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Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: Mr.D ()
Date: September 17, 2014 02:42

Is the above show in the Archives?

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: detroitken ()
Date: September 17, 2014 14:54

a boot is available

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 18, 2014 14:54

Great show!

A.G. Parr aka Freezer the New Orleans taper/trader reportedly had made a recording of this show. It probably went to the bin when the man died...

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: coowouters ()
Date: September 18, 2014 15:55

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dcba
Great show!

A.G. Parr aka Freezer the New Orleans taper/trader reportedly had made a recording of this show. It probably went to the bin when the man died...

If we're talking about the same "Freezer", I should check my archives to see if I have this show (got a lot of his stuff ages ago, but where oh where did I put it......)


.

Chris from Belgium


Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 18, 2014 21:31

Please do... smileys with beer

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: deeppurple ()
Date: September 21, 2014 17:43

Jacksonville was my 3th show that summer. The other 2 were inside. I was down front and was able to view the interactions of the band. That in it's self would take a whole page. Loved it. The heat was brutal and the Stones came on stage in the afternoon. Of the 3, it was at the time my least favorite. I have since acquired all 3 shows. Jacksonville was a brilliantly played show. Of all the shows from that tour I would rate it in the top 5 for musicianship

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: September 21, 2014 20:10

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deeppurple
The other 2 were inside.

??? guess you mean by different dates ???

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: jaaiii ()
Date: September 21, 2014 20:36

2cd - A Tour De Force - A Vinyl Gang Product VGP 137 - Jacksonville, FL August 2 1975 @ Gator Bowl

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: deeppurple ()
Date: September 22, 2014 18:31

stonesmuziefan, I saw them at the Omni in Atlanta on the 30th of July and in Greensboro NC at the Coliseum on the 31st. Then in Jacksonville on the 2nd of August. Jacksonville was the only outdoor show I attended. This was 3 consecutive dates on the "Tour of the Americas '75."

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: September 22, 2014 18:37

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deeppurple
stonesmuziefan, I saw them at the Omni in Atlanta on the 30th of July and in Greensboro NC at the Coliseum on the 31st. Then in Jacksonville on the 2nd of August. Jacksonville was the only outdoor show I attended. This was 3 consecutive dates on the "Tour of the Americas '75."

3 shows in a row;
was thinking did I miss 2 shows in Jacksonville, but now I get it.

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: HEILOOBAAS ()
Date: September 22, 2014 19:53

It is a really good show. The 1975 radio special "Insight" was taken mostly from interviews after that show. There are pics of Bianca onstage behind the band, looking cool as a Central American Cucumber. Being from Nicaragua, I'll bet the August Jacksonville humidity and heat was cool weather for her!

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: deeppurple ()
Date: September 22, 2014 20:25

What I loved about the show was the interaction between the band members. Keith forgetting to set his amp correctly drew wringing fingers and grins from Mick and Woody. All in good spirits. For some reason Keith seemed to struggle at times. He seemed preoccupied. Listening to the boot you can not hear it. The band was tight. Very tight. I think the heat left them with nothing to do but play. No antics. Charlie seem to suffer from the heat the most. Keith was very encouraging to him. Prompting Charlie to kick it up a notch. This was 39 years ago! I was down front of Keith. He looked at me a few times. I came away thinking he was at heart a shy person. Of course, Woody and Bill seem to be enjoying all of it. Mick did not let the heat slow him down. I do remember the heat. The Gator Bowl holds around 75,000. The heat was around 90+F. Only the Stones could manage to make everyone forget about it. I also saw them their in the Fall of '89. Part of which was used on "Flashpoint."

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 22, 2014 23:15

Thx for the story!

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: HEILOOBAAS ()
Date: September 24, 2014 14:25

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dcba
Thx for the story!

Well, you've earned my respect, sir.

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: Mr.D ()
Date: September 24, 2014 15:05

Thanks for all the stories and all...but does anybody know where I can actually GET this show on CD?smiling smiley

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Date: September 25, 2014 00:43

According to Dbboots, VGP-137 has the (mostly) full show-Billy's two numbers are cut-and it's in the Stones Vault as LOSSY. Here's the FileFactory link.

