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keefriffhard4life
what i can give you is several links to forums where people agree with me its cheating. public opinion is it was wrong and its a form of cheating
edit: also i like your argument. its only cheating if you win every game. wtf does that mean??
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Max'sKansasCity
The money is a moot point.
Huh? they tossed the head coach of The Saints for a year, they tossed the defensive coach forever and they took away 2 drafts picks. It seems the bounty money is the main point. [espn.go.com]
In my opinion there is no room in the NFL game to pay players extra money to injure other players. As I said when I first read/posted about his, if people and players want the rules to allows paying bounties to injure others then the NFL will not have a game within 3-4 years because there will be no players left. Can you imagine the carnage?
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Max'sKansasCity
The money is a moot point.
Huh? they tossed the head coach of The Saints for a year, they tossed the defensive coach forever and they took away 2 drafts picks. It seems the bounty money is the main point. [espn.go.com]
In my opinion there is no room in the NFL game to pay players extra money to injure other players. As I said when I first read/posted about his, if people and players want the rules to allows paying bounties to injure others then the NFL will not have a game within 3-4 years because there will be no players left. Can you imagine the carnage?
The so called bounty money is what I was talking about. Seriously, how could any player think that is worth pursuing when the fines are equivalent to the average US citizen buying an expensive automobile? They're not that rich, the players.
Coach Payton is essentially being fined $8 million for this. Goodell is a jerk. Bellachuck got one game for cheating. That idiot NY Giant got one year for killing someone... this makes zero sense.
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Max'sKansasCity
The money is a moot point.
Huh? they tossed the head coach of The Saints for a year, they tossed the defensive coach forever and they took away 2 drafts picks. It seems the bounty money is the main point. [espn.go.com]
In my opinion there is no room in the NFL game to pay players extra money to injure other players. As I said when I first read/posted about his, if people and players want the rules to allows paying bounties to injure others then the NFL will not have a game within 3-4 years because there will be no players left. Can you imagine the carnage?
The so called bounty money is what I was talking about. Seriously, how could any player think that is worth pursuing when the fines are equivalent to the average US citizen buying an expensive automobile? They're not that rich, the players.
Coach Payton is essentially being fined $8 million for this. Goodell is a jerk. Bellachuck got one game for cheating. That idiot NY Giant got one year for killing someone... this makes zero sense.
It is no longer "so called" bounty money, they proofed it, and found them guilty.
Not sure what you mean by the size of the fines. The 8 million Dollars is huge and the loss of a head coach could be fatal(for a while).... The cost of 2 draft picks taken away?... how do we put a value on that? The team being fined $500,000, that is a drop a drop in the bucket... and I am not sure what fines will be put on individual players who took money, I think I read they are still looking.... but imuho I think they should sit for an entire year too... with the main objective being send the message DONT TAKE BOUNTY MONEY to hurt players.
As far as Stallworth DUI killing that person and not being banned forever, that is just sad commentary on the 1%ers being able to buy their way out of manslaughter. If a normal person had DUI killed like that, they would still be in jail. period. For all the fkg BS ads and hullaballoo about dont drink and drive blah blah... I guess it only applies to poor schmucks.... just sad sad sad commentary on how things really are.
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
They PROVED it. With 18,000 pages of...what? Williams screwed the team over by writing things down. He turned the Saints into a casino.
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Natlanta
thus the name - Taints.
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Max'sKansasCity
Ok I see what you meant, the regular season fines for harsh hits.yeah....Quote
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
They PROVED it. With 18,000 pages of...what? Williams screwed the team over by writing things down. He turned the Saints into a casino.
One might have thought people would have learned with the Nixon tapes it is just a bad idea, if you are going to be bad, to record anything about you being bad.
For the record... I lost a lot of respect for the NFL fining/chastising anybody the day they destroyed the tapes/evidence in the Patriots cheating case.
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Gregg Williams keeping a list. Genius. That's just great. The way it sounds so far is the Loomis and Payton possibly didn't believe it was going on. That's what it seems like anyway. Hence the lack of action. The Patriots thing though... they made that go away real fast huh.
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Natlanta
thus the name - Taints.
Clever.
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Natlanta
thus the name - Taints.
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stonescrow
They should be stripped of their Super Bowl title!
Blame it on Jeremy Shockey.He's the rat bastard who snitched.Quote
Edith Grove
Let's not forget the fans are losing in this penalty scheme, as well.
Goodell, or whatever the @#$%& his name is, waited until after the season-ticket deadline to announce these crippling penalties.
This Goodell @#$%& should be running for public office with a mindset like that.
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sweetcharmedlife
Bottom line. Trying to intentionally hurt someone to the point they are knocked out of the game.Is not only unsportsmanlike.But incredibly stupid. These guys are already making millions of dollars. A couple thousand more will motivate them? What if it was them who got knocked out.Had their careers cut short.Risked permanent injury? Plus, they were warned multiple times to knock it off.Then lied when asked about it. Not to mention the fact the Saints still had a shitty defense anyway. Here's a crazy thought. You go out there and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. With some class and dignity and respect for your fellow player. Saints deserve everything they got and more.
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thus the name - Taints.
They should be stripped of their Super Bowl title!
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sweetcharmedlifeBlame it on Jeremy Shockey.He's the rat bastard who snitched.Quote
Edith Grove
Let's not forget the fans are losing in this penalty scheme, as well.
Goodell, or whatever the @#$%& his name is, waited until after the season-ticket deadline to announce these crippling penalties.
This Goodell @#$%& should be running for public office with a mindset like that.
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sweetcharmedlife
Bottom line. Trying to intentionally hurt someone to the point they are knocked out of the game.Is not only unsportsmanlike.But incredibly stupid. These guys are already making millions of dollars. A couple thousand more will motivate them? What if it was them who got knocked out.Had their careers cut short.Risked permanent injury? Plus, they were warned multiple times to knock it off.Then lied when asked about it. Not to mention the fact the Saints still had a shitty defense anyway. Here's a crazy thought. You go out there and play the game the way it's supposed to be played. With some class and dignity and respect for your fellow player. Saints deserve everything they got and more.
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Huh. Who'd of thunk.
Green Bay Packers players no longer can offer teammates financial incentives for their on-field performance, but the NFL will not punish them for violating the league's "bounty rule."
[www.usatoday.com]
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Huh. Who'd of thunk.
Green Bay Packers players no longer can offer teammates financial incentives for their on-field performance, but the NFL will not punish them for violating the league's "bounty rule."
[www.usatoday.com]
Wonderful.
Ever get the feeling that the league doesn't want to let a host team win the Superbowl ?
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Huh. Who'd of thunk.
Green Bay Packers players no longer can offer teammates financial incentives for their on-field performance, but the NFL will not punish them for violating the league's "bounty rule."
[www.usatoday.com]
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gimmelittledrink
What the Patriots did was much worse than this silly Bounty thing.
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Huh. Who'd of thunk.
Green Bay Packers players no longer can offer teammates financial incentives for their on-field performance, but the NFL will not punish them for violating the league's "bounty rule."
[www.usatoday.com]
where did it say they got paid to hurt someone?