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German LP "The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie" is the ORIGINAL release.
TAKRL "Jean-Clarke" is a COPY of the above LP with 2 additional tracks.
It exists as "Memorial" & "Mammorial" with sleeve variations.
They did not play Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) in NYC 1972! It wasn't even released........
Good that I wrote "seems"
bottom line is - not everything you find on the internet is true.
good catch.
True.
Looks like the first time Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) was taken to the stage was 4th of September 1973 in Cologne.
Actually you have it backwards. "Jean-Clarke" on the TAKRL (US) label is the original release. "The Stars" on the Caution (German) label is a copy dubbed from the TAKRL vinyl. Caution boosted the bass which is lacking on the TAKRL version, and deleted the "bonus tracks."
I have a Stones fanzine dated april/may 1974 with a review about "stars" and the same fanzine made a review of "jean-clarke" 6 (six) month later, stating "jean-clarke" was a copy of "stars".
Maybe you are right (?). So if you have more informations about these LP's, I'd be grateful.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-11-20 16:48 by LiveAtHidepark.
OK, thanks.
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Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
stein
()
Date: November 14, 2014 20:22
Anybody knows where and when the bootleg "The stars in the sky they never die" was recorded?
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
stewedandkeefed
()
Date: November 14, 2014 20:38
It was recorded at Essen in October 1973 - the middle show of three I believe. Two songs are from the evening Hamburg show also in October of 1973 (Star Star and Heartbreaker). I believe both sources are audience tapes though the Essen portion is often mistaken for soundboard. Probably the best pre Mike Millard Stones audience tape
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
stein
()
Date: November 14, 2014 22:01
Thanks a lot stewedandkeefed
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
Ross
()
Date: November 14, 2014 22:18
Is that the "Turn The Lights on, George" boot? Love that one!
Ross
Ross
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
electricmud
()
Date: November 14, 2014 22:41
and the stars never lie. GS is also from Hamburg.
Tom
. GS is also from Hamburg.Tom
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
stein
()
Date: November 15, 2014 00:23
Dont know other titles for, the stars in the skies that never die, but here is the set list
Gimmie shelter
Tumbeling dice
Happy
Star Star
Doo Doo Doo Doo heartbreaker
Dancing with mr, D
Angie
You can`t always get what you want
Gimmie shelter
Tumbeling dice
Happy
Star Star
Doo Doo Doo Doo heartbreaker
Dancing with mr, D
Angie
You can`t always get what you want
The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
Posted by:
open-g
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Date: November 15, 2014 02:07
Come on, as Electrimud already pointed out the last word of the title is Lie not die.
The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
The first edition seems to have had 11 tracks and different title:
THE ROLLING STONES
THE JEAN-CLARKE MAMMORIAL SONIC BARBECUE
Source: Essen & Hamburg, Germany, October, 1973
A1 Gimme Shelter 4:57
A2 Happy 2:48
A3 Tumbling Dice 4:27
A4 @#$%& 4:11
A5 Heartbreaker (Doo Doo Doo Doo) 3:50 [NY, MSG, July 26 '72]
A6 Sweet Virginia 3:59
B1 Dancing with Mr. D 3:05
B2 Angie 4:28
B3 You Can’t Always Get What You Want 10:45
B4 All Down the Line 3:52
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The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
The first edition seems to have had 11 tracks and different title:
THE ROLLING STONES
THE JEAN-CLARKE MAMMORIAL SONIC BARBECUE
Source: Essen & Hamburg, Germany, October, 1973
A1 Gimme Shelter 4:57
A2 Happy 2:48
A3 Tumbling Dice 4:27
A4 @#$%& 4:11
A5 Heartbreaker (Doo Doo Doo Doo) 3:50 [NY, MSG, July 26 '72]
A6 Sweet Virginia 3:59
B1 Dancing with Mr. D 3:05
B2 Angie 4:28
B3 You Can’t Always Get What You Want 10:45
B4 All Down the Line 3:52
[theamazingkornyfonelabel.wordpress.com]
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 15, 2014 05:12
ROCKMAN
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
stein
()
Date: November 15, 2014 12:22
Sorry for my error when I staRTED this tread,
the last Word in the title it is LIE not die
the last Word in the title it is LIE not die
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 15, 2014 12:24
.... that's okay... just write LIE 500 times and all will be forgiven....
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: November 15, 2014 12:36
Quote
open-g
The first edition seems to have had 11 tracks and different title:
THE ROLLING STONES
THE JEAN-CLARKE MAMMORIAL SONIC BARBECUE
Source: Essen & Hamburg, Germany, October, 1973
A1 Gimme Shelter 4:57
A2 Happy 2:48
A3 Tumbling Dice 4:27
A4 @#$%& 4:11
A5 Heartbreaker (Doo Doo Doo Doo) 3:50 [NY, MSG, July 26 '72]
A6 Sweet Virginia 3:59
B1 Dancing with Mr. D 3:05
B2 Angie 4:28
B3 You Can’t Always Get What You Want 10:45
B4 All Down the Line 3:52
[theamazingkornyfonelabel.wordpress.com]
German LP "The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie" is the ORIGINAL release.
