Tell Me :
Talk
Agree, but radio and tv around here don't play them. but they do play lots of modern
country and while we think the vocals and sentiments are dumbed-down in the way you
say, the musicians seem to be able to nail it. sometimes. another example would
be dave stewart's blackbird studios band. pure country, but they come at moments
within spitting distance of an exile-type clamor...
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-21 21:32 by nocomment.
you sure it wasnt/isnt dave's keith/dave doppelganger thing?
as we said in a closely related context, hope you're right and we're wrong.
hope evry lil ting with dave is perfect Irie.
(for personal reasons, bragging, we inserting our concoction here again. we love it when
our loony musings lead to something semi-coherent...)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-21 21:52 by nocomment.
dont see how u got that we might think u were anti-dave.
just the opposite, we was saying u might be overestimating him and his situation. we a little worried about dave. needlessly?
as for "let's work" this is where NoComment is completely out to lunch. think
it is a wonderful track and an uber-great video (even though dave himself has
semi-apologized for it in a recent interview). if we was a reverend or something
like that, we would play the "let's work" video as part of our sermon at least
once a month. yes, we would lose our job as reverend but who wants to be a
reverend anyway?
we think the only reason "let's work" is hated is the same reason we ourselves
hated it for years. because fans at that time wanted stones music and stones
tour, and got exactly NOT that with "let's work". it was micks greatest
f-you ever to lazy pushy greedy...
this is how crazy NoComment is: we measure the sanity of other stones fans by
how much they love the "let's work" video.
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-22 11:06 by nocomment.
No comment. As is often the case, I get a kick out of your humor.
PRIMITIVE COOL is stronger than many Stones albums of the past 30 years. After WANDERING SPIRIT, it's my favorite Mick solo album. "Let's Work," lyrically, is a thematic cousin to "Hang Fire."
If we are going to include producers then we need to include Leonard and Phil Chess and Berry Gordy at the very least.
And Norrie Paramor!
Colonel Parker of course!
Also Larry Parnes, who managed almost every major UK rock & roll act prior to The Beatles.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-22 01:55 by Sleepy City.
Who are you talking about? Or do we have to guess?
the world ?
they always sucked
That's one solution, but also our language keeps evolving. "R&B" clearly embraces
some very "dance" and hip-hoppish music now that did not even remotely exist when
the term came into general usage. The word "rock" (without the "roll" ) has embraced
extremely non-traditional forms for more than 45 years. These days artists like
Pink and Rihanna can call themselves "rock stars" in song and everybody knows
what they mean. Phrases like "You rock!" or "She rocked that outfit" are
commonplace. Even more shockingly, from a linquistic perspective, is that you
can now say, just before you bomb a village, "let's rock and roll", and nobody
bats an eyelid. If bomber pilots can rock and roll, why can't Eminem?
thought about all those titles, all are legit and perhaps better candidates for
"most iconic track" by the named artist, but just like you, we went for the track
we would rather listen to.
(on second thought: joey changed to blitzkrieg bop)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-25 05:54 by nocomment.
to be honest i didn't pick my favorite songs by those artists i picked either the song they are most known for or when i mentioned "crazy" by willie nelson the song considered the great work by that artist
Edited 11 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-25 11:09 by nocomment.
sorry i overlooked the fact patsy was one the list. willie nelson however did not write "always on my mind"
he didnt? wow. well, everybody says he really knows how to make a song his own lol.
changing our pick to "on the road again".
had no idea that brenda lee and elvis and others did the song years before willie.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-25 10:15 by nocomment.
yes i knew it as an elvis tune first.
the link between willie nelson and that tune is probably producer chip moman. he produced nelsons album ALWAYS ON MY MIND and produced stuff for elvis. moman also co-wrote the biggest single of willie nelsons longtime friend waylon jennings in the tune "luckenbach texas( back to the basics of life)"
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Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 21, 2011 21:30
Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
As for where the closest thing to Keith could be found, I'd say in rock bands that go for a retro sound like The Black Crowes and Izzy Stradlin & the Ju-Ju Hounds if you'll turn back the clock a couple decades.
