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Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: klrkcr ()
Date: May 19, 2011 07:37

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Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

Id also tie in Keith's cigarette use with the grog.If he really chain smoked as much as has been written - wouldnt his lungs be charcoal by now?.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: May 19, 2011 07:48

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One of the funniest is the myth of the X-rated scenes of Mick and Marianne in PERFORMANCE winning a porn film prize in Amsterdam. Seemingly no such a tape nor the porn festival does not exist.

- Doxa

That would be mythical indeed, seeing as Marianne was in Ireland the whole time, and nowhere near the set of Performance.

I distinctly recall an interview with Stu where he stated that such a film (featuring Anita) did win an award at an Amsterdam film festival.

Okay, perhaps I did a mistake in names. I stand to be corrected. But what goes for the actual 'film' and the film festival, I 've been quite convinced by some contributors here who live in the city mentioned that there didn't exist any such film festivals during the time. Besides Anita denies him and Mick having actual sex during the shooting but that does not convince anyonegrinning smiley.

- Doxa



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Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: May 19, 2011 07:51

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One of the funniest is the myth of the X-rated scenes of Mick and Marianne in PERFORMANCE winning a porn film prize in Amsterdam. Seemingly no such a tape nor the porn festival does not exist.

- Doxa

That would be mythical indeed, seeing as Marianne was in Ireland the whole time, and nowhere near the set of Performance.

I distinctly recall an interview with Stu where he stated that such a film (featuring Anita) did win an award at an Amsterdam film festival.

Okay, perhaps I did a mistake in names. I stand to be corrected. But what goes for the actual 'film' and the film festival, I 've been quite convinced by some contributors here who live in the city mentioned that there didn't exist any such film festivals during the time. Besides Anita denies him and Mick having actual sex during the shooting but that does not convince anyonegrinning smiley.

- Doxa

Yes, and we all know about Anita's close r'ship with the truth.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: May 19, 2011 07:54

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That would be mythical indeed, seeing as Marianne was in Ireland the whole time, and nowhere near the set of Performance.

But according to one quite recent myth this pregnant woman was having sex with Keith Richards at the time... there supposed to be his socks as evidence...

- Doxa

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: May 19, 2011 08:00

Keith says it was his idea to record Exile while "living above the factory" and that this arrangement helped him work as hard as he did. Bill Wyman says that after several band members drove for hours to get to the sessions, Keith would often not even bother to come downstairs. Keith says the place was a beehive of creative activity. Mick counted down the tracks recorded at Nellcote, and came up with exactly nine in nine months of work (that's an average of one a month, for those keeping track, and they still had to do all the overdubs later). Of course I don't really care because the final result was so wonderful, but it's a good illustration of Stones myths and myth-making.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: May 19, 2011 08:01

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That would be mythical indeed, seeing as Marianne was in Ireland the whole time, and nowhere near the set of Performance.

But according to one quite recent myth this pregnant woman was having sex with Keith Richards at the time... there supposed to be his socks as evidence...

- Doxa

Another myth uncovered, recently minted, but valid nonetheless!

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: May 19, 2011 08:55

That Brian, or Keith, or both, played "Popeye The Sailorman" live on stage in the 1960s because they knew nobody could hear them for all that screaming.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 19, 2011 14:54

I know it's probably just Keith's ego talking, but his supposed get back at Mick by banging Marianne could have happened after Performance in early 1969 or something. He doesn't specifically say it happened during the filming of Performance right?

Anyway, Marianne as good as confirmed it's bullshit by saying "It's Keith's truth". grinning smiley

Marianne looked hotter in 1966 than 1969 anyway, so if Marianne is telling the truth, Keith actually got in there before Mick when she was fresh and beautiful in late 1966.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: mickjagger1009 ()
Date: May 19, 2011 17:12

Here is the Stones "weaving" in "modern" times, on a new song too (new at the time).





"You'll be studying history and you'll be down the gym. And I'll be down the pub, probably playing pool and drinking."

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: May 19, 2011 17:31

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Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

Id also tie in Keith's cigarette use with the grog.If he really chain smoked as much as has been written - wouldnt his lungs be charcoal by now?.

Maybe he doesn't inhale, that would explain it for sure.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 19, 2011 17:35

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Weaving

thank you. if i read or hear anymore about this ancient art of weaving baloney i may have to weave myself....

