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Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: July 17, 2014 00:37

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Cristiano, si tocan en Mvd, venis seguro , no? Donde vivis?

Por supuesto que si. Yo vivo en Porto Alegre.

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: July 17, 2014 00:42

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Reciprocity Fees, anyone aware of this?

I was reading the wikitravel for Argentina. While you don't need a visa, they are stating you have to pay a reciprocity fee to enter. $160 for US citizens and can re-enter for up to ten years. Will have to check about the other countries.

This is basically what the Brazil visa is--it's because the US charges Brazilians to enter, so they return the favor (understandably). Same deal with re-entry there too. Hence my joy when I found I could enter for free on my UK passport!

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: July 17, 2014 00:43

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Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: varilla ()
Date: July 17, 2014 21:57

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varilla
Cristiano, si tocan en Mvd, venis seguro , no? Donde vivis?

Por supuesto que si. Yo vivo en Porto Alegre.

Por aca te espero con gran asado y jam session Stone...cuento contigo!

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: July 17, 2014 22:49

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MingSubu
Reciprocity Fees, anyone aware of this?

I was reading the wikitravel for Argentina. While you don't need a visa, they are stating you have to pay a reciprocity fee to enter. $160 for US citizens and can re-enter for up to ten years. Will have to check about the other countries.

This is basically what the Brazil visa is--it's because the US charges Brazilians to enter the US, so they return the favor when we go there (understandably). Same deal with re-entry there too. Hence my joy when I found I could enter for free on my UK passport!

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: July 18, 2014 00:18

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Aquamarine
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MingSubu
Reciprocity Fees, anyone aware of this?

I was reading the wikitravel for Argentina. While you don't need a visa, they are stating you have to pay a reciprocity fee to enter. $160 for US citizens and can re-enter for up to ten years. Will have to check about the other countries.

This is basically what the Brazil visa is--it's because the US charges Brazilians to enter the US, so they return the favor when we go there (understandably). Same deal with re-entry there too. Hence my joy when I found I could enter for free on my UK passport!

thumbs up

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: July 18, 2014 00:57

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varilla
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Cristiano Radtke
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varilla
Cristiano, si tocan en Mvd, venis seguro , no? Donde vivis?

Por supuesto que si. Yo vivo en Porto Alegre.

Por aca te espero con gran asado y jam session Stone...cuento contigo!

Grande! Dalo por hecho! thumbs up

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: July 18, 2014 06:35

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varilla
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Cristiano Radtke
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varilla
Cristiano, si tocan en Mvd, venis seguro , no? Donde vivis?

Por supuesto que si. Yo vivo en Porto Alegre.

Por aca te espero con gran asado y jam session Stone...cuento contigo!

Grande! Dalo por hecho! thumbs up

Epa, se armó una juntadita! Bien ahí! thumbs up

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: July 19, 2014 18:01

Got my Hep combo vaccination yesterday. He had to order the Typhoid. Which he said was not necessary, but ordered anyways. I'm up to date with my routine vaccinations.

When I asked about the Yellow Fever vaccine, he laughed and asked if I was planning on staying in the jungle. If just staying in the larger cities there will be no worries. Same with the Rabies vaccination.

He has travelled to S.A. twice and hasn't had the Typhoid, or Yellow Fever vaccinations. For malaria, he just took pills. He said that he would write me a rx for those.

At the end of the visit he said he would do whatever I feel comfortable with. Any opinions on this?

Again, what the CDC site calls for.
All Travellers: Routine vaccinations
Most Travellers: Hep A and Typhoid
Some Travellers: Hep B, Marlaria, Rabies and Yellow Fever

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: July 19, 2014 20:12

You know I was in the Peace Corps in Sri Lanka and lived in Caracas and I didn't take the malaria meds. It is like the Yellow fever, you won't be in the jungles and I doubt you would need the malaria. The Rabies is more important. Lots of feral dogs.

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: July 19, 2014 20:26

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whitem8
You know I was in the Peace Corps in Sri Lanka and lived in Caracas and I didn't take the malaria meds. It is like the Yellow fever, you won't be in the jungles and I doubt you would need the malaria. The Rabies is more important. Lots of feral dogs.

I'll get the rabies vac. then. Thanks for the tip.

I'm kind of torn, with 2 options.

Option 1: As of now I'm planning to hit most, if not all concerts. So that would just a big cities trip. And I'm assuming the 2 free days between shows. I'd use that for travel and exploring that city.

