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Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Stone601 ()
Date: August 6, 2008 18:06

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LSTNT
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Stone601
Any idea about the second disc ?
[www.amazon.co.uk]

Could it possible be just the cd in dvd-audio? That's my guess.

Yes it's possible, the description say:"....Bonus Digital Copy "
I don't understand all these mysteries.
I live in Italy and they are not successful to wait for and
i have bought the US version , and sure I will buy the 2 dvds set.
I love so much this film

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: August 6, 2008 18:13

>> Could it possible be just the cd in dvd-audio? <<

eek, no, say it's not that! i want it to be the version with the complete Connection
and the complete Connection rehearsal!
and they can leave in Buddy Guy's full introduction too, while they're at it :E

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: August 6, 2008 18:18

when will the 2 disc set be available?

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Stone601 ()
Date: August 6, 2008 18:29

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melillo
when will the 2 disc set be available?
From Amazon site:
Availability: Currently unavailable. We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: August 6, 2008 18:38

thanks

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Adams ()
Date: August 7, 2008 15:33

that's what the 2 disc edition is about:
[www.nme.com]

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: August 7, 2008 15:46

oh well ... but thanks for the clarification, AdamS

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Nanker Phlegm ()
Date: August 7, 2008 15:48

[www.nme.com]

NME.COM piece on DVD release.

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Lorenz ()
Date: August 7, 2008 15:51

pff, who needs that digital copy sad smiley there is plenty of programs to convert DVDs..
I want MORE! MORE docu, behind the scene, rehearsal, etc!

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Stone601 ()
Date: August 7, 2008 16:28

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Lorenz
pff, who needs that digital copy sad smiley there is plenty of programs to convert DVDs..
I want MORE! MORE docu, behind the scene, rehearsal, etc!

I agree

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Amused ()
Date: August 7, 2008 16:58

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Lorenz
pff, who needs that digital copy sad smiley there is plenty of programs to convert DVDs..
I want MORE! MORE docu, behind the scene, rehearsal, etc!

"The package will include four new songs and a backstage documentary featuring rehearsal and rare archive footage."

!

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Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Lorenz ()
Date: August 7, 2008 17:00

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Amused
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Lorenz
pff, who needs that digital copy sad smiley there is plenty of programs to convert DVDs..
I want MORE! MORE docu, behind the scene, rehearsal, etc!

"The package will include four new songs and a backstage documentary featuring rehearsal and rare archive footage."

!

Yeah, that's already on the normal DVD edition - that's Undercover, T&A, PIB and I'm Free.

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: August 7, 2008 17:15

Yeah but there's a "16-page booklet featuring the film's production notes"!

So we can read on paper how Marty miss-pelled things!

Re: Shine A Light By The Devil's Advocate
Posted by: angee ()
Date: August 7, 2008 20:37

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terraplane
Wasn't thus also a complaint about the Last Waltz ie, too much emphasis on Robbie Robertson.


Yes it was!

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: August 7, 2008 20:50

yes but robbie robertson is not MICK JAGGER

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Topi ()
Date: August 14, 2008 09:01

Ok ya'll, my DVD arrived in less than two weeks, got it yesterday. Last night I went through the extras and boy, that 15 minute featurette really should have been longer. But maybe it´s just the hard core fans who want to see the Stones rehearse.

Picture looked really good when scaled to 1080p and I guess the sound is as good as I currently can make it (I only have a mini-stereo attached to my Mirai 32" TV - no real amplifier or separate speakers)

I can recommend shopping with Caiman, but mind you there are some nasty customer reviews out there. (Some of them concern region codes which obviously are not the store's fault)

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: August 14, 2008 10:00

>> (Some of them concern region codes which obviously are not the store's fault) <<

Caiman's fault is not specifying what region the disks they sell are, even when one emails them to ask.
they're fine if it doesn't matter to you what region a disk is encoded for, or if a given disk only exists in "region 0" form.
pardon the digression ... but it's true.

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: August 14, 2008 22:07

Saw the DVD. The extras are definitely worth owning. The film itself is what I saw in the theater - yet another Mick-centered film of a decent, but not great, show by the Stones, marred by fake fans and uneven performances by Keith and the guests.

