Munichhilton, thanks for the feedback. It's good hear what works and what doesn't, so I can pause and evaluate some of these mixes before starting new ones. In the last month alone I've acquired many new (to me) editing plugins and applications -- Izotope Alloy, RX 2, and Nector -- all of which I've only begun to get the hang of, so there's a good chance I'll go back and redo some of the less successful mixes and post "ver. 2" remasters.

about the la july 12 75,there must be another source than millards (the first seven tracks) low vocal,mix of these two good idea ?

this would be good idea,but theres actually only 2 sources for july 12th,and the other is incomplete.

1975.07.13 The Forum, Inglewood, CA [DSP Mix]
sourced from Millard Master (VGP-340)
FLAC FORMAT





CD1

1. Fanfare For The Common Man
2. Honky Tonk Women
3. All Down The Line
4. If You Can't Rock Me - Get Off Of My Cloud
5. Star Star
6. Gimme Shelter
7. Ain't Too Proud To Beg
8. You Gotta Move
9. You Can't Always Get What You Want
10. Happy
11. Tumbling Dice
12. It's Only Rock'n Roll
13. Band Introductions
14. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)

CD2

1. Fingerprint File
2. Angie
3. Wild Horses
4. That's Life
5. Outa Space
6. Brown Sugar
7. Midnight Rambler
8. Rip This Joint
9. Street Fighting Man
10. Jumpin' Jack Flash
11. Sympathy For The Devil

The Millard source is excellent and really doesn't need to be remastered. The main purpose here was to manipulate the sound in a way that would render a different perspective. Specifically, to render the sound as if it were being received from a different spot in the arena. The mastering took 2 phases:

(1) Izotope Alloy's EQ and Transient modules were used to get the vocals and drums to sit a little differently in the mix.

(2) Izotope Ozone 4 was applied to finish it (multiband harmonic excitation, stereo imaging, and loudness maximizer were used). Final mix was mastered with a -0.1dB margin and very little compression* to preserve the dynamics.

There were a few spots with tape noise -- 3:35-50 IORR, 1:20-25 Brown Sugar... -- not sure if these artifacts are on the master or were introduced during transfer (?)

* 2:02-4:16 of "Star Star" was compressed 2:1 hard in the right channel because the vol. waivered a bit.

- Turn down the vol if you listen with headphones. The low (0.1d margin puts this mix right in your ear with little amplification necessary.

download here -> PART1 PART2 PART3


-Laughingsam



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this would be good idea,but theres actually only 2 sources for july 12th,and the other is incomplete.

I'll do July 12th next.

Hi laughingsam,
thank you for all your great work! But what can poor boy do...since I haven´t got the Megaupload premium membership could you kindly split the
1975.07.13 The Forum, Inglewood, CA [DSP Mix] upload into two smaller files (quote Megaupload: "The file you are trying to download is larger than 1GB"

Thank you in advance.

Happy Easter everyone!

Ya-Yas

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this would be good idea,but theres actually only 2 sources for july 12th,and the other is incomplete.

I'll do July 12th next.

i wonder if there is a tape? from the other source (not the millards )

from the first track to happy ,from happy we have on various boots.

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could you kindly split the 1975.07.13 The Forum, Inglewood, CA [DSP Mix] upload into two smaller files?

Links updated

Thanks Laughingsam. Have you made any progress with Luxury In Toronto or did you lose it when you got that virus?



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I'll get to Toronto soon. I'm making my way through the 75-76 shows in a random kind of order, but I want to do all the major shows for that LYL Alternate project.

I lied above when I said July 12th 1975 is next. I want to take a crack at MSG June 27 1975 first. The Northern Records vinyl rips seem to be the best source of this show, though it's incomplete. I'm thinking of remastering the vinyl tracks and then using DAC 83 for the missing ones. Does that sound right, or is there a better source I'm overlooking?

Hi Laughingsam,
thank you for the three-part version of The Forum 1975.07.13 .

Ya-Yas

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I'll get to Toronto soon. I'm making my way through the 75-76 shows in a random kind of order, but I want to do all the major shows for that LYL Alternate project.

I lied above when I said July 12th 1975 is next. I want to take a crack at MSG June 27 1975 first. The Northern Records vinyl rips seem to be the best source of this show, though it's incomplete. I'm thinking of remastering the vinyl tracks and then using DAC 83 for the missing ones. Does that sound right, or is there a better source I'm overlooking?

i think there is 2 differ complete sources of this show.

