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NWSooner
Been hanging out at this site for over a decade and although I don't post often I very much respect the knowledge and love of the Stones hardcore fans her, but I seriously don't understand why the track from Bigger Bang "Dangerous Beauty" is not liked by most of them, I absolutely love that song and hope to hear it played live sometime before the Stones hang it up for good.
What is it that you don't like about the track, seriously?
For those of you that love it as I do, please back me up here!
Rock On, NWSooner
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matxil
Well, I don't like it.
The riff is third-rate, there is no groove, there is no melody, no special sound or chord-changes or anything. It reminds me of the worst songs on Dirty Work: just Mick Jagger screaming some gibberish over a background of grungy guitars without any kind of special lick of riff. And the lyrics..., I guess it's some tongue-in-cheek comment on the girl in the Abu Ghraib pictures, but I don't get what's so funny or sexy or ironic or God-knows-what he intends to bring across.
You could say the exact same thing about Start Me Up. And, imo, the songs are good because of the very same reasons: A good open G-riff and great vocals from Mick.
+ the BB King-esque solo by Keith is nice on DB.
EDIT: Just to make it clear, I'm not saying DB is as good as SMU, only that these songs' fortes are similar.
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DandelionPowderman
I don't hear "masses of shit" on any Stones album. Not even Streets Of Love or Suck On The Jugular are down there, imo
Nope and Gomper is an underrated classic!
Wow, eventually I get the possibility to express the view that I for one, in fact, consider "Gomper" to be a classic Rolling Stones track and, besides, an underrated one at that!
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OK babe, I'm backing you up!
ABB is a worthwhile record.
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Elmo Lewis
Love the groove and overall sound. What ruins it for me is the political lyrics. Not very good no matter what your political leanings. BTW, she wasn't much of a beauty.
Would have been a great song with better lyrics. Ditto "Blinded By Rainbows".
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Elmo Lewis
Love the groove and overall sound. What ruins it for me is the political lyrics. Not very good no matter what your political leanings. BTW, she wasn't much of a beauty.
Would have been a great song with better lyrics. Ditto "Blinded By Rainbows".
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Elmo Lewis
Love the groove and overall sound. What ruins it for me is the political lyrics. Not very good no matter what your political leanings. BTW, she wasn't much of a beauty.
Would have been a great song with better lyrics. Ditto "Blinded By Rainbows".
I've always liked Dangerous Beauty but I will agree with you on Blinded By Rainbows.
Of course, neither song eve begins to approach the lyrical high-bar Mick set with You Got Me Rockin" ...I was a butcher cutting up meat... Magnificent!
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Elmo Lewis
Love the groove and overall sound. What ruins it for me is the political lyrics. Not very good no matter what your political leanings. BTW, she wasn't much of a beauty.
Would have been a great song with better lyrics. Ditto "Blinded By Rainbows".
I've always liked Dangerous Beauty but I will agree with you on Blinded By Rainbows.
Of course, neither song eve begins to approach the lyrical high-bar Mick set with You Got Me Rockin" ...I was a butcher cutting up meat... Magnificent!
It even gets you all 'creative' and makes you want to invent new lyrics...
I was a Grocer, bagging the fruit
I was a nurse, changing the pans
I was a hooker, losing her looks (Oh right, that one's already taken)
I was cabbie, drivin' a cab
I was a pilot, landing a plane
Truly inspiring, the lyrics just write themselves.
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Elmo Lewis
Love the groove and overall sound. What ruins it for me is the political lyrics. Not very good no matter what your political leanings. BTW, she wasn't much of a beauty.
Would have been a great song with better lyrics. Ditto "Blinded By Rainbows".
I've always liked Dangerous Beauty but I will agree with you on Blinded By Rainbows.
Of course, neither song eve begins to approach the lyrical high-bar Mick set with You Got Me Rockin" ...I was a butcher cutting up meat... Magnificent!
It even gets you all 'creative' and makes you want to invent new lyrics...
I was a Grocer, bagging the fruit
I was a nurse, changing the pans
I was a hooker, losing her looks (Oh right, that one's already taken)
I was cabbie, drivin' a cab
I was a pilot, landing a plane
Truly inspiring, the lyrics just write themselves.
Yours are much more lame, sorry haha.
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Elmo Lewis
Love the groove and overall sound. What ruins it for me is the political lyrics. Not very good no matter what your political leanings. BTW, she wasn't much of a beauty.
Would have been a great song with better lyrics. Ditto "Blinded By Rainbows".
I've always liked Dangerous Beauty but I will agree with you on Blinded By Rainbows.