The best DVD remains the Saitama boot; six or seven TV station guys with handheld cameras on stage and in the audience managed to capture the Stones magic much better than Scorcese. The Saitama clips on the Biggest Bang were ruined by editing - the raw footage rules. Too bad no one has posted the Midnight Rambler clip from that show.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-08-14 22:11 by drbryant.

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: August 14, 2008 23:27

I just realized that I'll have to buy it 4 times. Normal and SE DVD and normal and SE BluRay.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: August 15, 2008 02:07

My favorite part of this dvd picture wise is that just about all the action is on the STONES and we dont have to hardly look at the "supporting cast". We know they're there cause we hear em but its nice to just concentrate on the STONES.

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: August 15, 2008 04:34

The DVD has sold 50,135 copies in US according to The-numbers.com and debuted at #13 on the DVD chart.

[www.the-numbers.com]

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: August 15, 2008 08:41

A review of the BluRay version.



Shine a Light (Blu-ray) (2008)

"It's good to see you all. It's good to see anybody."
- Keith Richards, addressing the audience at New York's Beacon Theatre

Review By: David Krauss
Published: August 12, 2008

Stars: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Ronnie Wood
Other Stars: Jack White III, Christina Aguilera, Buddy Guy
Director: Martin Scorsese

MPAA Rating: PG-13 for brief strong language, drug references, and smoking
Run Time: 02h:02m:02s
Release Date: July 29, 2008
UPC: 097361385945
Genre: music
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Style
Grade Substance
Grade Image Transfer
Grade Audio Transfer
Grade Extras
Grade
B+ A A- A+ C+

DVD Review
The Rolling Stones may not have coined the term "sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll," but for many years they made the mantra their religion. Several of their musical contemporaries followed suit, but whereas Hendrix, Joplin, and Morrison allowed the edgy lifestyle to consume and ultimately destroy them, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Charlie Watts somehow survived…and prospered. Forty years ago, few would have wagered the hard-living triumvirate (along with Ronnie Wood, who officially joined the group in 1976) would still be alive at age 60, let alone performing. But just like their legendary repertoire, the iconic group continues to thrill audiences of all ages, and put on a show as electric and energetic as any of today's puerile pop pretenders.

Shine a Light may not be the quintessential Stones tribute, but Martin Scorsese has fashioned an eminently watchable film that captures the essence of the Stones in concert. The Oscar-winning director (boy, it feels good to be able to finally write that) and preeminent rock band seem like a match made in heaven, but Scorsese oddly chooses to dial down his own kinetic energy and forego his trademark flash in favor of a more straightforward cinematic approach. Let's get one thing straight right off the bat, kids; this isn't a rock 'n' roll incarnation of Raging Bull. In fact, if it weren't for a few appearances by the director early in the film, it might not be apparent that Scorsese's the maestro conducting the camera ensemble. To his credit, the celebrated filmmaker never upstages his celebrated subject, but a little more Scorsese razzle-dazzle would have lent the potent Stones performances extra punch.

The movie opens with some behind-the-scenes negotiating between Jagger (who fears a mounted camera swooping around on a crane would be distracting to the band and audience) and Scorsese (who argues it's an essential element of a concert shoot) via telephone, and details Marty's anxiety about the song lineup (which Mick doesn't reveal until the very last minute). We also catch a few isolated peeks of the Stones in rehearsal, and the arrival of such stodgy VIP guests as Bill and Hillary Clinton (the concert is a benefit for The Clinton Foundation), and Hillary's mother, Dorothy Rodham, all of whom give the event an unfortunate geriatric feel.

The aging rockers, however, quickly roll back the clock, dazzling their multi-generational audience from the downbeat of their opening number, Jumping' Jack Flash. Though it takes Jagger a song or two to warm up vocally, he soon hits his stride, and his energy level and agility never fail to astonish both the cheering throng at New York's 2,800-seat Beacon Theatre and those of us at home. The almost 65-year-old performer struts and prances about the stage, shakes his skinny hips, and mugs with abandon throughout the two-hour concert just as he has for more than four decades, and never for a second does he look like a caricature of his former self. His face may now sport some wrinkles and sags, but the rest of the package remains amazingly intact. By the time Brown Sugar and Satisfaction roll around at the very end, Mick kicks himself into overdrive, and leaves us breathlessly marveling at his stamina, and wondering whether a steady diet of sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll just might be healthier than vitamins, wheat grass juice, and Pilates.

