I have been away from IORR lately, and I have not read much of this thread. I express my view as one that holds the view that there have been many peaks of the band's career. The one peak Mick Taylor was involved in, the third in my understanding, started before he joined and ebbed before he broke away. In my outlook three out of four albums, starting with SOME GIRLS (controversially be me, I
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My intuition is that with Mick Taylor hopefully in the studio, preferably as a rejoined member of the band, their interacting could change in a favourable way, and that this new personal chemistry would inspire more passionate and ambitious studio development of their song ideas. In that case their own songs ought to be much more interesting.
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QuoteDoxa........................... I like it better than the hundreds autopilot versions they run through the Vegas Era.................................... - Doxa Now I want to ask: Shall we take this, Doxa, that you consider the Stones to have moved past a Vegas Era and entered a post-Vegas Era, all according to your terminology?
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QuoteSweetThing Well, lets see.. The Dark Ages lasted longer than The Renaissance.... so, then, well, therefore the Dark Ages were the best version of humanity. It is debateable though to which extent those rather highflown analogies would hit the target that you here mean them to do. And to the more limited extent they still possibly could be said to do some justice, one might then in the nex
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Quotelazzzybones .......................................... This is a golden opportunity for the band to perform in that lineup.I'd say the same if Brian were still alive. All the same, I have to repeat that I find it rude to suggest that the replacing guitarist should leave the stage. It must suffice that the other band members (minus Bill Wyman) are playing.
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Quotelazzzybones QuoteWitness Quotelazzzybones Quotewindmelody Keith, Ronnie and Mick T. play togther well, no one has to sit it out.Right, no-one HAS to sit out, and, yes, Ron is an awesome player, and yes, 3 guitars sound good but COULD MICK T JUST PLAY A COUPLE OF HIS ERA TUNES while Ron goes and does whatever Mick J does when he sits out.Sheesh! Then WHY do you want this to happen? What
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Quotelazzzybones Quotewindmelody Keith, Ronnie and Mick T. play togther well, no one has to sit it out.Right, no-one HAS to sit out, and, yes, Ron is an awesome player, and yes, 3 guitars sound good but COULD MICK T JUST PLAY A COUPLE OF HIS ERA TUNES while Ron goes and does whatever Mick J does when he sits out.Sheesh! Then WHY do you want this to happen? What is really to be obtained by t
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Quotethrak I think this is very cool set list, better than last warm up gigs. I know some of us will complain about wahorses but let's be honest - You can't avoid HTW, JJF, SMU, TD, BS, Satisfaction, Miss You on Stones gig. Every other track is a bonus for hard-core fan. Love In Vain with Taylor - i'd like to see it on Hyde Park 13th july. I try not to be complaining and rather to express wishe
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Yes, it is so rude to make such a suggestion. QuoteGreen Lady Next stage will be: should Ronnie be asked to leave? After all, he's only been filling in all these years until the Only Acceptable Second Guitarist can return... Seriously, if the three guitars sound good together (and when I heard them, they did) then I'd rather hear the band enjoy the new possibilities of that setup than try
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Considered on its own, it is a very attractive setlist. Really to meet again from the long distant past, "Love in Vain", featuring Mick Taylor, what a treat! Of course, that applies to "Midnight Rambler" as well. But the novelty factor this time lies in "Love in Vain". However, now it is used up as a novelty. I hope for the band to be able to have some kind of no
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The album's claim to greatness is to me due to the utmost strength of three superior songs and the directness, immediacy and vitality that almost all the songs have got (partly one possible exception). Which three songs? Apparently not as obvious as one would have thought,which: "Miss you" (working both as a superb disco and a magnificent non-disco song at the same time), &q
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I hope for the release of a new electronic single, later to feature in the setlists.
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To me "Lies" is a reference and response to the contemporary punk scene. Therefore I really think it is a key track. I quite like it and that reference. In my view, punk and new wave vitalized the Stones. [ An early outtake of "Hang Fire" also has got that reference, where I am very frustrated by the album version from TATTOO YOU. I do love that outtake.]
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My wishes: First priority: She Smiled Sweetly Tell Me Moonlight Mile Second priority: Good times, Bad Times Long,Long While Child of the Moon Faraway Eyes Always Suffering A special wish; The solo song that is Jagger & Richards: Hard Woman
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QuoteLimbostone How did you manage to open a new topic for this? Along the same line of thinking, I therefore myself thought that the question consequently had to be rare Stones songs that argueably (also) the casual fans would love to hear when they got to hear them in a concert situation. Could there be such songs?