Option 2: On the other hand, kind of do what I did for 50 & Counting... and the Euro 14 On Fire tour. Get tickets for about 6 concerts. Have a week and a half/two weeks of free time to explore. Nothing crazy, but not big city stuff. Then my string of concerts, where I'll visit the large cities. Then after the string of concerts have another week, or two doing other stuff.

When I travel I like to see everything, or atleast mix it up a bit. I can't combine both options and be gone for months. I'd miss my chow chow too much. A month and a half is the most time I'm comfortable being away from him.



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Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: July 19, 2014 23:11

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MingSubu

When I asked about the Yellow Fever vaccine, he laughed and asked if I was planning on staying in the jungle. If just staying in the larger cities there will be no worries. Same with the Rabies vaccination.

He has travelled to S.A. twice and hasn't had the Typhoid, or Yellow Fever vaccinations. For malaria, he just took pills. He said that he would write me a rx for those.

Yellow Fever and malaria vaccination (or pills) are needed when traveling to Amazon or other cities nearby, even for people who lives in Brazil.

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: varilla ()
Date: July 20, 2014 00:46

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Cristiano, si tocan en Mvd, venis seguro , no? Donde vivis?

Por supuesto que si. Yo vivo en Porto Alegre.

Por aca te espero con gran asado y jam session Stone...cuento contigo!

Grande! Dalo por hecho! thumbs up

Epa, se armó una juntadita! Bien ahí! thumbs up
quique, hermano, estas totalmente invitado!!!

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: alhavu1 ()
Date: July 20, 2014 01:49

Dangerous so be careful

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: July 20, 2014 01:58

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Dangerous so be careful

Could you elaborate a little?

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: alhavu1 ()
Date: July 20, 2014 02:01

What?! It's obvious just gotta be extra alert ... Do not carry wallet etcetc

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: July 20, 2014 02:12

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What?! It's obvious just gotta be extra alert ... Do not carry wallet etcetc

Just asking, relax.

Dangerous seems a little extreme. South American cities are sounding just like any other city. Just have to have some street smarts.



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Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: July 20, 2014 02:14

What are some popular foods in the areas that they might be playing in?

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: July 20, 2014 02:17

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Cristiano Radtke
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MingSubu

When I asked about the Yellow Fever vaccine, he laughed and asked if I was planning on staying in the jungle. If just staying in the larger cities there will be no worries. Same with the Rabies vaccination.

He has travelled to S.A. twice and hasn't had the Typhoid, or Yellow Fever vaccinations. For malaria, he just took pills. He said that he would write me a rx for those.

Yellow Fever and malaria vaccination (or pills) are needed when traveling to Amazon or other cities nearby, even for people who lives in Brazil.

So to be on the safe side, just get each vaccine the CDC recommends then I guess?

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: July 20, 2014 02:24

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MingSubu
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alhavu1
What?! It's obvious just gotta be extra alert ... Do not carry wallet etcetc

Just asking, relax.

Dangerous seems a little extreme. South American cities are sounding just like any other city. Just have to have some street smarts.

Like I wrote on a previous post on this thread, South America can be as dangerous as other places in the world. I'm aware some people who've never been here before can maybe think we might have the highest crime rates in the world, based on some reports you maybe have read, but that's not the case. I'm not meaning SA is as safe as, say it, some European countries, but it's not the Hell's Kitchen some people can imagine. Obviously, everybody needs to be careful, just like in almost any capital of any country.

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: July 20, 2014 02:38

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MingSubu

So to be on the safe side, just get each vaccine the CDC recommends then I guess?

Yes, probably. But I will contact the local health autorities on monday to ask them about this and I will post here all the infos they might answer about this subject. cool smiley

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: TE ()
Date: July 20, 2014 07:01

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MingSubu
What are some popular foods in the areas that they might be playing in?

For Brazil, Bacalhau, with the use of imported Norwegian cod (not even a joke).