Agree, but radio and tv around here don't play them. but they do play lots of modern
country and while we think the vocals and sentiments are dumbed-down in the way you
say, the musicians seem to be able to nail it. sometimes. another example would
be dave stewart's blackbird studios band. pure country, but they come at moments
within spitting distance of an exile-type clamor...
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-21 21:32 by nocomment.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
WilliamPatrickMaynard
()
Date: October 21, 2011 21:38
Dave's Blackbird Diaries (isn't that the title?) is an excellent recent example. Don't do that again or I won't be able to joke about your Keith/Dave doppelganger thing any more.
BTW, Peter Wolf's recent albums also fit this mold. The one about ten years ago with Mick singing on Patty Loveless' "Nothing But the Wheel" makes a good comparison to "No Spare Parts" (2011).
BTW, Peter Wolf's recent albums also fit this mold. The one about ten years ago with Mick singing on Patty Loveless' "Nothing But the Wheel" makes a good comparison to "No Spare Parts" (2011).
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 21, 2011 21:49
Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
I won't be able to joke about your Keith/Dave doppelganger thing any more.
you sure it wasnt/isnt dave's keith/dave doppelganger thing?
as we said in a closely related context, hope you're right and we're wrong.
hope evry lil ting with dave is perfect Irie.
(for personal reasons, bragging, we inserting our concoction here again. we love it when
our loony musings lead to something semi-coherent...)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-21 21:52 by nocomment.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
WilliamPatrickMaynard
()
Date: October 21, 2011 21:53
I'm not a Dave Stewart hater at all. He's done a great deal of good work with Mick and others. Blaming "Let's Work" on him is just plain silly. That said, and I'll get flack for this from some courts, I maintain that if we heard the original "Let's Work" instead of the dance mix that was released on the album, it would be a far better track. I love Jagger's rhythm guitar on that song during the intro. If anyone ruined it, it was Steve Thompson and Michael Barbiero.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 21, 2011 22:05
Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
I'm not a Dave Stewart hater at all. He's done a great deal of good work with Mick and others. Blaming "Let's Work" on him is just plain silly. That said, and I'll get flack for this from some courts, I maintain that if we heard the original "Let's Work" instead of the dance mix that was released on the album, it would be a far better track. I love Jagger's rhythm guitar on that song during the intro. If anyone ruined it, it was Steve Thompson and Michael Barbiero.
dont see how u got that we might think u were anti-dave.
just the opposite, we was saying u might be overestimating him and his situation. we a little worried about dave. needlessly?
as for "let's work" this is where NoComment is completely out to lunch. think
it is a wonderful track and an uber-great video (even though dave himself has
semi-apologized for it in a recent interview). if we was a reverend or something
like that, we would play the "let's work" video as part of our sermon at least
once a month. yes, we would lose our job as reverend but who wants to be a
reverend anyway?
we think the only reason "let's work" is hated is the same reason we ourselves
hated it for years. because fans at that time wanted stones music and stones
tour, and got exactly NOT that with "let's work". it was micks greatest
f-you ever to lazy pushy greedy...
this is how crazy NoComment is: we measure the sanity of other stones fans by
how much they love the "let's work" video.
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-22 11:06 by nocomment.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
WilliamPatrickMaynard
()
Date: October 21, 2011 22:31
Quote
nocomment
if we was a reverend or something like that, we would play the "let's work" video as part of our sermon at least once a month. yes, we would lose our job as reverend but who wants to be a reverend anyway?
No comment. As is often the case, I get a kick out of your humor.
Quote
nocomment
we think the only reason "let's work" is hated is the same reason we ourselves
hated it for years. because fans at that time wanted stones music and stones
tour, and got exactly NOT that with "let's work". it was micks greatest
f-you ever to lazy pushy greedy...
