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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2018-08-18 20:56 by UrbanSteel.

Thankyou Urbansteel - nice post

I attended both Coventry shows in 1971 and this recording is definitely the first show.

There are three reasons for saying this.

1. Mick dedicating "Honky Tonk Women" to the "shy girls in Coventry" happened at the first show and was maybe Mick's sense of humour because the audience at the first show was very quiet and reserved. (He was being sarcastic) At the second show the audience came alive and the Stones had also warmed up.

2. The song "Prodigal Son" was played at the second show that night but not at the first and does not appear on this recording. In England in 1971 there were tight Laws about when a theatre show must finish and to play two concerts in one night including a support band (The Groundhogs at Coventry) it was not uncommon to play fewer songs in the first show and then let rip in the second show when bands could risk over-running their time by a few minutes. I think that is why "Prodigal Son" was only played at the second show. It was a time constraint and the Stones, despite their image, have always been professional perfomers and complied with the theatre restrictions.

3. Contrary to the Stonesdata notes in the above post, I don't think that Mick Taylor is using a slide on "Love In Vain" on this recording. On the night in the first show, a slide was not used on "Love In Vain" and when Taylor started to play without it Mick Jagger turned sharply around and looked at him. It seemed to me at the time that Jagger was expecting the usual slide guitar and was surprised not to hear it. My assumption (and it is an assumption) is that either Taylor was using the "wrong" guitar for slide (that is, it was not in open tuning) or he simply had forgotten to bring the slide on stage with him and had to improvise.

This is definitely the first Coventry show. No recording has ever surfaced of the second show and after all these years I doubt that it exists.

Hope this helps.
Kingbeebuzz.

MT plays alot of slide in standard tuning too-a style overlooked by alot of people but easily adapted for lead runs. I need to go review it again but I believe he's doing this on Love In Vain that appears in L&G(but I cant swear to it)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-19 22:24 by scottkeef.

I've never really analyzed it closely, but I think he's in standard tuning on L & G, also.

I first noticed MT doing this and then I saw Johnny WInter(he may be old but my hometown buddy can still do it) appear as if he was playing like that on a couple of songs on a dvd(not to say that both dont still use the open tuning also) but it seems more common than I initially thought!

scottkeef, are you from Beaumont?

Well, I have to admit I was born in Houston but was in Beaumont before my first birthday!! Lived on Campus in a duplex,then on Elgie and finally we built a house in the Westfield Terrace (new at the time) part on Greenridge Ln. in the Amelia area(right off College and Major Drive). Of course this wont mean anything to someone other than a Beaumont native!!

Thanks. I'm in Austin now, but lived in Beaumont from 69-74. I met Johnny and Edgar, interestingly, because I had a piano teacher that taught both of them -- mainly Edgar, as Johnny obviously preferred guitar.

We moved from there in feb 69 to outside ft worth where I am today. The main thing is when I lived there I only knew that kinda heat and humidity so I was used to it I guess but NOW I dont know if I could stand it!! People also dont believe me when I say Beaumont has mosquitoes that can nearly pick you up and carry you off(OK-but big and bad anyway!) I bet you remember those. Since you are in Austin do you get down to see Alvin Crow much?? WHAT a talent!

Scottkeef -- sorry I've gotten us a bit OT, but...

Yes, I can confirm the mosquitos -- not just the size (about like a nickel) but also there are billions of them...

Alvin Crow still plays the Broken Spoke, but not very often any more...

Hi,

As a guitarist I can confirm that Mick T. is playing "Love In Vain" in standard tuning on the 1971 and 1972 tours. On the 1969 U.S. tour he played it in open G tuning. Hope this helps.

Jim

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