Have sometimes wondered if Keith played it. any comments ?

what i mean is that the solo is very good, and am not sure if Keef had become such good a guitarplayer at the time of recording heart of stone,which was very early in their carreer.

It is played by Keith. But as far as I remember copying Jimmy Page`s solo/licks from the earlier session at Regent Sounds note by note.

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the notes (the scale ) is the very good, but what i admire as well is the spead of the playing, which i doubt that our keef had mastered at the time.

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the notes (the scale ) is the very good, but what i admire as well is the spead of the playing, which i doubt that our keef had mastered at the time.

??? Then better listen again to fast tracks like Carol, Route66, It`s All Over Now (solo) and so on. Like Keith stated: he copied J.Page.

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what i mean is that the solo is very good, and am not sure if Keef had become such good a guitarplayer at the time of recording heart of stone,which was very early in their carreer.

Listen to Little By Little from the first album

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what i mean is that the solo is very good, and am not sure if Keef had become such good a guitarplayer at the time of recording heart of stone,which was very early in their carreer.

Listen to Little By Little from the first album

That's a really nice solo but of a totally other category than the one on HOS.

this solo is quite easy, just a pentatonic minor run. that said, why is it so hard to understand that Keith always was a wonderful guitar player?

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what i mean is that the solo is very good, and am not sure if Keef had become such good a guitarplayer at the time of recording heart of stone,which was very early in their carreer.

Listen to Little By Little from the first album

That's a really nice solo but of a totally other category than the one on HOS.

What? Both are straight, simple, but cool rhythm & blues-solos. The only difference is that the solo on HOS is slower.

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It is played by Keith. But as far as I remember copying Jimmy Page`s solo/licks from the earlier session at Regent Sounds note by note.

Tom

I assume you are referring to the Metamorphosis version that Page played?

[en.wikipedia.org]

It's not note for note. I don't know how those rumours arise when we have both versions to listen to

Yes indeed, it could be Keith, the solo is quite simple. I'm messing it up with another one.

Yes indeed, it's Keith, the solo is actually quite simple. I recalled something wrong. Blame it on my old age.

No worries, kleerie

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Time is not on my side I guess Dandie.

after the steel guitar break on the outtake it DOES sound note for note played by Page that Keith copies but I'm glad he did ..its a great solo. Also when you check out "Little By Little" notice that it is EXACTLY Jimmy Reed's "Shame Shame Shame" with new lyrics..

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It is played by Keith. But as far as I remember copying Jimmy Page`s solo/licks from the earlier session at Regent Sounds note by note.

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I assume you are referring to the Metamorphosis version that Page played?

[en.wikipedia.org]

No, not that one, but the one you can hear in the the Chatlie Is My Darling film. I think it was also on an ALO Orchestra album from around that time.

This one?

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This one?

I have heard this version as well, but it can't be this one - as there isn't a guitar solo here.

Anyone has the third Page version, with the supposed solo Keith copied?

I wonder if anyone has heard this 2007 version by (former Deep Purple keyboardist) Jon Lord and the Hoochie Coochie Men. At the break, instead of a guitar solo, Lord provides a flourishing run on the Hammond organ (and featuring Jimmy Barnes on vocals).





From the album Danger: White Men Dancing

This One?

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This One?

I don't think so, as Page's solo here is different from Keith's...

The version of Heart Of Stones that features Page, is the one found on Metamorphisis. Page's effort is as sloppy as hell, but quite tune with his style at the time. Keith's effort is almost a kind of cleaned-up take on what Page previously recorded. Keith's solo sounds a little more clinical and worked-out. Page's sounds off-the-cuff and made-up on the spot.

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The version of Heart Of Stones that features Page, is the one found on Metamorphisis. Page's effort is as sloppy as hell, but quite tune with his style at the time. Keith's effort is almost a kind of cleaned-up take on what Page previously recorded. Keith's solo sounds a little more clinical and worked-out. Page's sounds off-the-cuff and made-up on the spot.

Exactly, and the intro of the solo is really what is similar about these two solos - except for Keith starting his intro on time, while Page waits half a bar...

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The version of Heart Of Stones that features Page, is the one found on Metamorphisis. Page's effort is as sloppy as hell, but quite tune with his style at the time. Keith's effort is almost a kind of cleaned-up take on what Page previously recorded. Keith's solo sounds a little more clinical and worked-out. Page's sounds off-the-cuff and made-up on the spot.