PRIMITIVE COOL is stronger than many Stones albums of the past 30 years. After WANDERING SPIRIT, it's my favorite Mick solo album. "Let's Work," lyrically, is a thematic cousin to "Hang Fire."
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
Happy Jack
()
Date: October 21, 2011 23:35
Quote
nocommentQuote
Sleepy City
No Sam Phillips???
another big big one. and jerry lee and johnny and elvis will have to represent sam
proudly, just like mick and keith do jimmy and john and paul do george martin.
If we are going to include producers then we need to include Leonard and Phil Chess and Berry Gordy at the very least.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: October 22, 2011 00:52
Quote
Happy JackQuote
nocommentQuote
Sleepy City
No Sam Phillips???
another big big one. and jerry lee and johnny and elvis will have to represent sam
proudly, just like mick and keith do jimmy and john and paul do george martin.
If we are going to include producers then we need to include Leonard and Phil Chess and Berry Gordy at the very least.
And Norrie Paramor!
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
bob r
()
Date: October 22, 2011 01:17
While we're talking about musicians, Bands and Producers who should be in the Hall of Fame, what about Managers??? there are certainly a few who were larger than life and had a major hand in the careers of their artists:
Brian Epstein
Allen Klein (love him or hate him )
Andrew Loog Oldham
David Geffen
Albert Grossman
Anyone think of any other ?
Brian Epstein
Allen Klein (love him or hate him )
Andrew Loog Oldham
David Geffen
Albert Grossman
Anyone think of any other ?
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: October 22, 2011 01:54
Quote
bob r
While we're talking about musicians, Bands and Producers who should be in the Hall of Fame, what about Managers??? there are certainly a few who were larger than life and had a major hand in the careers of their artists:
Brian Epstein
Allen Klein (love him or hate him )
Andrew Loog Oldham
David Geffen
Albert Grossman
Anyone think of any other ?
Colonel Parker of course!
Also Larry Parnes, who managed almost every major UK rock & roll act prior to The Beatles.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-22 01:55 by Sleepy City.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
loog droog
()
Date: October 22, 2011 03:19
Funny, here I am bring up Chicago again, when I don't own any of their records.
But I did see the Behind the Music episode about them, and the guy who discovered them, named them and produced all their early albums, James William Guercio should be in the RnR HoF, not just for being an ace producer, but also for being an extraordinarily stand-up guy.
According to the show, when they decided they didn't want to work with him anymore, he just walked away. No hassle, no money fight. He didn't try to sue them or anything, even though he did have legal standing to.
Compare that to the management/money hell the Stones, Springsteen, Billy Joel, etc., etc. have been though.
How many bands are that lucky?
But I did see the Behind the Music episode about them, and the guy who discovered them, named them and produced all their early albums, James William Guercio should be in the RnR HoF, not just for being an ace producer, but also for being an extraordinarily stand-up guy.
According to the show, when they decided they didn't want to work with him anymore, he just walked away. No hassle, no money fight. He didn't try to sue them or anything, even though he did have legal standing to.
Compare that to the management/money hell the Stones, Springsteen, Billy Joel, etc., etc. have been though.
How many bands are that lucky?
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
straycatdevil
()
Date: October 22, 2011 03:25
KISS. Like them or not they were the most popular band in the world in late'76-'77. This is the rock and roll hall of "fame". Besides, they rocked!
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
Max'sKansasCity
()
Date: October 22, 2011 03:28
...and dont forget all the families,
Mothers, Fauzzers, brothers and sisters who bought them their first guitars, school teachers, kindly neighbors, Uncle Alberts.... they should all get in too.
Mothers, Fauzzers, brothers and sisters who bought them their first guitars, school teachers, kindly neighbors, Uncle Alberts.... they should all get in too.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 22, 2011 08:57
Quote
nocomment
REVISED
next 72 most iconic figure in 20th century popular music, mostly
from your suggestions. some of your suggestions may even be better
than these, but we didnt know enough to venture an opinion. no pic.
