What is the minimum time for a tour announcement in advance of the first gig?

And I mean in the context of:

a) the most recent tour in each area;

b) short tours (few dates) in each of those 3 areas; and

c) the time of year -- winter and spring (Europe - summer??).

Any other contextual factors I missed?

I will feed all the results into a computer and calculate 1) if; and 2) when the band will be touring, or not.

Pending the results of such calculations, I am not to be held liable for any future realities.


Plexiglass Productions



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Typically in the Pacific a show is announced and on sale 75-90 days prior to the event.

timbernardis, No worries mate, I got the latest date possible for each region right here (go ahead and boot up the computer):

ASIA 2008 Shows - Last Date for Announcement: NOVEMBER 10th, 2007

USA 2008 - Last date for Announcement: DECEMBER 10th, 2007

EUROPE 2008 - Last Date for Announcement: January 9th , 2008

Let's crunch those numbers and see what we get !!!!

Bangkok, originally scheduled for April 8th 2003, was annouced on March 4th 2003.
Shanghai and Beijing, originally scheduled for April 1 and 4 2003, were announced on March 2nd 2003.
India in April 2003 was announced on February 21st 2003.
Singapore, March 24+26 2003, was announced on February 20th 2003.
The Tokyo Budokan show on March 10th 2003 was announced on February 7th 2003.
The Tokyo Dome and Osaka shows, March 15+16 and 20+21 2003, were announced on December 10th 2002.

[www.iorr.org]
[www.iorr.org]

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Erik, you pretty much nailed Tim's question there.

..and Bro, you made it a little picturesque (4-6 weeks)

ty

Shanghai April 8th 2006 was announced on February 28th 2006.
[www.iorr.org]

The rescheduled Hong Kong shows, November 7th & 9th 2003, were announced on September 4th 2003.
[www.iorr.org]

Thanks, erikjjf, for giving us hope yet!

Don't thank me. Thank the IORR News Archives )
And I don't know whether it gives any actual hope of a 2008 tour. Just an idea of how far or short in advance previous shows in Asia were announced.
I think much more would be known at this point, if there will be shows this Spring.

erikjjf Wrote:
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> Bangkok, originally scheduled for April 8th 2003,
> was annouced on March 4th 2003.
> Shanghai and Beijing, originally scheduled for
> April 1 and 4 2003, were announced on March 2nd
> 2003.
> India in April 2003 was announced on February 21st
> 2003.
> Singapore, March 24+26 2003, was announced on
> February 20th 2003.
> The Tokyo Budokan show on March 10th 2003 was
> announced on February 7th 2003.
> The Tokyo Dome and Osaka shows, March 15+16 and
> 20+21 2003, were announced on December 10th 2002.
>
> [www.iorr.org]
> [www.iorr.org]

Any idea when we were sure they were going to tour back then even if the tour wasn't officially announced yet?

See the IORR News link from January 2003.

It looks like they have moved the Asia plans until 2009. This is not the first time they move Asian tours. With plans for a complete Asian tour I assume it got too complicated to do it at this stage. Still I hear rumours about NYC spring.

Bjornulf

Generally, these days, I would expect the Stones to announce a tour any place in the world with a maximum of 2-3 months. Mind you they are getting older and they don't want to have long term commitments. They do tours bits by bits. Large tours need scheduling and 1-3 months pre-sales in Europe and North America. For the rest of the world they might show up on one month notice, but they would need to activate crew, rehearsals and booking of venues, and there are always some leaks, so they will not just pop out from nowhere. Relax!

Bjornulf

bv Wrote:
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> It looks like they have moved the Asia plans until
> 2009. This is not the first time they move Asian
> tours. With plans for a complete Asian tour I
> assume it got too complicated to do it at this
> stage. Still I hear rumours about NYC spring.


I heard NYC spring, too... You know from whom, BV.

ARGHHH I"M GOING CRAZY...

i want to go to new york !

Thanks, bv, for info or updating.
Me, I'm gonna edit my posts above.

It's not the end of the world (at least not for me)

bv Wrote:
---- Relax!



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erikjjf Wrote:
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> See the IORR News link from January 2003.

Much earlier (2002):

Recent changes and additions: Oct. 27: Shanghai and Beijing shows in Nov. off according to the Stones. Oct. 14: Shows in Hong Kong, China Nov. 7 and 9 confirmed. Oct. 14: Still hope for shows in China. Oct. 10: Shows in China in November off according to press. Oct. 2: Four shows to be played in China in November. Sep. 29: Asia tour November probably just four shows in China. Sep. 22: No news or official confirmations of rumoured shows in China. Sep. 22: Rumours of smaller arena shows in Tokyo, Japan not confirmed

Harm:

It's not the end of the world (at least not for me)



it might be for me. was so looking forward to spring US for months, have friends from all over inc eur/uk planning on it, or msg anyway. big get together.


sleepless nights now til a decision made, dammit.


plex

well, this is good news for me. i just heard from a friend that asia was still on but no US tour and was bumming. if it's at least new york in spring, that's good enough for me.

NO, I want Asia thanx for letting me sleep tonite queenie with that little glimmer of hope from Asia!

well, if asia is postponed to '09, technically it's still "on" and so my friend would technically be right. you'll get the shows, you just have to wait.

I'd appreciate a little gig in, like, Hungary, Czechia, Sweden.. Some year, like.. 2010?

little queenie Wrote:
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> well, if asia is postponed to '09, technically
> it's still "on" and so my friend would technically
> be right. you'll get the shows, you just have to
> wait.

Well Asia, Tokyo specifically is only a 7 hour flight from Hawaii, just an hour longer than going to West Coast North America from here, so if it's 2009 then there's more time to plan for it.

Maybe by 2009 they'll be ready to play additional regions other than Asia as 4 years will have passed since the opening of the ABB tour?

i'll believe it when i see it.

well, NY in spring indicates an intimate date with a stripped-down band to promote the release of Shine A Light. hope it does not shrink down to three or four songs at a press conference, but at the moment it smells like that...

I simply cannot imagine weeklong rehearsals including all backing musicians for just one show or even a string of shows at, lets say, the MSG. too much effort.

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alimente
well, NY in spring indicates an intimate date with a stripped-down band to promote the release of Shine A Light. hope it does not shrink down to three or four songs at a press conference, but at the moment it smells like that...

I simply cannot imagine weeklong rehearsals including all backing musicians for just one show or even a string of shows at, lets say, the MSG. too much effort.

Good point

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alimente
well, NY in spring indicates an intimate date with a stripped-down band to promote the release of Shine A Light. hope it does not shrink down to three or four songs at a press conference, but at the moment it smells like that...

I simply cannot imagine weeklong rehearsals including all backing musicians for just one show or even a string of shows at, lets say, the MSG. too much effort.

I agree, it is starting to sound like SMU, BS and IORR.