TAKRL "Jean-Clarke" is a COPY of the above LP with 2 additional tracks.
It exists as "Memorial" & "Mammorial" with sleeve variations.
Re: The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
Posted by:
RipThisBone
()
Date: November 15, 2014 13:16
Quote
open-g
Come on, as Electrimud already pointed out the last word of the title is Lie not die.
The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
The first edition seems to have had 11 tracks and different title:
THE ROLLING STONES
THE JEAN-CLARKE MAMMORIAL SONIC BARBECUE
Source: Essen & Hamburg, Germany, October, 1973
A1 Gimme Shelter 4:57
A2 Happy 2:48
A3 Tumbling Dice 4:27
A4 @#$%& 4:11
A5 Heartbreaker (Doo Doo Doo Doo) 3:50 [NY, MSG, July 26 '72]
A6 Sweet Virginia 3:59
B1 Dancing with Mr. D 3:05
B2 Angie 4:28
B3 You Can’t Always Get What You Want 10:45
B4 All Down the Line 3:52
[theamazingkornyfonelabel.wordpress.com]
They did not play Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) in NYC 1972! It wasn't even released........
Re: The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
Posted by:
open-g
()
Date: November 15, 2014 15:37
Quote
LiveAtHidepark
German LP "The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie" is the ORIGINAL release.
TAKRL "Jean-Clarke" is a COPY of the above LP with 2 additional tracks.
It exists as "Memorial" & "Mammorial" with sleeve variations.
Good that I wrote "seems"
bottom line is - not everything you find on the internet is true.
good catch.
Quote
RipThisBone
They did not play Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) in NYC 1972! It wasn't even released........
True.
Looks like the first time Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) was taken to the stage was 4th of September 1973 in Cologne.
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
CousinC
()
Date: November 15, 2014 16:13
Ha, in vinyl days Stars in the sky was a fave of mine in a long winter.Very good boot then.And I've been at the shows . .
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
Winning Ugly VXII
()
Date: November 16, 2014 00:12
' Stars in the Sky ... ' has the best live version of " Happy " for my money.
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) is right up there as well.
It is a must have album.
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) is right up there as well.
It is a must have album.
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
dcba
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Date: November 16, 2014 00:25
A message to the guy who taped this one: please liberate the tapes NOW! 
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
shawnriffhard1
()
Date: November 16, 2014 02:39
Sweet Virginia is probably from MSG 72
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: November 16, 2014 11:49
Memorial/Mammorial :
SV from 26-07-1972
ADTL from Happy US single B-side
MJ interview from Dick Cavett Show 1972
SV from 26-07-1972
ADTL from Happy US single B-side
MJ interview from Dick Cavett Show 1972
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
django
()
Date: November 16, 2014 13:04
It was one of my first boots. Ever since, many followed. I loved it - almost SBD quality.
Does anyone know the story behind Jaggers shouting "turn the lights on George"?
Who is or was George?
Does anyone know the story behind Jaggers shouting "turn the lights on George"?
Who is or was George?
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
Eleanor Rigby
()
Date: November 16, 2014 14:45
Love this boot...fantastic raw clear sound.
Whoever taped this show should be commended...
Well done and well done Stones..great performance.
I also agree ita a great Happy...marginally beaten by Perth 1973 version IMO.
Whoever taped this show should be commended...
Well done and well done Stones..great performance.
I also agree ita a great Happy...marginally beaten by Perth 1973 version IMO.
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
CousinC
()
Date: November 16, 2014 18:07
Forgot his name at the moment.But that was part of the show.Mick shouted it to that light guy at nearly every gig in 73.
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
exilestones
()
Date: November 16, 2014 19:03
I think the best versions of "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and "Angie" are here. Arguably, "Angie" from King Biscuit Flower Hour (Brussels Affair) could be the best.
One great thing about Stars in the Sky is that it doesn't duplicate The King Biscuit material.
If you like this then check out Boss Hawg's "Missing Links" which also doesn't duplicate the King Biscuit material (in the Stones Vault).
One great thing about Stars in the Sky is that it doesn't duplicate The King Biscuit material.
If you like this then check out Boss Hawg's "Missing Links" which also doesn't duplicate the King Biscuit material (in the Stones Vault).
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
HEILOOBAAS
()
Date: November 17, 2014 15:36
O! How times have changed! Kinderen, in the early 1970s we were so stoned that flipping the record over took two hours! Hah!
Re: The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
Posted by:
dph
()
Date: November 20, 2014 03:27
Quote
LiveAtHidepark
German LP "The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie" is the ORIGINAL release.
TAKRL "Jean-Clarke" is a COPY of the above LP with 2 additional tracks.
It exists as "Memorial" & "Mammorial" with sleeve variations.