(in no particular order)
Brian Epstein
Allen Klein
Andrew Loog Oldham
David Geffen
Jimmy Miller
Albert Grossman
Colonel Tom Parker
Berry Gordy
Phil Chess
Leonard Chess
Gene Vincent
Nelson Riddle
Henry Mancini
Harry Belafonte
Big Mama Thorton
Jimmy Cliff
Bessie Smith
Bono
Jerry Garcia
Lou Reid
Iggy Pop
George Harrison
Johnny Rotten
Sly Stone
Diana Ross
Charlie Parker
Smokey Robinson
Judy Garland
Eric Clapton
Freddy Mercury
Bing Crosby
Marvin Gaye
Fats Domino
Toots Hibbert
Scott Joplin
Pete Townshend
Jim Morrison
Jerry Garcia
George Gershwin
Les Paul
Enrico Caruso
Luciano Pavarotti
Maria Callas
Joan Sutherland
Maybelle Carter
Leonard Bernstein
Irving Berlin
Richard Rodgers
Oscar Hammerstein
Willie Dixon
John Williams
Burt Bacharach
Count Basie
John Cage
George Martin
Sam Phillips
Neil Young
Dick Dale
Joni Mitchell
Cher
Carole King
Britney Spears
Alanis Morissette
Dolly Parton
Joan Baez
Tony Bennett
Ronnie Spector
Janet Jackson
Johnny Mathis
Ricky Nelson
Patti Page
Glenn Miller
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 22, 2011 09:52
>> The 50 Most Iconic Figures in 20th Century Popular Music
>> next 72 most iconic figure
Thus, by establishing this new "museum", NoComment has demonstrated
approximately how the rock and roll hall of fame should operate. A first tier,
of "immortals" if you will, for whom there should be stricter rules and some kind
of meaningful consensus. And then a second tier who need only be supported by
a significant passionate minority.
>> next 72 most iconic figure
Thus, by establishing this new "museum", NoComment has demonstrated
approximately how the rock and roll hall of fame should operate. A first tier,
of "immortals" if you will, for whom there should be stricter rules and some kind
of meaningful consensus. And then a second tier who need only be supported by
a significant passionate minority.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: October 22, 2011 09:58
Quote
loog droog
Funny, here I am bring up Chicago again, when I don't own any of their records.
But I did see the Behind the Music episode about them, and the guy who discovered them, named them and produced all their early albums, James William Guercio should be in the RnR HoF, not just for being an ace producer, but also for being an extraordinarily stand-up guy.
According to the show, when they decided they didn't want to work with him anymore, he just walked away. No hassle, no money fight. He didn't try to sue them or anything, even though he did have legal standing to.
Compare that to the management/money hell the Stones, Springsteen, Billy Joel, etc., etc. have been though.
How many bands are that lucky?
Who are you talking about? Or do we have to guess?
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 24, 2011 16:58
Nothing else to do at the moment, so here it is, off the top of our heads
mostly, the 50 in order, most iconic to least, with usually their most
iconic track, unless we hated that track and substituted another.
With Streisand, we had to go really deep to get to something stomachable.
Serving also as the running order for the triple CD "exile on fame street",
ready for enclosure in the time capsule or spacecraft of your choice.
Remember, not ranked by how good they are, or how popular or influential,
but rather by their "iconic-ness", their inescapability, their mythological heft
and (to a lesser extent) their representation of an important trend or school
of 20th century popular music.