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: backtozero ()
Date: September 25, 2014 05:28

i do believe i have this boot!

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: letitloose6 ()
Date: September 25, 2014 10:22

For those who torrent, I just uploaded the VGP version to Electric Ladyland.


@coowouters: I beleive this boot is from Freezer tape, hope you find the raw tape to share.

For those who don't torrent, here's on wetransfer, hope it works

We



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Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 25, 2014 15:36

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letitloose6
For those who torrent, I just uploaded the VGP version to Electric Ladyland.

Thx a lot! And there'll be no mp3 pollution around this version as it's taken from original silvers! thumbs up



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Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: letitloose6 ()
Date: September 25, 2014 16:48

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And there'll be no mp3 pollution around this version as it's taken from original silvers!

No MP3s from me dcba smiling smiley.


When sharing, please keep the file set intact. Lineage is quality that should be preserved.

For your own use, convert it to whatever crappy format your ears can stand.

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: September 25, 2014 18:45

All files look like this.


Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 25, 2014 18:47

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Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: letitloose6 ()
Date: September 25, 2014 19:04

Well,if Silkcut would share a MP3 sourced version, passing it for a silver rip, the world would be upside down smiling smiley.

Here's part of Dime's post for the torrent:

Size 302.40 MB (317,093,724 bytes)
Added Tue 26th Dec, 2006 13:53 GMT
Views 848
Hits 368
Snatched 256 time(s)
Upped by silkcut1978

If fact, the 2 CDs are ripped to 302 Mb.

I looked at the spectrum of one of the tracks and it looks this is due to sound compression from VGP, not due to lossy source.

I see this happen some times, so I don't take the graphs "by the book".

To me this is a silver rip and will be as good as you can get, unless some one comes up with a tape transfer.

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: September 25, 2014 20:00

I did NOT say, this upload consists of lossy files!
I only made the screenshot to get more info and to start a discussion!

And I wouldn't assume, that silkcut uploaded a mp3 sourced version either!

I am completely satisfied with letitloose6's explanation!

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: letitloose6 ()
Date: September 25, 2014 20:09

Thank you Rank Stranger, but simply posting the graph might raise some doubts.

I'm not an audio expert, so I can't say if the terms I often see refered, such as "Lossy" or "Compressed" or "Brickwalled" are the same.

Maybe this can be a good example for any of the experts to enlighten us.


I just made a test over the files using TLH.

1. Converted the WAV to MP3@320
2. Coverted back the MP3 to WAV

Nothing gained, nothing lost. Got the same file size to the byte.
So I can agree that this source looks lossy.

The options are:
1. Silkcut made a mistake with the rip;
2. VGP used a lossy source;
3. VGP processing of the tape turned it lossy ou compressed or whatever ...

If someone has this silver, maybe it will help us reply these questions



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Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: September 25, 2014 20:58

Three songs from this show are on VGP's "Any Port in a Storm Revisited" VGP-308;
maybe these are from a different source?
Stones Vault:

[www.iorr.org]

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: Mr.D ()
Date: September 25, 2014 21:35

Thanks for the WT link, it works...couldn't get the Filefactory to work for me!smiling smiley

Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: letitloose6 ()
Date: September 26, 2014 00:10

Thank you to Erik Snow who clarified the issue on EL.

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On 25 September 2014, 22:51:44 Erik_Snow wrote:
I have this on silver and my DIME-upload of it was mistaken for being lossy as well, back in the day. But it's just the original tape that have been reworked by VGP to sound better...or something like that


Re: Gator Bowl Jacksonville, Florida August 2, 1975
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: September 26, 2014 14:38

Anyway get this show as it's great.

HTW is awful, dull and slow but after the 1st song things pick amazingly well.
My guess is during HTW a roadie placed big bumps of "Sessler's special" on top of the amps.
After that 1st song the show could really start! grinning smiley



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