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Dirty Work is easily Mick's worst vocal performance for an album.

I think it's one of his best personally. Seriously. Mick's voice is the best thing about the album.

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StonesTod
burdon sings better these days than he did in his youth...i will not tolerate dissent on this point

Can you post some recent footage to prove your point?

I suppose in reality Mick has never had a great range if that's how you want to judge singers. However he's singing in blues and rock and to me that doesn't require a lot of range. Back in the 60's Mich had a great voice, a unique voice and almost everybody was trying to do Mick.

At some point, I don't quite remember when, Mick started doing Mick too and that's where he made his mistake. It seems he can't stop doing Mick because he's done it for so long now. It's a shame and sometimes he does seem to back off on it and then he sounds a lot better to me.

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StonesTod
burdon sings better these days than he did in his youth...i will not tolerate dissent on this point

Can you post some recent footage to prove your point?

i don't post footage. and i don't foot postage.

Eric Burdon, 2006:





Burdon 2008, no problems with the high notes that I can hear!





Not saying the arrangement is top - intro far too long, the whole thing a bit corny - but the pipes are still working fine IMO.



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By ear, naturally.

burdon sings better these days than he did in his youth...i will not tolerate dissent on this point


Yep, and Bobby Charlton has never been a better fotball player than he is nowadays...

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Eric Burdon, 2006:





Burdon 2008, no problems with the high notes that I can hear!





Not saying the arrangement is top - intro far too long, the whole thing a bit corny - but the pipes are still working fine IMO.

OK, you win! He sounds great.

MJ is an ingenious, great blues singer, his voice has an eminent authenticity. You recognize him at once. MJ is no smooth, polished singer, but his broken voice shines also on many ballads. His voice needs a stern discipline, however. Without discipline he is the growling, howling, barking monster of the seventies (especially 75/76, the LA concerts are sometimes impertinent since his coke-chopped vocals ruined some songs completely.)

Some singers are lucky to be born with a signature voice. Jagger was that fortunate, and he knows it very well. He could have gone the clever way about using it (taking lessongs, technique etc), but luckily he didn't do that until the 80s.

His raw way of singing has made his voice even more unique, imo.



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Some singers are lucky to be born with a signature voice. Jagger was that fortunate, and he knows it very well. He could have gone the clever way about using it (taking lessongs, technique etc), but luckily he didn't do that until the 80s.

His raw way of singing has made his voice even more unique, imo.

I agree...

intresting thread, Iggy pop stated recently that he cant reach as high as he did when he was younger,
but on the other hand his lower register is lower than ever...

I cannot listen to Mick from 1988- now with one exception, some of the songs at the Toronto 1997 gig. Mick still can sing, probably very good even, but he just dont do it. He lacks soul for some reason. Maybe he doesnt want to be a rock star anymore? He was the best from the start to maybe 1978. He did some songs like Shattered in 1981. I think he was at his best and truest self in 1975. Fight me about this if you like but be prepared to argue, I have already explained why I regard 1975 as his best. In an older thread.

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I cannot listen to Mick from 1988- now with one exception, some of the songs at the Toronto 1997 gig. Mick still can sing, probably very good even, but he just dont do it. He lacks soul for some reason. Maybe he doesnt want to be a rock star anymore? He was the best from the start to maybe 1978. He did some songs like Shattered in 1981. I think he was at his best and truest self in 1975. Fight me about this if you like but be prepared to argue, I have already explained why I regard 1975 as his best. In an older thread.

Stripped?

The problem with Mick is not the quality of his voice or notes, its what's underneath it. He can't connect anymore - well at least with myself. For example: Celine Dion has a great voice and what have you, but the energy or feeling she transmits is something dull and without substance - like a hollow ostrich egg. Mick's lost the blues, the soul and his own self for wanting to be up there with the commercial and artificial orbit.

knockin' celine dion now??? i give up....

I love Mick's mannerisms, now and then. The nasal quality to his voice gets better with time.

Mick's voice has never had the vulnerability/emotional power of a John Lennon. I think there's always been a slightly distant/pop singer quality to Mick's voice. Mick has always sounded in control. Mick never seems personally involved in a musical performance, or overwhelmed emotionally. I don't think the real Mick has a fragile emotional base to begin with, having grown up in a relatively middle class household with a good, secure family life. I think the appeal of his voice is confidence, with some humor. The darkness in the Stones' music has come from the instrumentation, starting with Brian's rhythm guitar playing and evolving to Bill's emotional bass playing and Keith's later playing. Mick does have emotional songs, but they always seem to have boundaries. Of course no one does lascivious like Mick.