1. Elvis Presley -- Hound Dog
2. Mick Jagger -- Brown Sugar
3. Frank Sinatra -- My Way
4. Michael Jackson -- Beat It
5. John Lennon -- Imagine
6. Paul McCartney -- Hey Jude
7. Bob Dylan -- Like A Rolling Stone
8. Bob Marley -- Get Up Stand Up
9. James Brown -- I Feel Good
10. Hank Williams -- I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry
11. Jimi Hendrix -- All Along The Watchtower
12. Keith Richards -- (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
13. Johnny Cash -- Ring of Fire
14. Ray Charles -- What'd I Say
15. Aretha Franklin -- Chain of Fools
16. Robert Johnson -- Hellhound On My Trail
17. Chuck Berry -- Johnny B Goode
18. Buddy Holly -- Peggy Sue
19. Patsy Cline -- Crazy
20. Louis Armstrong -- St. Louis Blues
21. Bruce Springsteen -- Born To Run
22. Eminem -- Lose Yourself
23. Madonna -- Like A Virgin
24. Prince -- Purple Rain
25. Nat King Cole -- Unforgettable
26. Jimmy Page -- Rock and Roll
27. Willie Nelson -- On The Road Again
28. Muddy Waters -- Mannish Boy
29. Stevie Wonder -- Isn't She Lovely
30. Duke Ellington -- Take The A Train
31. Brian Wilson -- Good Vibrations
32. Woody Guthrie -- This Land Is Your Land
33. Phil Spector -- Be My Baby
34. Tammy Wynette -- Stand By Your Man
35. Elton John -- Your Song
36. David Bowie -- Let's Dance
37. BB King -- The Thrill Is Gone
38. Ella Fitzgerald -- Baby It's Cold Outside
39. The Edge -- Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
40. Jerry Lee Lewis -- Whole Lotta Shaking Going On
41. Janis Joplin -- Piece Of My Heart
42. Little Richard -- Tutti Frutti
43. Kurt Cobain -- Smells Like Teen Spirit
44. Tina Turner -- What's Love Got To Do With It
45. Cole Porter -- Got You Under My Skin
46. Barbra Streisand -- Stoney End
47. Miles Davis -- Round About Midnight
48. Joey Ramone -- Blitzkrieg Bop
49. Angus Young -- You Shook Me All Night Long
50. Billie Holiday -- Lady Sings The Blues
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-25 16:28 by nocomment.
mostly, the 50 in order, most iconic to least, with usually their most
iconic track, unless we hated that track and substituted another.
With Streisand, we had to go really deep to get to something stomachable.
Serving also as the running order for the triple CD "exile on fame street",
ready for enclosure in the time capsule or spacecraft of your choice.
Remember, not ranked by how good they are, or how popular or influential,
but rather by their "iconic-ness", their inescapability, their mythological heft
and (to a lesser extent) their representation of an important trend or school
of 20th century popular music.
1. Elvis Presley -- Hound Dog
2. Mick Jagger -- Brown Sugar
3. Frank Sinatra -- My Way
4. Michael Jackson -- Beat It
5. John Lennon -- Imagine
6. Paul McCartney -- Hey Jude
7. Bob Dylan -- Like A Rolling Stone
8. Bob Marley -- Get Up Stand Up
9. James Brown -- I Feel Good
10. Hank Williams -- I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry
11. Jimi Hendrix -- All Along The Watchtower
12. Keith Richards -- (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
13. Johnny Cash -- Ring of Fire
14. Ray Charles -- What'd I Say
15. Aretha Franklin -- Chain of Fools
16. Robert Johnson -- Hellhound On My Trail
17. Chuck Berry -- Johnny B Goode
18. Buddy Holly -- Peggy Sue
19. Patsy Cline -- Crazy
20. Louis Armstrong -- St. Louis Blues
21. Bruce Springsteen -- Born To Run
22. Eminem -- Lose Yourself
23. Madonna -- Like A Virgin
24. Prince -- Purple Rain
25. Nat King Cole -- Unforgettable
26. Jimmy Page -- Rock and Roll
27. Willie Nelson -- On The Road Again
28. Muddy Waters -- Mannish Boy
29. Stevie Wonder -- Isn't She Lovely
30. Duke Ellington -- Take The A Train
31. Brian Wilson -- Good Vibrations
32. Woody Guthrie -- This Land Is Your Land
33. Phil Spector -- Be My Baby
34. Tammy Wynette -- Stand By Your Man
35. Elton John -- Your Song
36. David Bowie -- Let's Dance
37. BB King -- The Thrill Is Gone
38. Ella Fitzgerald -- Baby It's Cold Outside
39. The Edge -- Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
40. Jerry Lee Lewis -- Whole Lotta Shaking Going On
41. Janis Joplin -- Piece Of My Heart
42. Little Richard -- Tutti Frutti
43. Kurt Cobain -- Smells Like Teen Spirit
44. Tina Turner -- What's Love Got To Do With It
45. Cole Porter -- Got You Under My Skin
46. Barbra Streisand -- Stoney End
47. Miles Davis -- Round About Midnight
48. Joey Ramone -- Blitzkrieg Bop
49. Angus Young -- You Shook Me All Night Long
50. Billie Holiday -- Lady Sings The Blues
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Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
()
Date: October 24, 2011 18:35
ok you need to change the songs by:
joey ramone- blitzkrieg bop
hank williams- move it on over
robert johnson- crossroad blues
tina turner- proud mary
david bowie- ????