Weaving between Richards and Wood happened on exactly one album: Some Girls. After that it was just the "ancient art of playing twice as loud as the other guy" or "the ancient art of someone covering my guitar parts". In other words, the ancient art of bvllshit.

Sorry about the edits. I'm bad at the ancient art of typing.

Some songs on ER have that, Dance (1 and 2), Down In The Hole and just about all of the '78 tour. I do agree, though, I'm tired of hearing about it, especially since it's only on a few tunes (record-wise).

i know this sounds like a recording...but the idea that the stones guitarists have ever done anything different than any two musicians (or more) who play together do is preposterous. all musicians play off of one another - that's the WHOLE POINT. to hear keith talk about it, you'd think they'd invented a new way of playing music.



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Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: May 19, 2011 23:11

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Elmo

But, did MJ really bite off the end of his tongue when doing a forward roll during a gym exercise - this was meant to have something to do with his unique singing style!

Mick bit off the tip of his tongue in a gymnastics accident.

<<Mick Jagger is such a perfect actor that even if you miss a few words he makes you understand what he is saying<<
According to Tony Scaduto , Mick liked what the accident did to his diction. It made him sound "blacker"

MHF&M 1975 issue



I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: May 19, 2011 23:22

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Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

Id also tie in Keith's cigarette use with the grog.If he really chain smoked as much as has been written - wouldnt his lungs be charcoal by now?.

Maybe he doesn't inhale, that would explain it for sure.

It's ironic...they were so contemptuous of Dean Martin's act featuring chainsmoking and drunken behaviour onstage, and now Keith seems to be channeling him.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: May 20, 2011 01:24

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Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

Id also tie in Keith's cigarette use with the grog.If he really chain smoked as much as has been written - wouldnt his lungs be charcoal by now?.

Maybe he doesn't inhale, that would explain it for sure.

It's ironic...they were so contemptuous of Dean Martin's act featuring chainsmoking and drunken behaviour onstage, and now Keith seems to be channeling him.

Agee, Keith needs an onstage and media persona. Makes one wonder is/was it really Jack Daniels in the bottle or some

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: May 20, 2011 01:27

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Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

Id also tie in Keith's cigarette use with the grog.If he really chain smoked as much as has been written - wouldnt his lungs be charcoal by now?.

Maybe he doesn't inhale, that would explain it for sure.

It's ironic...they were so contemptuous of Dean Martin's act featuring chainsmoking and drunken behaviour onstage, and now Keith seems to be channeling him.

Agee, Keith needs an onstage and media persona. Makes one wonder is/was it really Jack Daniels in the bottle or some very dark tea?

If you have the Voodoo Lounge concert video, at then end of the show Keith is in the van talking about how hot it is under the lights while he's drinking a tall bottle of Evian water.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: marvpeck ()
Date: May 20, 2011 02:29

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Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

Id also tie in Keith's cigarette use with the grog.If he really chain smoked as much as has been written - wouldnt his lungs be charcoal by now?.

Maybe he doesn't inhale, that would explain it for sure.

Have you heard Keith laugh? I'd say he inhales

Marv Peck

Y'all remember that rubber legged boy

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: marvpeck ()
Date: May 20, 2011 02:31

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Did really Charlie hit Mick in the face? Did Keith snort the ashes of his deceased father?


I really want the story about Charlie to be true.

Marv Peck

Y'all remember that rubber legged boy

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: May 20, 2011 05:38

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Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

Id also tie in Keith's cigarette use with the grog.If he really chain smoked as much as has been written - wouldnt his lungs be charcoal by now?.

Maybe he doesn't inhale, that would explain it for sure.

Have you heard Keith laugh? I'd say he inhales

Yes, I've heard him laugh but why doesn't he have a "smoker cough"? You never see him have a coughing fit on stage or in the middle of his set.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: May 20, 2011 05:46

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Sam Spade
Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

OK, assuming Keith is Dean Martin, then who is Frank Sinatra? Mick most certainly.

Ronnie Wood could be Sammy Davis.

Charlie...ummm, Peter Lawford?

Bill Wyman, Joey Bishop?

I can't think of one for Brian....maybe Angie Dickenson?