Would you consider remastering this laughingsam?

[www.iorr.org]

Something that should have been released by the stones a long time ago but this is the most complete version. I think you could vastly improve it.



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The Mocambo reels? Yeah I'll get to them. They require more attention because of the 5 different sources. Also DAC just released a version of that show [DAC-117 Sexual Healing] I wonder if it's any better than the IMP version.

Mocambo is nothing, if you want a real tough project, try tackling Knebworth! ;-)

J

I tried Knebworth 2 years ago with poor results. The signal path I used was way too flexible. I thought it was ok at the time, but it hurts my ears when I listen to it now :-) I'd tailor each of the sources better if/when I do it again.

That show is REALLY the effort though...good suggestion.

about knebworth 76 stray cat blues is the only audience version,

only 1 min soundboard ,all the other tracks are soundboard..

if there is two diff audience sources of stray cat blues ? ,,i can do merge stereo,

1975.06.27 Madison Square Garden, NYC [DSP Mix]
Multiple sources
FLAC FORMAT





01 Intro
02 Honky Tonk Women
03 All Down The Line
04 If You Can't Rock Me
05 @#$%&
06 Gimme Shelter
07 Ain't Too Proud To Beg
08 You Gotta Move
09 You Can't Always Get What You Want
10 Happy
11 Tumbling Dice
12 It's Only Rock n Roll
13 Introductions
14 Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
15 Fingerprint File
16 Cherry Oh Baby
17 Angie
18 Wild Horses
19 That's Life
20 Outa Space
21 Brown Sugar
22 Midnight Rambler
23 Rip This Joint
24 Street Fighting Man
25 Jumping Jack Flash
26 Sympathy For The Devil


Tracks 1-9 from "Preserve For Future" [Northern Records 1501] vinyl rip
Tracks 10-17 from "discover New York" [Northern Records 1502] vinyl rip
Track 18 from "Ster-eo-Baby" [RSVP 007] vinyl rip
Tracks 19-20, 22-24 from "Hold On Tight" [DAC-083]
Tracks 21, 25 from "Hold On Tight" [VGP-255]
Track 26 from "The Missing Jewels" [Rattle Snake 28]

The sound quality varied from source-to-source. The vinyl rips have the best sound (IMO) and the cd sources are the most inconsistent. The sound quality starts out excellent then steadily declines but always remains listenible.

Each track was mastered seperately using one or more of the following: Izotope Ozone 4, Izotope Alloy, Izotope Nector, Goldwave 5.58, and IZotope RX.

Download here -> Part1
Part2
Part3

-- Laughingsam



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Thanks! It must have been quite a chore to mix so many sources?

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about knebworth 76 stray cat blues is the only audience version,

I have "Hot August Night" [VGP-146]. Should I use that source to do a remaster or is there a better one?

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about knebworth 76 stray cat blues is the only audience version,

I have "Hot August Night" [VGP-146]. Should I use that source to do a remaster or is there a better one?

i don't know if there is more than one source of stray cat blues,?

Vancouver, I get what you're saying about Stray Cat Blues, but VGP-146 has several other AUD sourced tracks:

"Happy"
"Nothing From Nothing"
"Outta Space"
"It's Only Rock n Roll"
"Brown Sugar"
"Rip This Joint"
"Jumping Jack Flash"

Are you saying these tracks are available somewhere else in SBD? And if so, where can I find them?

It would be interesting to verify the results on the just surfaced Berne show.
I heard that DAC and Pignose will issue their title soon and would be a smack to have a better home-made edition.

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Laughingsam
Vancouver, I get what you're saying about Stray Cat Blues, but VGP-146 has several other AUD sourced tracks:

"Happy"
"Nothing From Nothing"
"Outta Space"
"It's Only Rock n Roll"
"Brown Sugar"
"Rip This Joint"
"Jumping Jack Flash"

Are you saying these tracks are available somewhere else in SBD? And if so, where can I find them?

sorry ! i must check ,the tracks again,

yes there is more audience tracks..what i need is varoius sources of audience of these tracks to mix together.

