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BILLPERKS
IT'S TEX WATSON

I think you're joking but clearly not.

THINGS WENT A BIT OFF THE RAILS AFTER THAT SHOW.
A MONTH LATER, ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE.

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swiss
And Mick worked on the "Lucifer Rising"/"Invocation"
soundtrack in November 1968.

"worked on..." is being very generous.

Yep, the guy sat in the deck chair next to Anger is the same as the one on stage...he's our man and if we could just work out the name from the Anger films - mystery solved.

I'm sure you are all aware that Invocation of my Demon Brother was largely made from the left overs from Lucifer Rising, so it's likely he 'stars' in both.

He must be the credited van leuven - acolyte person. The only one there seems to be nothing about anywhere.

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Yep, the guy sat in the deck chair next to Anger is the same as the one on stage...he's our man and if we could just work out the name from the Anger films - mystery solved.

I'm sure you are all aware that Invocation of my Demon Brother was largely made from the left overs from Lucifer Rising, so it's likely he 'stars' in both.

Maybe Haydn Couts (a Canadian motorcyclist) who was in Lucifer Rising [goregirlsdungeon.com]

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2000 LYFH

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crumbling_mice
Yep, the guy sat in the deck chair next to Anger is the same as the one on stage...he's our man and if we could just work out the name from the Anger films - mystery solved.

I'm sure you are all aware that Invocation of my Demon Brother was largely made from the left overs from Lucifer Rising, so it's likely he 'stars' in both.

Maybe Haydn Couts (a Canadian motorcyclist) who was in Lucifer Rising [goregirlsdungeon.com]

The nose and eyebrows seems bit different, but you may have gotten it. Here are the photos of Haydn Couts
from the above web site -- sorry for distortion.
- swiss

That second picture above definitely looks like it could be him, do I dare to hope??

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Aquamarine
That second picture above definitely looks like it could be him, do I dare to hope??

Watching or skimming thru all 28+ minutes of Lucifer Rising will shed light. I'm not up to
a close watch right now. I super quickly skimmed through it, and Haydn Couts is all over it.
Probably is he. Can someone watch this?






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swiss- good to see you again,any news on the altamont project? bv said something about not digging up old threads so maybe we should start a new one,that last one was really informative and interesting.

I dont think it's him. Could be because of make up though but no dont think so.

*sob*

It isn't Haydn.

Hey you two - don't make Aquamarine sob!
It could certainly be this Couts character. Look at the sideburns.
The guy in the main photo is certainly the one in the Hyde Park side-of-stage shots,
and from there to the film shots is not a major leap, even if the main photo under discussion seems too distant.
The lighting, angle and duhhh expression in that main photo could be making his chin and nose look blobbier than in the film.

Dry your tears Aquamarine, I think it's the Haydn guy too.

Sorry, but no . .!

Do we agree that the one guy next to Kenneth Anger [with his hand to his mouth] IS the same as the guy with our mystery man in the Anita photo (and photo of Marianne, Anita, et al.?)?


- swiss

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Do we agree that the one guy next to Kenneth Anger [with his hand to his mouth] IS the same as the guy with our mystery man in the Anita photo (and photo of Marianne, Anita, et al.?)?


- swiss

It could be the guy standing next to the mystery man in another picture, the man in between Anita and Marianne is Rebop a musician connected with Traffic.
The mystery man's name is nowhere in the pictures.



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Yeah, Swiss those 2 with Anger are the same as on the stage photos. So they seem to come from Angers people.However I don't think its Haydn.
Someone should just ask Marlon/Anita again with this knowledge . .
But we're near finally.

I can't stand it, so near yet so far. Has anyone asked Marianne??

It could still be Haydn, right???? (Apparently part of Lucifer Rising was filmed in Robert Fraser's apartment, which would be another connection. This link implies it included HC's scenes: http://goregirlsdungeon.com/tag/haydn-couts/ ) (Yes, I'm desperate.)



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" Anita does not know exactly how the young man in the photo is called",
I translated this from the German Stonestreff that had a similar thread a couple of years ago.

Thanks to Stonestreff

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Do we agree that the one guy next to Kenneth Anger [with his hand to his mouth] IS the same as the guy with our mystery man in the Anita photo (and photo of Marianne, Anita, et al.?)?


- swiss

I agree Swiss, both are the same guys from the stage (I assume this is when the Stones are playing - they went to get a better view). It seems only Marianne and son stayed on the stage (now standing) - Don't see Anita anymore.

Maybe if we knew who guy with the hand to the mouth was (next mystery)? Seems like that little kid is sitting on the end on mystery man's chair or even in his lap!

I believe Anger is still alive - I wonder if he takes questions?

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2000 LYFH

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swiss
Do we agree that the one guy next to Kenneth Anger [with his hand to his mouth] IS the same as the guy with our mystery man in the Anita photo (and photo of Marianne, Anita, et al.?)?

- swiss

I agree Swiss, both are the same guys from the stage (I assume this is when the Stones are playing - they went to get a better view). It seems only Marianne and son stayed on the stage (now standing) - Don't see Anita anymore.

Maybe if we knew who guy with the hand to the mouth was (next mystery)? Seems like that little kid is sitting on the end on mystery man's chair or even in his lap!

I believe Anger is still alive - I wonder if he takes questions?

I've tried to reach out to Kenneth Anger but so far no response...



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Why are people saying so definitively it isn't Haydn?
Do you not see that he's dressed the same in the main photo as he is in the side-of-stage shots?
Please point out what's making you say the face/sideburns in those shots is not the same as the lying-down shot from the film.



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lem motlow
swiss- good to see you again,any news on the altamont project? bv said something about not digging up old threads so maybe we should start a new one,that last one was really informative and interesting.

hi Lem,
Good to see you. That was a stimulating thread I hope to have some news this week. Thanks for asking!
- swiss

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Why are people saying so definitively it isn't Haydn?
Do you not see that he's dressed the same in the main photo as he is in the side-of-stage shots?
Please point out what's making you say the face/sideburns in those shots is not the same as the lying-down shot from the film.

The nose and something about the eyes, could be lights, make up or something.

Has anyone watched it? I just can't stomach it right now.

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The nose and something about the eyes, could be lights, make up or something.

But ... the shots are from completely different angles, and in the lying-down shot his eyes are closed.
Thank you for acknowledging that the differences you perceive could be a matter of lighting or whatever.
I don't get why Gemini and CousinC are stating so definitively that it's not Couts.

How about I state definitively that it is Couts - does that make it so? :E



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I don't get why Gemini and CousinC are stating so definitively that it's not Couts.

How about I state definitively that it is Couts - does that make it so?

That would make it a definite maybe

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It's definitely the guy on the Hyde Park stage next to Marianne. Anyway, he wears the same clothes!

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