The song set runs the gamut from bona fide classics to more obscure tunes, and includes forays into both country and blues. There's not a dud in the bunch, but Jagger really busts loose on All Down the Line, Just My Imagination, and Start Me Up. Other gems include Shattered and Tumblin' Dice, and don't miss out on four terrific songs that didn't make the final cut, but are included in the disc's special features—Undercover of the Night, Paint It Black, Little T & A, and I'm Free. Special guests Jack White III, Christina Aguilera (who creates sizeable sizzle with Jagger on a duet of Live With Me), and Buddy Guy make welcome contributions, but the Stones don't need the services of others to beef up their act. They're a hefty enough serving of meat and potatoes on their own.

Scorsese is no stranger to the concert film (remember The Last Waltz?), and his omnipresent cameras get up close and personal, so we don't miss any onstage antics or subtle interactions. Jagger rightfully grabs the lion's share of attention, but all the band members receive plenty of face time. Best of all, Scorsese captures the camaraderie that has kept the Stones such a tight-knit unit all these years. There's some wonderful interplay between Jagger and Richards, whose laidback cool and serene smiles nicely offset Mick's gyrations, and vintage interview clips (sprinkled throughout the concert) provide glimpses of the guys in younger days, as well as snapshots of their inimitable personalities.

Such footage makes one crave a full-fledged, in-depth Stones documentary, but that's a project for another day. Shine a Light illuminates the concert Stones, and will stand as a testament to their talent, showmanship, and endurance long after they hang up their guitars. But if Martin Scorsese's fine film proves anything, it's simply this: There's no need to scuttle these legends offstage anytime soon. The Rolling Stones are still rolling, and they're still—unbelievably—in their prime.

Jumping Jack Flash
Shattered
She Was Hot
All Down the Line
Loving Cup (duet with Jack White III)
As Tears Go By
Some Girls
Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)
Far Away Eyes
Champagne and Reefer (duet with Buddy Guy)
Tumblin' Dice
You Got the Silver
Connection
Sympathy for the Devil
Live With Me (duet with Christina Aguilera)
Start Me Up
Brown Sugar
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction

Rating for Style: B+
Rating for Substance: A


Image Transfer
One
Aspect Ratio 1.78:1 - Widescreen
Original Aspect Ratio yes
Anamorphic yes


Image Transfer Review: Shine a Light isn't the crispest 1080p transfer I've seen, but the high-definition rendering still provides exceptional clarity and pumped-up contrast, heightening the disc's you-are-there atmosphere. The behind-the-scenes sequences are largely shot in ultra-grainy black-and-white to accentuate the documentary feel, while the concert footage features a modicum of grain to no doubt preserve the look of celluloid and reflect both the gritty rock 'n' roll music and intimate theatrical setting. Colors are vivid and well saturated, but don't really pop (and that's a good thing in this instance); blacks are appropriately inky, while bursts of white light show no signs of digital noise. Each crease and wrinkle on the Stones' weathered faces is aptly reproduced, and individual drops of sweat are also visible. Close-ups give us a good look inside Jagger's cavernous mouth and into Richards' glazed eyes, while rapid camera pans and Mick's frenetic movements never destabilize the image, which looks terrific on a big-screen display.

Image Transfer Grade: A-


Audio Transfer
Language Remote Access
Dolby Digital
TruHD English yes
DTS English yes
PCM English yes


Audio Transfer Review: Paramount goes the extra mile here, with three audio options for discriminating ears. Unquestionably the best, the 5.1 DTS HD-Master Audio brings the concert home with a totally immersive track. All five channels are constantly employed, with distinct but not disjointed separation, fine dynamic range, and solid, well-integrated bass. The vocals (both lead and backup), guitars, drums, horns, and crowd noise wash over the listener, ebbing and flowing like a perfectly pitched audio tide. This is a loud track, one that requires volume levels a few notches below what you may be used to, but even when firing on all cylinders (and please be sure to crank this baby up), it resists distortion, and sounds as pure and clean as it surely did live.

