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Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Ron Wud ()
Date: April 24, 2008 23:04

In 37 years of being into the Stones I've never seen this before.

Any info about the filming would be appreciated.

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Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: April 24, 2008 23:16

Rocks yer bums off, wipes out all the modern mumbojumbo
we've been feedin' by last 42 years in an instant.. THANKS!!

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Lorenz ()
Date: April 24, 2008 23:21

Ah, that's great! Mick clearly didn't have his dancing lessons yet grinning smiley
And it looks he had some sleepless nights...



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Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: alimente ()
Date: April 25, 2008 00:28

Red Skelton TV show, 1964 not 1966. full playback, not live. Red Skelton is the idiot with the cowboy hat. supposed to be funny, but takes too much away from the Stones performance. well at least 40 years ago they thought it was funny. times have changed. or can anybody imagine a TV host like Ed Sullivan for rock music today?

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Happy Jack ()
Date: April 25, 2008 00:30

They appear to be miming for one. Watch Charlie, there is a drum roll and he doesnt follow it. Further the front of his bass drum doesnt look real. Secondly, it would appear that this is from 1964, not 66 as the video states. Interesting nevertheless!

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: 5string ()
Date: April 25, 2008 02:40

of course they are miming. that is the track from the first lp. and they appear to be playing in b-flat! i always thought they had played in a and sped it up! dang- been wrong so long! but i'm right tonight! cheers

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: lamemodem2 ()
Date: April 25, 2008 02:43

Quote
Happy Jack
They appear to be miming for one.

Jagger doesn't have a mic, so I'd say you're right.



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Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: April 25, 2008 02:54

Quote
alimente
Red Skelton TV show, 1964 not 1966. full playback, not live. Red Skelton is the idiot with the cowboy hat. supposed to be funny, but takes too much away from the Stones performance. well at least 40 years ago they thought it was funny. times have changed. or can anybody imagine a TV host like Ed Sullivan for rock music today?

And wasn't that Sebastian Cabot, famous for the role of "Mr. Giles French" in the TV show "Family Affair," who came running in the door towards the end of the video?


Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Beelyboy ()
Date: April 25, 2008 03:27

awesome bass...iffin u don't know how to doos it, he shows you how to walka de dawg...

they are still quite the dirty boys here. yeh mick looks like too many black beauties and too many cigarettes...almost skeletal...harrowed even...even at this early age...well it takes what it took rock on...


(skelton featured the earliest Stones for 3 or more numbers on his popular show, with little bits of generational pantomime somewhat interacting with them...on HIS popular show was probably good for the band and incredible national exposure on a hit show.
he was certainly one of america's grandest, warmest-hearted circus clowns and early comedic film stars long before having his own prime time show. he was respected by everyone from chaplin to gleason and by a huge public.

they were treated considerably more respectfully here with Red than the quick, but historic, shot they got on Dean Martin's show. dean is always ultra cool, be it city slick or in a western, but it took Red to give birth to Clem Kadiddlehopper, did it not me droogies?

Was this their first time over? They did a first short tour in the states in 64 & K has often been quoted as saying it was a hard first effort in getting proper notice...
... and then exploded with their next arrival, is this correct history?
was TV done on their first states visit? is this from the first or second time over?
If so, when did they come back to america and approx. how long were those first tour trips to n. america?

what was the nature and general frequency (kenneth) of their TV spots on those first n. american visits?
i know there's a link with specifics of all this somewhere (which would be appreciated) but anyone know offhand?
tanx

boy it's a gracious wonder we have that TAMI footage (from second visit in '64?)
to actually have good footage and sound on the band in concert that early on...whoo hoo and a half...thumbs up



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Re: Carol
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 25, 2008 07:28

>> i know there's a link with specifics of all this somewhere (which would be appreciated) but anyone know offhand? <<

the Skelton footage was shot in London, between their first two US tours.
Nico Zentgraf's site is the one you want to bookmark for questions like that: [www.nzentgraf.de]
just choose whichever year you're interested in from the box on the left and start prowling.

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: April 25, 2008 10:11

Great, never seen this before!




But why is he wearing this silly hat???


47 shows...and counting...Hyde Park - July 6 & 13

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: April 25, 2008 11:25

But why is he wearing this silly hat???

'Cause Red wanted to be taken seriously....

ROCKMAN

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: keeffriffhard ()
Date: April 26, 2008 00:15

1964....not 1966

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: April 26, 2008 00:48

This is a great clip even w/the miming especially if you can remember it airing originally(I was 7 yrs old). The Stones all look bored out of their minds though!

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: HEILOOBAAS ()
Date: April 26, 2008 01:45

Mick's hair is absolutely long for the time! Brian's was all combed and brushed and beautiful. Mick looked like he just rolled out of bed.

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"We all shine on/like the moon/and the stars/and the sun."

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Ron Wud ()
Date: April 26, 2008 19:55

Details from [www.nzentgraf.de] (wonderful site. Spend 5 minutes glancing at those early years and you realise how very hard they worked)

'Carol' along with 'Tell Me' and 'It's All Over Now' recorded at the London Palladium on August 5, 1964 for Red Skelton Hour.

Appears to be in the entrance leading to a grand stairway at the Palladium. Never been, but wouldn't mind guessing that those doors and stairs are still there.

Broadcast September 22
Repeated November 10

Re: Carol - A New One On Me
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: April 27, 2008 04:04

Ain't no lip-synching on this one:

Footage continues after the credits
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