Actually you have it backwards. "Jean-Clarke" on the TAKRL (US) label is the original release. "The Stars" on the Caution (German) label is a copy dubbed from the TAKRL vinyl. Caution boosted the bass which is lacking on the TAKRL version, and deleted the "bonus tracks."
Re: The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: November 20, 2014 16:47
Quote
dphQuote
LiveAtHidepark
German LP "The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie" is the ORIGINAL release.
TAKRL "Jean-Clarke" is a COPY of the above LP with 2 additional tracks.
It exists as "Memorial" & "Mammorial" with sleeve variations.
Actually you have it backwards. "Jean-Clarke" on the TAKRL (US) label is the original release. "The Stars" on the Caution (German) label is a copy dubbed from the TAKRL vinyl. Caution boosted the bass which is lacking on the TAKRL version, and deleted the "bonus tracks."
I have a Stones fanzine dated april/may 1974 with a review about "stars" and the same fanzine made a review of "jean-clarke" 6 (six) month later, stating "jean-clarke" was a copy of "stars".
Maybe you are right (?). So if you have more informations about these LP's, I'd be grateful.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-11-20 16:48 by LiveAtHidepark.
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
silkcut1978_
()
Date: November 20, 2014 17:21
I think as well that the Caution-label was the original release - TAKRL tried to make it more interesting with the inclusion of Virginia and the single-version of All Down The Line when they copied it.
What I've heard (true or not) and what I already wrote in another thread years ago - the master-tapes were given to the Caution-bootleggers and they were never returned and ended up int he dustbin. This is beyond my imagination cause they could have easyly done another release (vol.2) with such quality recordings. But maybe they were caught in the act? I only have two Caution-LPs and it seems they didn't exist for too long.
What I've heard (true or not) and what I already wrote in another thread years ago - the master-tapes were given to the Caution-bootleggers and they were never returned and ended up int he dustbin. This is beyond my imagination cause they could have easyly done another release (vol.2) with such quality recordings. But maybe they were caught in the act? I only have two Caution-LPs and it seems they didn't exist for too long.
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: November 20, 2014 17:38
Silkcut, the 2nd "Caution" you're talking about must be "Brown Sugar & White Snow" ?
It was released in 1982, 8 years later than "Stars". Is it really the same label, he same guys after 8 years without any other "Caution" release ?
"Stars" was re-released in 1981, with a different back cover, and different matrix numbers.
AS.TS. 197810 // AS.TS. 197811 - 1974 release
AS TS 197810-A // AS TS 197810-B - 1981 release
complicated ...
It was released in 1982, 8 years later than "Stars". Is it really the same label, he same guys after 8 years without any other "Caution" release ?
"Stars" was re-released in 1981, with a different back cover, and different matrix numbers.
AS.TS. 197810 // AS.TS. 197811 - 1974 release
AS TS 197810-A // AS TS 197810-B - 1981 release
complicated ...
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
silkcut1978_
()
Date: November 20, 2014 17:40
No, the second Caution out of the same period I have is from Janis (I guess), not a Stones. I didn't even count Brown Sugar White Snow - that was a classical re-use of an old (and gone) label ;-)
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: November 20, 2014 17:42
Quote
silkcut1978_
No, the second Caution out of the same period I have is from Janis (I guess), not a Stones. I didn't even count Brown Sugar White Snow - that was a classical re-use of an old (and gone) label ;-)
OK, thanks.
Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by:
Rank Stranger
()
Date: November 20, 2014 17:51
I think I'll go with you Silkcut1978_ and LiveAtHydepark here.
Sometime age I also came across the "dustbin" story;
I think the boot was actually made in Amsterdam?
If I remember it correctly ( which is tough, after all this was fourty years ago! ) I got the "Stars" bootleg very soon after the Essen shows, and the "Jean-Clarke" much later. But maybe I did not have the best connections to bootleggers,
so that I missed the first delivery of the "J-C" boot?!
By the way, at the Essen shows, bootleggers were selling the "Live In London" lp from Wembley 1973.
I still have a "Hot Wacks" "book" from 1975, which lists the "Stars" boot,
but not the "J-C"?!
I have a sneaking suspicion, that the guys behind the "Stars" boot are the same,
who made the Neil Young "Live At The Roman Colosseum" bootleg.
Sometime age I also came across the "dustbin" story;
I think the boot was actually made in Amsterdam?
If I remember it correctly ( which is tough, after all this was fourty years ago! ) I got the "Stars" bootleg very soon after the Essen shows, and the "Jean-Clarke" much later. But maybe I did not have the best connections to bootleggers,
so that I missed the first delivery of the "J-C" boot?!
By the way, at the Essen shows, bootleggers were selling the "Live In London" lp from Wembley 1973.
I still have a "Hot Wacks" "book" from 1975, which lists the "Stars" boot,
but not the "J-C"?!
I have a sneaking suspicion, that the guys behind the "Stars" boot are the same,
who made the Neil Young "Live At The Roman Colosseum" bootleg.
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