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knockin' celine dion now??? i give up....

Or "Sea Lion Dying" as I prefer to call her...

He has become a better singer down through the years. His voice is slowly going, but what else would you expect for someone approaching 70 years old? Overall, he is still damn good and should be fine at least through the 2015 concerts. After that it is anybody's guess.

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The problem with Mick is not the quality of his voice or notes, its what's underneath it. He can't connect anymore - well at least with myself. For example: Celine Dion has a great voice and what have you, but the energy or feeling she transmits is something dull and without substance - like a hollow ostrich egg. Mick's lost the blues, the soul and his own self for wanting to be up there with the commercial and artificial orbit.

She's a Las Vegas act - has been for almost 10 years. She tried to come back to real life without succes, and returned quickly back to LV - where music isn't important, only money is.

That's not true at all, 24FPS, if you listen to EXILE and especially " Let It Loose" you will see Mick balls to the wall, letting go totally. He can still deliver a song better than any vocalist that performs live today. His delivery is the thing. At times when he's bored, it shows and he will speak the lyrics or just mess up intentionally...I think he did that a lot during the '78 Some Girls era. When Mick wants to sing, like during the 2006 shows, he was amazing....I saw versions of " As Tears Go By" that would make a grown man cry! " Worried About You", the few times that I saw him sing it, he nailed the falsetto.
Even during the 1975 tour which many folks hated and I loved, when Mick sang " Angie" and " Wild Horses" the same night in Buffalo, Aug 8 to be exact, he was untouchable! His singing was like a prayer.

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That's not true at all, 24FPS, if you listen to EXILE and especially " Let It Loose" you will see Mick balls to the wall, letting go totally. He can still deliver a song better than any vocalist that performs live today. His delivery is the thing. At times when he's bored, it shows and he will speak the lyrics or just mess up intentionally...I think he did that a lot during the '78 Some Girls era. When Mick wants to sing, like during the 2006 shows, he was amazing....I saw versions of " As Tears Go By" that would make a grown man cry! " Worried About You", the few times that I saw him sing it, he nailed the falsetto.
Even during the 1975 tour which many folks hated and I loved, when Mick sang " Angie" and " Wild Horses" the same night in Buffalo, Aug 8 to be exact, he was untouchable! His singing was like a prayer.

you're in love with him, aren't you?

I still say we're very lucky. Dave Bartram of Showaddywaddy (a few years younger than Jagger) is retiring from the band next month after 38 years as lead singer; he's still in great physical shape (like Jagger he's always been a fitness fanatic into jogging etc), but check out what's left of his voice...





...and here's how he once sounded:







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You noticed, Stones Tod!? Gee, am I that obvious?? Joking! I know I have a hard time being objective but I TRY!! Didn't my post make sense though??

yes it made total sense if you're head-over-heels in love with the guy. i wish you luck in your pursuit, too!

So, you're on a Stones site and are you saying you see no value in the lead singer of the Rolling Stones' voice? How does THAT make sense? I really am not in hot pursuit of him, I think he's very happy these days with L'wren so I'm glad about that. Of course, I'm much more his type, but what's a girl to do? JOKING!!!

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So, you're on a Stones site and are you saying you see no value in the lead singer of the Rolling Stones' voice? How does THAT make sense? I really am not in hot pursuit of him, I think he's very happy these days with L'wren so I'm glad about that. Of course, I'm much more his type, but what's a girl to do? JOKING!!!

LOL .........I really want to see your picture ...so we can decide if your more his type

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Ask Gazza for my picture.He has it.

not trying to start trouble, but gazza collects pictures....for what, i'm not sure...

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So, you're on a Stones site and are you saying you see no value in the lead singer of the Rolling Stones' voice? How does THAT make sense?

i don't have any prob with his voice, per se; it's his singing that bothers me.

Mick is/was perfect for the stones. That perfect mix of blues swagger with cockney British swish that created a unique voice for their music. Keith and Mick write with his voice in mind as well and it fits perfectly. Technically, he is not a great singer. Not a lot of range and not a lot of versatility across genres. But he is the only lead singer that would have fit for the Stones and helped create their iconic and unique sound. Mick's the man! Some of his best singing is on Exile. Let it Loose is his tour de force. Amazing.