TE
Oslo

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: chriseganstar ()
Date: July 20, 2014 16:04

I have travelled pretty extensively in S. America, Venezuela, Colombia, Peru, Argentina and several times to Brazil (we have a property in the NE) and can say with all honesty it's little different from anywhere else in that you don't go out dressed like a tourist, no rolex, no camera round your neck, etc. etc. Caracas can be pretty dangerous (I got marched down the runway at gunpoint whilst coming back from a business trip there once, but that's another story !!!). Peru very safe, Bogota the same (although there are loads of police which is a good/bad thing), Brazil is no problem in Rio if you're sensible, worst City for crime in Brazil is Salvador imo, Sao Paulo can be dangerous (on business we had to have an armed escort to/from the hotel and work because of the hostage risk). Buenos Aires is a beautiful City, very European in appearance but do beware of the muggers (got me on my 1st day there.....throw gunk over you and come rushing up to help "clean" but steal everything you've got and beware of pickpockets in places like San Telmo Market...had my camera nicked out of a zipped pocket there). Outside River Plate don't speak English until you're safely away!!!!Back up your photos every day just in case !
I absolutely love S. America and we plan to start spending 6 months of every year in Brazil......I'm praying that the lads will play Fortaleza !!!
One tip.....do at least learn some rudimentary Latin American Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese.....it makes a world of difference if potential thieves think you understand what they're saying, plus it opens up your culinary and drinking experiences wonderfully !!
The other thing is that, well, sometimes going somewhere a bit "edgy" gets the juices flowing and makes you feel alive.
Go and enjoy S. America, you'll never, ever regret it !

Chriseganstar

Satisfied since 1976

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: July 20, 2014 16:45

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Cristiano, si tocan en Mvd, venis seguro , no? Donde vivis?

Por supuesto que si. Yo vivo en Porto Alegre.

Por aca te espero con gran asado y jam session Stone...cuento contigo!

Grande! Dalo por hecho! thumbs up

Epa, se armó una juntadita! Bien ahí! thumbs up
quique, hermano, estas totalmente invitado!!!

Gracias A., amigos + buena onda + asado + Stones = imposibble de perderse!

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: July 20, 2014 16:47

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MingSubu
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alhavu1
What?! It's obvious just gotta be extra alert ... Do not carry wallet etcetc

Just asking, relax.

Dangerous seems a little extreme. South American cities are sounding just like any other city. Just have to have some street smarts.

Right, you are staring to get it Ming! Just keep reading, studying and asking and you will have an excellent SA experience! Congrats for the willing and positive attitude!

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: July 20, 2014 17:01

I was going to answer every post here but after reading many stupidities that can even produce a hurt feeling I decided not to do it.
On the opposite side and thanks God, I have read also very coherence advices, clever words and thoughts and good sense!
I congratulate all the open minded people here! I hope you can come here, attend the Stones shows, have the best of the times, enjoy your stay, meet some cool people, learn something if you can and want from us and never forget the experience!
Best of the lucks to everybody!
And maybe when you return home you can write here your South American experience.

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: chriseganstar ()
Date: July 21, 2014 01:01

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Quique-stone
I was going to answer every post here but after reading many stupidities that can even produce a hurt feeling I decided not to do it.
On the opposite side and thanks God, I have read also very coherence advices, clever words and thoughts and good sense!
I congratulate all the open minded people here! I hope you can come here, attend the Stones shows, have the best of the times, enjoy your stay, meet some cool people, learn something if you can and want from us and never forget the experience!
Best of the lucks to everybody!
And maybe when you return home you can write here your South American experience.
See you next year !!!

Chriseganstar

Satisfied since 1976

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: July 25, 2014 23:29

Reading up on the Yellow Fever vaccine, you need to get it atleast 10 days before your trip. I found the above timeframe info on this site.
[wwwnc.cdc.gov]

It also states the same in my Lonely Planet and Fodor's South America travel guides.


For the Rabies vaccine, it is 3 doses over a 3 to 4 week period. This timeframe was also found in my travel guides and on the CDC website.
[www.cdc.gov]

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: July 26, 2014 08:54

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alhavu1
What?! It's obvious just gotta be extra alert ... Do not carry wallet etcetc

Where do you carry your money then, in your hand?

Re: Slightly OT: South America - Travel, Accommodations, Food, Safety
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:30

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treaclefingers

Where do you carry your money then, in your hand?

Booo! You have nylon pouches that you hide inside your clothes under your armpit... Very discreet and works fine. When you need to take a bit of local cash from the pouch just head to the loo. smoking smiley

I insist on carrying a wallet... with only a tiny bit of money in it. If you get mugged at gun point you have to have sth to give to your attacker. That's what wallets are for. Just leave only 10$ in it. winking smiley

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