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As an alternative point of view, not necessarily my own view, but a handy compromise, I repeat a post that I entered in 2005. I consider it very wise to give the people at large what they want. At the same time I think that is just as wise not to give the people all that they want. Give them part of it. That is, don't give them so much of it. Warhorses should be a mere privilege to experience
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QuoteGRNRBITW QuoteWitnessNot only that, to this listener a new album infuses vitality to the listening to all of their albums, as it always has been the case with each new album of theirs. Because, apart from capability and desire to make great music or now rather comparatively great music, it is still a matter of their superb taste. run this by me again? ???
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For my own part, I would sincerely have not only liked, but loved a double studio album with new material only, provided that the band itself would have considered the material worthy of release. Because such a release would have had the preference to all their other albums for me to represent their musical outlook from now. That would apply even more if they would have been willing to invest mor
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Yes, the many to the occasion reborn fans of older generations do not want a new album. Neither are the occasion seekers that much interested. Only a minority of fans are keen for a new album, that seems to be correct. However, if the Stones want to mean something by touring under the slogan "50 and Counting", they have to record some new material. Because the novelty factor about a
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Most of all, I want to be surprised and overwhelmed. I don't want to "control" their setlist with my wishes. Rather I want to be exposed to the unexpected. Then I especially want songs of which I do not like the studio versions that much. Then they might play it live in a manner that lifts these songs more than anything. That is my dream. A prime example would be "Hang Fire".
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A ticket also for me to the second show in Hyde Park on July 13th! (I was not online up to the time for buying tickets to the first show.) Eventually, after all these years, I will be going to a Rolling Stones concert in London!
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I do not want to discuss politics on this board, and I am not entitled to that. Instead I shall mention how much I dislike the version that became "Hang Fire" on TATTOO YOU", because I have got one rather good and different studio outtake of it, with the title "Lazy Bitch (It Ain't Right)". I have always thought that this version or anyway this title of it referred t
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Quote71Tele QuoteWitness Quote71Tele Sure, they love playing together for the sheer joy of playing. Which is why they played together so often between 2007 and 2011. I think when all is said and done and they actually are on stage together they DO enjoy it immensely, but one wonders what was keeping them from experiencing this joy for such a long period of time. My suggestion: Because the aud
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Quote71Tele Sure, they love playing together for the sheer joy of playing. Which is why they played together so often between 2007 and 2011. I think when all is said and done and they actually are on stage together they DO enjoy it immensely, but one wonders what was keeping them from experiencing this joy for such a long period of time. My suggestion: Because the audiences have not valued n
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Quoteduke richardson so much commentary, blah blah, about the mercenary streak the Stones have shown. (they've never not wanted to make a lot of money)... but could it be that the main reason they're going out again is they really do like playing together? With a slight addition, yes indeed: I think it has to do first with the communication with and the feedback from the audiences. Then t
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For the assumed similarities to be present, it would necessitate 1) a new studio album, 2) with great many songs, suited to be played live (in the manner of SOME GIRLS), also to be played live, and 3) these songs thought to be welcomed by their nostalgia bent audiences. I suspect 3) to be the most demanding obstacle. In my view, it does not suffice for the comparison to hold true that the Ston
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QuoteMunichhilton I have to assume Country Honk was sort of inspired by it... If my memory serves me well, it was apparently the other way round. Rumour at the time was that during work on what was therefore later to be called "Country Honk", the famous guitar sound of "Honky Tonk Women" came up. If correct, the preplanned A-side of the following single "You Can't Alwa
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Quotewhitem8 QuoteMunichhilton I think the 'Vegas Era' label is most resented by those who were not lucky enough to see the Stones prior to Mick's takeover in 1989... Interesting comment, and pretty spot on. Not in my case, I saw one concert in 1970 and two in 1973. I am rather criticising than resenting, but all the same.
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1) There is a professionalism introduced from 1989 which I ambivalently from that time understood to be necessary, and a need for control as well applied to concerts played in such great venues as stadiums. Those factors in my view cannot been reduced to security seeking. 2) Over the years there is a tendency for the aging audiences' growing conservatism to more or less compel the band to fea
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