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Witness
"Desperately trying" and "throwaway"! At the same time?

In case, much in the same manner as many songs on EXILE ON MAIN STREET.

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LeonidP
Emotional Rescue's 3 ripping tracks:
- Summer Romance
- Let Me Go
- Where The Boys Go

always lag behind the 3 from Some Girls:
- Respectable
- Lies
- Whip Comes Down

For one, the Some Girls tracks came first, and most importantly, the lyrics on the Some Girls tracks are far superior.

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Silver Dagger


What's interesting about Summer Romance is that the Stones for the first time in ages are singing to a younger audience instead of to their peers. They're actively trying to re-engage with a teen audience, or to be more precise, a punk teen audience.


Can't we consider IORR has already some similar generation gap?

If I could stick a knife in my heart
Suicide right on stage
Would it be enough for your teenage lust
Would it help to ease the pain? Ease your brain?

Not to mention Stray Cat with 15 ys olds... :-)

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RollingFreak
Thats fine, since everyone has their own opinions about Stones music, but that is why we're seeing things so differently (and by "we" I mean you and some of the other people. Your 3 tracks I think have a very different feeling to others, myself included. Far Away Eyes is a great song, but to me Shattered and Miss You are the two worst tracks on Some Girls. The horrible bookends to a GREAT album.

But again, thats me, and I think its pretty safe to say thats LeonidP's and Buffalo's. Obviously those tracks are monsters and you're in good company with them being considered great tracks. But I think thats why there's such a difference with the Emotional Rescue tracks, because most of us found the high points (if there are) of that album in the rock tracks, whereas you were fine with the experimental dancey direction the Stones were going in.

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the big issue for the album emotional rescue is there was no tour to properly support the new album . think of it like this if the stones toured in support of this fine album ,then we would hear live ,summer romance, where the boys go, down in the hole (which is by far one of the best blues tracks the glimmers have ever recorded).then we would all be rocking out to them in a big way a-la start me up. there lies the sin of the glimmers that they did not tour to support this masterpiece of an album (i know i can hear all the naysayers bashing this ).i know the stones touring model was every three years and this was in between some girls tour 1978 and the tattoo you tour 1981 .this was a album with very good songwriting as opposed to other albums that the glimmers mined the vaults .i do know that a lot of these tracks go back to the pathe marconi sessions .a lot of these tracks along with the some girls album were recorded in anticipation of Keiths upcoming legal issues in Canada and so the stones wanted to lay down a lot of tracks to cover some girls album and beyond .nothing wrong with that !

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the big issue for the album emotional rescue is there was no tour to properly support the new album . think of it like this if the stones toured in support of this fine album ,then we would hear live ,summer romance, where the boys go, down in the hole (which is by far one of the best blues tracks the glimmers have ever recorded).then we would all be rocking out to them in a big way a-la start me up. there lies the sin of the glimmers that they did not tour to support this masterpiece of an album (i know i can hear all the naysayers bashing this ).i know the stones touring model was every three years and this was in between some girls tour 1978 and the tattoo you tour 1981 .this was a album with very good songwriting as opposed to other albums that the glimmers mined the vaults .i do know that a lot of these tracks go back to the pathe marconi sessions .a lot of these tracks along with the some girls album were recorded in anticipation of Keiths upcoming legal issues in Canada and so the stones wanted to lay down a lot of tracks to cover some girls album and beyond .nothing wrong with that !

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Witness
I like every song of the loveable EMOTIONAL RESCUE and also this one.

"Summer Romance" is of the class of Stones songs that are different. But I wonder, what kind of song is it really? I venture one characterization: Possibly, it is a "reggae ballad". Not simply a ballad, not really reggae, but all the same, "reggae ballad".

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TheGreek
the big issue for the album emotional rescue is there was no tour to properly support the new album . think of it like this if the stones toured in support of this fine album ,then we would hear live ,summer romance, where the boys go, down in the hole (which is by far one of the best blues tracks the glimmers have ever recorded).then we would all be rocking out to them in a big way a-la start me up. there lies the sin of the glimmers that they did not tour to support this masterpiece of an album (i know i can hear all the naysayers bashing this ).i know the stones touring model was every three years and this was in between some girls tour 1978 and the tattoo you tour 1981 .this was a album with very good songwriting as opposed to other albums that the glimmers mined the vaults .i do know that a lot of these tracks go back to the pathe marconi sessions .a lot of these tracks along with the some girls album were recorded in anticipation of Keiths upcoming legal issues in Canada and so the stones wanted to lay down a lot of tracks to cover some girls album and beyond .nothing wrong with that !

the 'sound' of this album, the production, is also exceptionally good.

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Witness
I like every song of the loveable EMOTIONAL RESCUE and also this one.

"Summer Romance" is of the class of Stones songs that are different. But I wonder, what kind of song is it really? I venture one characterization: Possibly, it is a "reggae ballad". Not simply a ballad, not really reggae, but all the same, "reggae ballad".