As for Mick Taylor...now I'm totally lost.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 20, 2011 05:50

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Yes, I've heard him laugh but why doesn't he have a "smoker cough"? You never see him have a coughing fit on stage or in the middle of his set.

You know, that is a good question!

Every old bastid I know that's smoked for decades often cough and splutter or clear their throat making lots of disgusting sounds.

Maybe Keith gave up heavy smoking years ago, but likes to keep up the image.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: May 20, 2011 05:56

Q107 the Toronto radio station did a show on this topic recently. I think it was called just that too.

One thing I remember hearing was the rumor about Mick sleeping with David Bowie where Bowies girlfriend is said to have walked in on them "sleeping" together in bed.

Also Mick and Mick Taylor have an affair together.

I also caught the one about the kid on the cover of Sticky Fingers, everyone thought it was Andy Worhol but it was this other guy Tony something I think. I'll have to recall that one.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: May 20, 2011 12:56

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Yes, I've heard him laugh but why doesn't he have a "smoker cough"? You never see him have a coughing fit on stage or in the middle of his set.

You know, that is a good question!

Every old bastid I know that's smoked for decades often cough and splutter or clear their throat making lots of disgusting sounds.

Maybe Keith gave up heavy smoking years ago, but likes to keep up the image.

"You want Keith? I'll give you Keith. It may not always be me, but people want to believe it."

(Keith in the interview proudmary posted here):

[www.iorr.org]

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: May 20, 2011 14:03

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Keith's actual alcohol intake over the years. His liver should be hamburger by now, plus he would truly be an alcoholic.

Keith is to the Stones what Dean Martin was to the Rat Pack.

OK, assuming Keith is Dean Martin, then who is Frank Sinatra? Mick most certainly.

Ronnie Wood could be Sammy Davis.

Charlie...ummm, Peter Lawford?

Bill Wyman, Joey Bishop?

I can't think of one for Brian....maybe Angie Dickenson?

As for Mick Taylor...now I'm totally lost.

The analogy of Keith and Dean Martin refers to Keith's image of drinking, it has NOTHING to do with the rest of the band.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: May 20, 2011 14:08

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Yes, I've heard him laugh but why doesn't he have a "smoker cough"? You never see him have a coughing fit on stage or in the middle of his set.

You know, that is a good question!

Every old bastid I know that's smoked for decades often cough and splutter or clear their throat making lots of disgusting sounds.

Maybe Keith gave up heavy smoking years ago, but likes to keep up the image.

As I said earlier, maybe he doesn't inhale. I'm sure he did at one time but look at him onstage how many cigarettes does he actually finish. Most times he tosses them after a few drags.

Ronnie smokes as well, yet he doesn't have a raspy voice when he speaks, plus he never has coughing fits either onstage.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Sam Spade ()
Date: May 20, 2011 14:10

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Yes, I've heard him laugh but why doesn't he have a "smoker cough"? You never see him have a coughing fit on stage or in the middle of his set.

You know, that is a good question!

Every old bastid I know that's smoked for decades often cough and splutter or clear their throat making lots of disgusting sounds.

Maybe Keith gave up heavy smoking years ago, but likes to keep up the image.

"You want Keith? I'll give you Keith. It may not always be me, but people want to believe it."

(Keith in the interview proudmary posted here):

[www.iorr.org]

That's why the thread topic is called Stones Myths.

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: May 20, 2011 14:11

Ronnie smokes as well, yet he doesn't have a raspy voice when he speaks

But have you heard his voice when singing since 2000?...that's raspy like a factory...

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Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: dead.flowers ()
Date: May 20, 2011 14:24

The Palm Tree Fall

Has the true story ever emerged?

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: May 20, 2011 14:41

yes, in the conclusion of 'Life'...funny stuff the whole story...

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Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: dead.flowers ()
Date: May 20, 2011 15:12

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yes, in the conclusion of 'Life'...funny stuff the whole story...

Is that really true? With "conclusion" do you mean in the last chapter(s)?

That would be a pity, because that LIFE book got on my nerves to such an extend that I gave it back to the library before I got to approximately the last or 2nd last chapter. Looks I made a mistake.

But what's the result now? No palm tree? No fall? What then?

Re: Stones Myths
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: May 20, 2011 15:17

well, God/Keith forbid me to write the ending chapters of his book here...cool smiley

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