willie nelson- crazy or one the road again
joey ramone- blitzkrieg bop
hank williams- move it on over
robert johnson- crossroad blues
tina turner- proud mary
david bowie- ????
willie nelson- crazy or one the road again
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
duke richardson
()
Date: October 24, 2011 20:59
The Blasters should be in it.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
andy js
()
Date: October 24, 2011 21:09
Quote
straycatdevil
KISS. Like them or not they were the most popular band in the world in late'76-'77. This is the rock and roll hall of "fame". Besides, they rocked!
the world ?
they always sucked
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
Max'sKansasCity
()
Date: October 24, 2011 21:15
As has been said several times, and illustrated by numerous posts here, it is NOT a real RNRHOF, it is far from it. I am not even sure how they wrangled that name, or concept, but time has come (long past due) for a name change, and cut the crap.Quote
straycatdevil
This is the rock and roll hall of "fame".
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 25, 2011 04:13
Quote
Max'sKansasCityAs has been said several times, and illustrated by numerous posts here, it is NOT a real RNRHOF, it is far from it. I am not even sure how they wrangled that name, or concept, but time has come (long past due) for a name change, and cut the crap.Quote
straycatdevil
This is the rock and roll hall of "fame".
That's one solution, but also our language keeps evolving. "R&B" clearly embraces
some very "dance" and hip-hoppish music now that did not even remotely exist when
the term came into general usage. The word "rock" (without the "roll" ) has embraced
extremely non-traditional forms for more than 45 years. These days artists like
Pink and Rihanna can call themselves "rock stars" in song and everybody knows
what they mean. Phrases like "You rock!" or "She rocked that outfit" are
commonplace. Even more shockingly, from a linquistic perspective, is that you
can now say, just before you bomb a village, "let's rock and roll", and nobody
bats an eyelid. If bomber pilots can rock and roll, why can't Eminem?
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 25, 2011 04:18
Quote
keefriffhard4life
ok you need to change the songs by:
joey ramone- blitzkrieg bop
hank williams- move it on over
robert johnson- crossroad blues
tina turner- proud mary
willie nelson- on the road again
thought about all those titles, all are legit and perhaps better candidates for
"most iconic track" by the named artist, but just like you, we went for the track
we would rather listen to.
(on second thought: joey changed to blitzkrieg bop)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-25 05:54 by nocomment.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
()
Date: October 25, 2011 08:14
Quote
nocommentQuote
keefriffhard4life
ok you need to change the songs by:
joey ramone- blitzkrieg bop
hank williams- move it on over
robert johnson- crossroad blues
tina turner- proud mary
willie nelson- on the road again
thought about all those titles, all are legit and perhaps better candidates for
"most iconic track" by the named artist, but just like you, we went for the track
we would rather listen to.
