoug (he doesn't make stuff up) confirms Richards and Wood's reports even putting dates on them.
5/ Various leaks from companies like Live Nation that the Stones are looking at tour offers.
6/ All members inluding Charlie Watts and Mick Jagger saying they want to tour.
7/ The Rolling Stones recently jammed (w/Bill Wyman) together and videotaped it.
8/ MONEY - The biggest motivating factor for he Stones...There is no way they pass on the vast amounts of money a 50th Anniversary will bring them. 2013 will easily be the biggest Stones year since the 1989 Steel Wheels tour and album.

Save your money because the Rolling Stones are about to be everywhere in the very near future

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The secrecy with which this band operates is really annoying. Is Mick Jagger a navy seal or a rock n' roll singer?

He's a businessman above anything else.

You don't announce a business decision before you have covered every detail for what you're trying to accomplish.

Excellent point EG.

It is a good point but I think Jagger's behavior is not anything extraordinary. I think it is quite common tactics when something is planned by a group of people, or there is a work in progress - that you don't comment that on public. And especially when all of it is just 'testing', which means to say, it is not certain at all if anything will happen or turn out fine. I think Wood - and to an extent Richards as well (but is a bit different deal with him) - broke that kind of social code by their big mouths. People here seem to 'understand' Woodie (partly because he says something everyone wishes to hear) and being angry for Jagger for zipping his mouth, but I can understand Jagger's position very well. You just don't comment an ongoing process in public - the process that might fail big time. It's not anyone damn's business.

The whole other thing is to offer public wishes what someone would like to happen. And that was Ronnie' (failed) excuse in trying to save his face. But there is a huge difference in saying "I wish we would go to studio and that everything very would turn fine" and "we are going to studio to see if we can do anything at all".

Rock and roll band does not differ at all of any other team work or social group of people doing and planning something together. No one likes deepthroats in certain - or any - stages of process. Seemingly Jagger and Watts are very strict about that but Richards and especially Wood no so much - with Richards there is a whole different power game going on, but with Wood the case is just eating the bite too easily (offered by the hype over the Stones), and not having enough self-control. Besides I think Wood broke the Stones code that when a Stone does something solo, he keeps mouth his shut up about the Stones activities. You don't "use" The Stones for your personal activities.

(Important: The presuppostion of my post is that what Ronnie Wood said in the first place is true - that he prevailed something he should not have done.)

- Doxa

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Honestly, I think the confusion is part of the Stones's strategy for their anniversary. The more confusion, the bigger the bang (pun intended!) when they present their plans.

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Honestly, I think the confusion is part of the Stones's strategy for their anniversary. The more confusion, the bigger the bang (pun intended!) when they present their plans.

I see no confusion in their plans, in my opinion it's all very clear - we get a documentary, a photo book and some kind of 50 Licks album. There is no tour or other performances this year - by their own words.
I think Jagger chose the English way to leave - without saying goodbye, quietly and with dignity, without the boom.
Regarding their plans for 2013 - that's interesting information to think about:
Terence Winter( "Boardwalk Empire"and "The Sopranos" ) was guest of honour this week at a TV festival held at Paris' Forum des Images. Among other things, he said that he and Scorsese have a new series on the boil, with Mick Jagger as co-producer: set for broadcast in 2013 it is built around a New York record industry executive in 1973, "the year that punk, hip hop and disco emerged".
"New York at the time was really at a low point, the city was bankrupt and it was just a crazy time," Winter said. "And as is often the case in political and economic upheaval, it's a very fertile time for artists."
[www.france24.com]

I guess this is the reason for Mick staying in New York and I doubt that he he will have time to do anything besides this series in 2013

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Honestly, I think the confusion is part of the Stones's strategy for their anniversary. The more confusion, the bigger the bang (pun intended!) when they present their plans.

I see no confusion in their plans, in my opinion it's all very clear - we get a documentary, a photo book and some kind of 50 Licks album. There is no tour or other performances this year - by their own words.
I think Jagger chose the English way to leave - without saying goodbye, quietly and with dignity, without the boom.
Regarding their plans for 2013 - that's interesting information to think about:
Terence Winter( "Boardwalk Empire"and "The Sopranos" ) was guest of honour this week at a TV festival held at Paris' Forum des Images. Among other things, he said that he and Scorsese have a new series on the boil, with Mick Jagger as co-producer: set for broadcast in 2013 it is built around a New York record industry executive in 1973, "the year that punk, hip hop and disco emerged".
"New York at the time was really at a low point, the city was bankrupt and it was just a crazy time," Winter said. "And as is often the case in political and economic upheaval, it's a very fertile time for artists."
[www.france24.com]

I guess this is the reason for Mick staying in New York and I doubt that he he will have time to do anything besides this series in 2013

This project was mentioned here on the board almost a year ago.