Of course, neither song eve begins to approach the lyrical high-bar Mick set with You Got Me Rockin" ...I was a butcher cutting up meat... Magnificent!
It even gets you all 'creative' and makes you want to invent new lyrics...
I was a Grocer, bagging the fruit
I was a nurse, changing the pans
I was a hooker, losing her looks (Oh right, that one's already taken)
I was cabbie, drivin' a cab
I was a pilot, landing a plane
Truly inspiring, the lyrics just write themselves.
Yours are much more lame, sorry haha.
I'm flattered!
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Come On
They could add some extra-tracks for the anniversary-album next year...there outta be a couple of outtakes from 'Streets of Love'....
Ronnie&Keith
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black n blue
Should be played live more on tour
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lem motlow
bigger bang-or as i call it studio diarrhea part 3.
this is one of the many times digital helped destroy the rolling stones recording career.
in a very death by a thousand cuts way,mick and keith are walking on eggshells around each other so they cant have an argument or even a deep discussion about what songs to keep or leave off the record-well voila! digital recording is here. we can leave all the songs on,avoid conflict and "give the fans more music"-
never mind that your record is a long boring piece of crap with 16 songs,at least 6 of which should have never seen the light of day.
all of those records-voodoo, bridges and a bigger bang are an excercise in frustration.the talent was there to make a great record and they just misfired every time.
voodoo lounge- they used all of their great ideas on wandering spirit and main offender so of course voodoo had to have as many songs as a double album,because they had so many great ideas left......
bridges to babylon-i'm still trying to wade through this mess all these years later.i look at it and i cant even figure out what it is-from the 1973 santana cover on the cd to the looooong drawn out songs by mick and keith-
always suffering and already over me are the same song- yet jagger spends a combined TEN MINUTES on the two of them.
not to be out done keith has his own TEN MINUTES of snoozers-you dont have to mean it and how can i stop.these four songs would equal nearly an entire side of a vinyl lp.it also shows how a lack of competition hurts,they would've never put that stuff out against a who's next,dark side of the moon,abbey road or houses of the holy-like i said,death by a thousand cuts.
then bigger bang-they had maybe,and i mean maybe 8 good songs.they shouldve just worked on those and made a record like black and blue[8 songs]but instead we have epic,never ending digital dysentery.
its probably better they just gave up-too many c-list records were starting to make the catalogue look bad.
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It even gets you all 'creative' and makes you want to invent new lyrics...
I was a Grocer, bagging the fruit
I was a nurse, changing the pans
I was a hooker, losing her looks (Oh right, that one's already taken)
I was cabbie, drivin' a cab
I was a pilot, landing a plane
Truly inspiring, the lyrics just write themselves.
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GasLightStreet
The last LP to get any respect world wide was a whopping two albums ago, BRIDGES TO BABYLON. Its songs got played on the tour, it sold pretty good and the videos were pretty good.
Can't say any of that about ABB.
But ABB had a song played on a daytime soap opera...B2B didn't
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NWSooner
Been hanging out at this site for over a decade and although I don't post often I very much respect the knowledge and love of the Stones hardcore fans her, but I seriously don't understand why the track from Bigger Bang "Dangerous Beauty" is not liked by most of them, I absolutely love that song and hope to hear it played live sometime before the Stones hang it up for good.
What is it that you don't like about the track, seriously?
For those of you that love it as I do, please back me up here!
Rock On, NWSooner
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Elmo Lewis
Love the groove and overall sound. What ruins it for me is the political lyrics. Not very good no matter what your political leanings. BTW, she wasn't much of a beauty.
Would have been a great song with better lyrics. Ditto "Blinded By Rainbows".
Dangerous Beauty is a great song, best track on the album and I think the lyrics are hilarious and get right to the point.
In particular:
Who you got there in that hood, you look so fancy in those photographs
With your rubber gloves on you're a favourite with the Chiefs of Staff
You're doing such a wonderful job
You're a natural at working with dogs
Keeping everyone awake at night
With a touch of the prods
It's political but very clever, which I cannot say about Sweet Neo Con, which got all the press.
I think if they really wanted to get political they should have released Dangerous Beauty as the lead single.
Can you imagine the collective WTF expression hearing that for the first time as the single?
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Stoner72
Like the last four Stones' LPs, A Bigger Bang has its moments. But I'll never confuse it with one of their truly great albums.
Speaking of Voodoo Lounge, I think a great deal of "Love Is Strong". It simmers instead of trying to run you down, and it works perfectly. "Saint of Me" works, too.
Both would appear on any Stones comp I was responsible for.