(on second thought: joey changed to blitzkrieg bop)
to be honest i didn't pick my favorite songs by those artists i picked either the song they are most known for or when i mentioned "crazy" by willie nelson the song considered the great work by that artist
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 25, 2011 09:27
duplicate post deleted
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Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: October 25, 2011 09:32
Quote
nocommentQuote
keefriffhard4lifeQuote
nocommentQuote
keefriffhard4life
ok you need to change the songs by:
joey ramone- blitzkrieg bop
hank williams- move it on over
robert johnson- crossroad blues
tina turner- proud mary
willie nelson- on the road again
thought about all those titles, all are legit and perhaps better candidates for
"most iconic track" by the named artist, but just like you, we went for the track
we would rather listen to.
(on second thought: joey changed to blitzkrieg bop)
to be honest i didn't pick my favorite songs by those artists i picked either the song they are most known for or when i mentioned "crazy" by willie nelson the song considered the great work by that artist
well "crazy" we agree on in a sense, but patsy cline has it already on the list.
(making willie the composer of two songs on the list, along with jagger
richards dylan and lennon.) agree "on the road again" slightly more iconic than
"always on my mind" but the latter gives us goosebumps. agree "proud mary" is
clearly more iconic, just sick of it. but still think "hellhound" and "so
lonesome i could cry" are more iconic, but not absolutely certain, so we
just went with our preference.
can't stand the hugely iconic "stairway to heaven" but perhaps should go
with "rock and roll" over "whole lotta love"?
wonder if there will ever be another century when so many icons will also
be known for their composing and/or instrumental skills. not judging by
the 21st so far. think it would be much more "natural" in a video era for
icons to be mostly just singers like elvis and sinatra and madonna and rihanna.
this list of ours is quite dominated by composer/performers.
the masses have to be fairly awake to prefer/give credit to composers,
and they are deep in slumber so far this century.
that's one interesting and conservative thing about rap so far. it is
demanded that the performer write their own words. strictly too.
is there any instance yet of someone charting by rapping someone
else's rhymes?
there's been a few novelty "alternative folk" versions of famous rap
songs, but none have charted that we can think of.
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Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
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Date: October 25, 2011 09:34
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Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
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Date: October 25, 2011 09:59
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ok you need to change the songs by:
joey ramone- blitzkrieg bop
hank williams- move it on over
robert johnson- crossroad blues
tina turner- proud mary
willie nelson- on the road again
thought about all those titles, all are legit and perhaps better candidates for
"most iconic track" by the named artist, but just like you, we went for the track
we would rather listen to.
(on second thought: joey changed to blitzkrieg bop)
to be honest i didn't pick my favorite songs by those artists i picked either the song they are most known for or when i mentioned "crazy" by willie nelson the song considered the great work by that artist
well "crazy" we agree on in a sense, but patsy cline has it already on the list.
(making willie the composer of two songs on the list, along with jagger
richards dylan and lennon.) agree "on the road again" slightly more iconic than
"always on my mind" but the latter gives us goosebumps. agree "proud mary" is
clearly more iconic, just sick of it. but still think "hellhound" and "so
lonesome i could cry" are more iconic, but not absolutely certain, so we
just went with our preference.
sorry i overlooked the fact patsy was one the list. willie nelson however did not write "always on my mind"
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
nocomment
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Date: October 25, 2011 10:02
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keefriffhard4life
sorry i overlooked the fact patsy was one the list. willie nelson however did not write "always on my mind"
he didnt? wow. well, everybody says he really knows how to make a song his own lol.
changing our pick to "on the road again".
had no idea that brenda lee and elvis and others did the song years before willie.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-10-25 10:15 by nocomment.
Re: OT: Artists Who Are NOT In The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: October 25, 2011 11:25
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sorry i overlooked the fact patsy was one the list. willie nelson however did not write "always on my mind"
he didnt? wow. well, everybody says he really knows how to make a song his own lol.
changing our pick to "on the road again".
had no idea that brenda lee and elvis and others did the song years before willie.
yes i knew it as an elvis tune first.
the link between willie nelson and that tune is probably producer chip moman. he produced nelsons album ALWAYS ON MY MIND and produced stuff for elvis. moman also co-wrote the biggest single of willie nelsons longtime friend waylon jennings in the tune "luckenbach texas( back to the basics of life)"
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