Put down the crack pipe. It's a barrel ahead rocker.

Maybe you're thinking of "Send It To Me".

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Silver Dagger


What's interesting about Summer Romance is that the Stones for the first time in ages are singing to a younger audience instead of to their peers. They're actively trying to re-engage with a teen audience, or to be more precise, a punk teen audience.


Can't we consider IORR has already some similar generation gap?

If I could stick a knife in my heart
Suicide right on stage
Would it be enough for your teenage lust
Would it help to ease the pain? Ease your brain?

Not to mention Stray Cat with 15 ys olds... :-)

Blimey you're right beno - you've highlighted a worrying pattern here.

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RollingFreak
One of very few good songs on Emotional Rescue. And its still a throwaway.

Thats actually the main problem I have with ER. The songs weren't terrible. Let Me Go, Indian Girl. They had potential. The problem was the Stones were on autopilot. Every song sounded like they were just meandering through it. It was just a means to an end and thats why something like Indian Girl never reaches its full potential. Cause the Stones are mindlessly strumming through it while Jagger is almost mumbling the lyrics.

Thats why Summer Romance kind of shines. Cause the frenetic pace actually shows some life. But in the end, it is still a throwaway and doesn't measure up that well. Its just not AS BAD as the other stuff on ER.

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Doxa
I think "Summer Romance" is a typical EMOTIONAL RESCUE track in the sense that even though the song-writing might be a bit lazy, the band is so red hot as it ever can be. The Pathe Marconi magic. The guitarwork is especially tasty (and I think the feature that most captured young Doxa's attention from otherwise odd album from first listening.) - to me trademark Keith and Ronnie stuff from that time. The band sound even one inch more relaxed than in masterful SOME GIRLS.

Anyway, as I say the song-writing is a bit lazy, that partly is the charm of EMOTIONAL RESCUE in general and "Summer Romance" in particular - the arrogant, decadent attitude, which compansates the lack of genuine inspiration. By today's terms we could say the song is "Stones-by-numbers", something they can come up half-sleep, but however, it is the inspirational delivery, which sound eternally fresh, that makes the difference to more recent stuff.

Hmm.. how to rank it? I think it better than "Where The Boys Go", but weaker than "Let Me Go". There.

- Doxa

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Witness
I would say that "Summer Romance" is an excellent example of that kind of Stones songs that are unambitious, but inspired. Unambitiously inspired.

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Witness
I would say that "Summer Romance" is an excellent example of that kind of Stones songs that are unambitious, but inspired. Unambitiously inspired.

Yeah, I dig that description. Especially during those 'punk-influenced' times, they sounded inspired doing simple rockers, which creatively weren't any kind of challenges for them. But they sound so natural (in opposition to forced), which I think always asks some sort of inspiration. (Not all though, I think "Lies", "Where The Boys Go" and "Neighbours" are a bit so-so cases.) By contrast, before SOME GIRLS, and after EXILE, they sounded a bit tired and uninspired in that kind of simple rocker material - I suppose simply it is a mark of an artistic exhaustion, since they had excelled that stuff especially in EXILE. Stuff like "Silver Train", "Star Star", "If You Can't Rock Me", "Dance Little Sister or "Crazy Mama" comes to mind (which aren't to say that they are not good songs; they probably are even better song-writing-wise than some, or even many, Pathe Marconi era rockers).

- Doxa

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wandering spirit
I always loved the album ER, and for me one of its highlights has always been SR. A straight forward rocker with loud guitars and a nasty, decadent attitude.

It´s a bit out of topic, but the Hampton version of SSS really is great. I even prefer it to the studio version.

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wandering spirit
I always loved the album ER, and for me one of its highlights has always been SR. A straight forward rocker with loud guitars and a nasty, decadent attitude.

It´s a bit out of topic, but the Hampton version of SSS really is great. I even prefer it to the studio version.

Keith playing open G almost makes it a different song. It goes from pop/rock to pretty hard rock'n'roll, imo. I like both approaches, btw

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wandering spirit
I always loved the album ER, and for me one of its highlights has always been SR. A straight forward rocker with loud guitars and a nasty, decadent attitude.

It´s a bit out of topic, but the Hampton version of SSS really is great. I even prefer it to the studio version.

Keith playing open G almost makes it a different song. It goes from pop/rock to pretty hard rock'n'roll, imo. I like both approaches, btw

I guess it's "She's So Sold" you are talking about... Yeah, it is a great version. Not just Keith's guitar, but also Jagger's vocals puts the song to different zone... almost punk rock, especially the way the lyrics are mouthed... It is funny how they decide to pick up those two mid-tempo rockers from EMOTIONAL RESCUE (SSC & LMG) and play them fast, fast, fast.... "Summer Romance" and "Where The Boys Go" would have been more in that territory already...

- Doxa