1976-05-22: Earl's Court, London, England [DSP Remaster]
source: DOG n CAT Records [DAC 045]
FLAC FORMAT

CD 1:

1. Fanfare for the Common Man [00:01:51]
2. Honky Tonk Women [00:03:44]
3. If You Can't Rock Me [00:02:10]
3. Get Off Of My Cloud [00:00:03]
4. Hand Of Fate [00:04:29]
5. Hey Negrita [00:05:31]
6. Ain't Too Proud to Beg [00:04:26]
7. Fool to Cry [00:05:37]
8. Hot Stuff [00:05:16]
9. Star Star [00:04:13]
10. You Gotta Move [00:04:20]

CD 2:

1. You Can't Always Get What You Want [00:09:03]
2. Band intro [00:01:22]
3. Happy [00:03:06]
4. Tumbling Dice [00:04:01]
5. Nothing From Nothing [00:02:48]
6. Outa Space [00:04:53]
7. Midnight Rambler [00:10:41]
8. It's Only Rock'n Roll (But I Like It) [00:04:44]
9. Brown Sugar [00:03:35]
10. Jumping Jack Flash [00:03:21]*
11. Street Fighting Man [00:06:03]*

Mastered in 2 phases:

Phase 1 (premastering) was done in Goldwave 5.58:

Sibilance was a bit of a problem on this mix. A dymanic bandpass filter was applied between 6500-7680Hz with a gradual grade to quell the hiss.
The songs were then compressed 2:1 soft to reduce peaks and the voice was maximized with the remaing high noise. It's a tradeoff: less sparkle to the mix but it doesn't ess so much.

Phase 2 (mastering)

Izotope Ozone 4 was used with a liberal threshold -6.0dB on the loudness maximier, Muti-band harmonic exciter expanding upward, multi-band dynamics had thesmoother engaged to keep the hiss from reappearing. Multi-band stereo imaging was used to push the frequencies apart and get a stereo sound. Finally a small amount of reverb was added on a 14.5ms delay from the side and 2.2ms from the center.

* The AUD portion of DAC 045 cut in @ :55 of JJF. The sound qulaity was godawful.
On here I spliced in JJF and SFM from Paris 6/6/76 and dropped SFTD altogether. We lose posterity, but we don't have to clean the s*#* out of our ears at the end.

DOWNLOAD HERE -> 1976.05.22 Part1
1976.05.22 Part2

--Laughingsam



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It would be interesting to verify the results on the just surfaced Berne show.
I heard that DAC and Pignose will issue their title soon and would be a smack to have a better home-made edition.

SMACK!


1973-09-26 Festhalle, Bern, Switzerland [DSP Remaster]
source: "WILLIAM TELL EDITION" 023
FLAC FORMAT

Thanks to "Lucifer Burns" (original uploader)
Thanks to "Judge Free" (taper)



1. BROWN SUGAR
2. GIMME SHELTER
3. HAPPY+
4. TUMBLING DICE
5. STAR @#$%&
6. DANCING WITH MR.D
7. ANGIE
8. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WAHT YOU WANT
9. MIDNIGHT RAMBLER
10. HONKY TONK WOMEN
11. ALL DOWN THE LINE
12. RIP THIS JOINT
13. JUMPING JACK FLASH
14. STREET FIGHTING MAN

Izotope Alloy was used to clean the mud out of the original recording. Izotope Ozone 4 was used for final mastering.

The 1st part of Brown Sugar was blared on the source.

download here --> 1973.09.26 Bern [DSP Remaster]

-Laughingsam
02MAY2011

tx Laughingsam for all that excellent work !!!

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It would be interesting to verify the results on the just surfaced Berne show.
I heard that DAC and Pignose will issue their title soon and would be a smack to have a better home-made edition.

SMACK!


1973-09-26 Festhalle, Bern, Switzerland [DSP Remaster]
source: "WILLIAM TELL EDITION" 023
FLAC FORMAT

Thanks to "Lucifer Burns" (original uploader)


Thanks to "Judge Free" (taper)



1. BROWN SUGAR
2. GIMME SHELTER
3. HAPPY+
4. TUMBLING DICE
5. STAR @#$%&
6. DANCING WITH MR.D
7. ANGIE
8. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WAHT YOU WANT
9. MIDNIGHT RAMBLER
10. HONKY TONK WOMEN
11. ALL DOWN THE LINE
12. RIP THIS JOINT
13. JUMPING JACK FLASH
14. STREET FIGHTING MAN

Izotope Alloy was used to clean the mud out of the original recording. Izotope Ozone 4 was used for final mastering.

The 1st part of Brown Sugar was blared on the source.

download here --> 1973.09.26 Bern [DSP Remaster]

-Laughingsam
02MAY2011

Thanks!



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Thanks Sam!