The 5.1 Dolby TrueHD track performs equally well, but can't match the level of detail of DTS. Switching between the two, I found the TrueHD possesses all the same layers as the DTS; I just have to listen more carefully to pick them out. Those who like their Stones slightly muted might prefer this option, which still offers excellent sound, but lacks the "pow" factor that concerts like this demand.

A 2.0 PCM track is also a fine alternative for those with two-channel systems.

Audio Transfer Grade: A+


Disc Extras
Full Motion menu with music
Scene Access with 21 cues and remote access
Subtitles/Captions in English, French, Spanish with remote access
4 Deleted Scenes
1 Featurette(s)
Packaging: standard Blu-ray packaging
1 Disc
1-Sided disc(s)
Layers: dual


Extras Review: Not much here (though what's included is identical to the extras on the standard def release), save for the four deleted songs mentioned above and a rather bland featurette. The good news, though, is that all the special features are in glorious HD. It's too bad Undercover of the Night, Paint It Black, Little T & A, and I'm Free couldn't have been integrated into the film's original cut via a seamless branching option, because they're far from second-rate discards. In fact, Undercover of the Night rivals the disc's best cuts, so be sure to check it—and the other deleted tunes—out.

The featurette isn't really a cohesive work, but rather a 15-minute conglomeration of leftover rehearsal footage, vintage interview clips, candid conversations, and an impromptu acoustic jam session. There are more moments with the Clintons, an off-color anecdote from Buddy Guy, and some comments from drummer Charlie Watts that help us get a handle on this too-often-silent musician's elusive personality. It's well worth a look, but don't expect a making-of puff piece.

Extras Grade: C+

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: tutu ()
Date: August 16, 2008 13:33

i think i'm going mad!

it's only tutu

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: August 17, 2008 18:10

Is this a bootleg?
[cgi.ebay.de]

Strange artwork and absolutely no infos by the seller, very suspicious...

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: August 17, 2008 18:39

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midnrambler
Is this a bootleg?
[cgi.ebay.de]

Strange artwork and absolutely no infos by the seller, very suspicious...

Judge rules: Bootleg.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: The Stones ()
Date: August 17, 2008 22:53

I watched I'm Free on SAL yesterday and I gotta tell you those models up front and close to the runway are really hot.
Maybe Jagger made a wise decision to hire them after all....
After enjoying the bonus tracks I can't understand why they didn't play I'm Free and Undercover
on a regular basis during the latest tour 'cause they sound just great. Also cool bass from Darryl on Little T&A for sure.

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Date: August 18, 2008 19:47

Just finished the entire DVD last night. I only made it to You Got The Silver and was so disappointed to see Keith not even strum a lick I shut it off. Then I pick up where I left off and Connection was a disaster, sure this time he at least strapped on the axe but as I soon found out it was merely for show. What is up with that? Can he even walk and chew gum at the same time anymore? Never thought I'd say this but I am beginning to think Ronnie is holding the band together as much as Charlie anymore. How sad!

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: Shawn20 ()
Date: August 19, 2008 00:47

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drbryant
Saw the DVD. The extras are definitely worth owning. The film itself is what I saw in the theater - yet another Mick-centered film of a decent, but not great, show by the Stones, marred by fake fans and uneven performances by Keith and the guests.

The best DVD remains the Saitama boot; six or seven TV station guys with handheld cameras on stage and in the audience managed to capture the Stones magic much better than Scorcese. The Saitama clips on the Biggest Bang were ruined by editing - the raw footage rules. Too bad no one has posted the Midnight Rambler clip from that show.



Damn, that was good footage. The power of JJ-Flash returned, if only for a moment. That was wonderful.

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: micwer ()
Date: August 19, 2008 01:08

In my opinion, Scorcese tried too much to have people laugh: cf. the jokes on the setlist, the repeated interviews about their age, footage of Charlie stones out of his mind, meeting with Bill Clinton, etc.
The 15-min bonus was just PHENOMENAL. The discussion with Buddy Guy, the rehearsal, etc., in other words a little bit of authenticity, that's what I loved. I wish Marty had focused more on these points that he cut out rather than make what could have been a masterpiece a comedy.

Re: Shine A Light DVD reviews and reports
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: August 19, 2008 03:38

It kind of makes one wish Marty had gone with Mick's original idea.

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