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I'm not proudmary, but is this it:

[www.deadline.com]

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Honestly, I think the confusion is part of the Stones's strategy for their anniversary. The more confusion, the bigger the bang (pun intended!) when they present their plans.

I see no confusion in their plans, in my opinion it's all very clear - we get a documentary, a photo book and some kind of 50 Licks album. There is no tour or other performances this year - by their own words.
I think Jagger chose the English way to leave - without saying goodbye, quietly and with dignity, without the boom.
Regarding their plans for 2013 - that's interesting information to think about:
Terence Winter( "Boardwalk Empire"and "The Sopranos" ) was guest of honour this week at a TV festival held at Paris' Forum des Images. Among other things, he said that he and Scorsese have a new series on the boil, with Mick Jagger as co-producer: set for broadcast in 2013 it is built around a New York record industry executive in 1973, "the year that punk, hip hop and disco emerged".
"New York at the time was really at a low point, the city was bankrupt and it was just a crazy time," Winter said. "And as is often the case in political and economic upheaval, it's a very fertile time for artists."
[www.france24.com]

I guess this is the reason for Mick staying in New York and I doubt that he he will have time to do anything besides this series in 2013

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looks like me and "Proudmary" are on the same page....book/documentary/50 Licks REMASTERED....again....maybe down the road a few more of these expanded editions of the past catalog...but not the 60's stuff until Klein decides he's like to do that...

i will say this...i won't buy any of the above mentioned other than the ones with bonus tracks...it will be retread...and i NEVER WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE ANCIENT ART OF WEAVING AGAIN AS LONG AS I LIVE...they haven't woven anything in a long time...i will admit that they played well together on Some Girls...no doubt...but other than that the 'weaving' was done by Keith & Brian...Ron and Keith didn't weave...they snorted...

... i finally watched those clips from Austin you guys were talking about and it made me sick...Blondie back there playing guitar...smiling like a guy that works in Guitar Center...and the front row filled with perfume soaked old hags and their smiling grandchildren...Keith smoking and posing and his lapdog Ronnie...posing...this is who the good seats go to???...all corporate nonsense...

The Rolling Stones & Mott The Hoople have always been my favorite bands...and i love the Stones dearly...and HOPE they will prove me wrong...but unless they do a proper LP and go out with some sort of dignity on an "artistic" level then i have no interest...and they have no excuse...other than laziness...

at least Ian Hunter has a new LP coming out...he's 72 and does one every couple of years...and tours...

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Honestly, I think the confusion is part of the Stones's strategy for their anniversary. The more confusion, the bigger the bang (pun intended!) when they present their plans.

I see no confusion in their plans, in my opinion it's all very clear - we get a documentary, a photo book and some kind of 50 Licks album. There is no tour or other performances this year - by their own words.
I think Jagger chose the English way to leave - without saying goodbye, quietly and with dignity, without the boom.
Regarding their plans for 2013 - that's interesting information to think about:
Terence Winter( "Boardwalk Empire"and "The Sopranos" ) was guest of honour this week at a TV festival held at Paris' Forum des Images. Among other things, he said that he and Scorsese have a new series on the boil, with Mick Jagger as co-producer: set for broadcast in 2013 it is built around a New York record industry executive in 1973, "the year that punk, hip hop and disco emerged".
"New York at the time was really at a low point, the city was bankrupt and it was just a crazy time," Winter said. "And as is often the case in political and economic upheaval, it's a very fertile time for artists."
[www.france24.com]

I guess this is the reason for Mick staying in New York and I doubt that he he will have time to do anything besides this series in 2013

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Klein operates the Stones 1960s catalogue from the grave? Wow. He really is powerful.

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Cocaine Eyes
I'm not proudmary, but is this it:

[www.deadline.com]

Thanks, CE! Yep, looks like Jagger is producing only - that usually means funding it, or maybe supervising the project financially, but not so much artistically.

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"Jagger will also executive produce. His producing partner Victoria Pearman as well as Scorsese's manager Rick Yorn are attached as EPs"."

Please elaborate on the current role of the producer in modern cinema and television, as I've always had the impression that producers in film, contrary to music, had the role of financing the project.

Directing is of course a different thing. Mick directing? Hm, cool for him, but do you really see that happening?

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and the front row filled with perfume soaked old hags and their smiling grandchildren...Keith smoking and posing and his lapdog Ronnie...posing...this is who the good seats go to???...all corporate nonsense..

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My take is that the Stones are simply being quiet about it all - and please, this constant talk about Mick and Keith still holding grudges/being upset with each other is getting old.

They've both put up with enough over the years to get over anything now.

Agreed

7/ The Rolling Stones recently jammed (w/Bill Wyman) together and videotaped it.


Save your money because the Rolling Stones are about to be everywhere in the very near future

Are you just assuming that this studio jam was staged for the documentary (hence being filmed), or do you know this for a fact?




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