Exactly, and the intro of the solo is really what is similar about these two solos - except for Keith starting his intro on time, while Page waits half a bar...

But HM (now gone) stated that there is a 3rd version? He thought it was in the film "Charlie Is My Darling"? I have not seen it yet, does anyone have it? Maybe this 3rd version is a cleaned up version from the Metamorphisis version and then keith copied it!

If so:

Version 1 - Metamorphisis (sloppy lead by Page)
Version 2 - Clarlie is My Darling (clean lead by Page)
Version 3 - Stones version (clean lead By Keith - copied fron Version 2)

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The version of Heart Of Stones that features Page, is the one found on Metamorphisis. Page's effort is as sloppy as hell, but quite tune with his style at the time. Keith's effort is almost a kind of cleaned-up take on what Page previously recorded. Keith's solo sounds a little more clinical and worked-out. Page's sounds off-the-cuff and made-up on the spot.

Exactly, and the intro of the solo is really what is similar about these two solos - except for Keith starting his intro on time, while Page waits half a bar...

But HM (now gone) stated that there is a 3rd version? He thought it was in the film "Charlie Is My Darling"? I have not seen it yet, does anyone have it? Maybe this 3rd version is a cleaned up version from the Metamorphisis version and then keith copied it!

If so:

Version 1 - Metamorphisis (sloppy lead by Page)
Version 2 - Clarlie is My Darling (clean lead by Page)
Version 3 - Stones version (clean lead By Keith - copied fron Version 2)

I know, but isn't that the orchestra-version? And that one is without a guitar solo

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The version of Heart Of Stones that features Page, is the one found on Metamorphisis. Page's effort is as sloppy as hell, but quite tune with his style at the time. Keith's effort is almost a kind of cleaned-up take on what Page previously recorded. Keith's solo sounds a little more clinical and worked-out. Page's sounds off-the-cuff and made-up on the spot.

Exactly, and the intro of the solo is really what is similar about these two solos - except for Keith starting his intro on time, while Page waits half a bar...

But HM (now gone) stated that there is a 3rd version? He thought it was in the film "Charlie Is My Darling"? I have not seen it yet, does anyone have it? Maybe this 3rd version is a cleaned up version from the Metamorphisis version and then keith copied it!

If so:

Version 1 - Metamorphisis (sloppy lead by Page)
Version 2 - Clarlie is My Darling (clean lead by Page)
Version 3 - Stones version (clean lead By Keith - copied fron Version 2)

I know, but isn't that the orchestra-version? And that one is without a guitar solo

Maybe the ALO version is Version 4?

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Found this link: stone-relics thinks there is another (missing) version, but then vancouver says its the ALO version (could there be 2 ALO versions?)
[www.iorr.org]

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The version of Heart Of Stones that features Page, is the one found on Metamorphisis. Page's effort is as sloppy as hell, but quite tune with his style at the time. Keith's effort is almost a kind of cleaned-up take on what Page previously recorded. Keith's solo sounds a little more clinical and worked-out. Page's sounds off-the-cuff and made-up on the spot.

Exactly, and the intro of the solo is really what is similar about these two solos - except for Keith starting his intro on time, while Page waits half a bar...

But HM (now gone) stated that there is a 3rd version? He thought it was in the film "Charlie Is My Darling"? I have not seen it yet, does anyone have it? Maybe this 3rd version is a cleaned up version from the Metamorphisis version and then keith copied it!

If so:

Version 1 - Metamorphisis (sloppy lead by Page)
Version 2 - Clarlie is My Darling (clean lead by Page)
Version 3 - Stones version (clean lead By Keith - copied fron Version 2)

I know, but isn't that the orchestra-version? And that one is without a guitar solo

Maybe the ALO version is Version 4?

-or-

Found this link: stone-relics thinks there is another (missing) version, but then vancouver says its the ALO version (could there be 2 ALO versions?)
[www.iorr.org]

The Metamorphosis-version is an ALO-version as well, no?

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The version of Heart Of Stones that features Page, is the one found on Metamorphisis. Page's effort is as sloppy as hell, but quite tune with his style at the time. Keith's effort is almost a kind of cleaned-up take on what Page previously recorded. Keith's solo sounds a little more clinical and worked-out. Page's sounds off-the-cuff and made-up on the spot.

Exactly, and the intro of the solo is really what is similar about these two solos - except for Keith starting his intro on time, while Page waits half a bar...

But HM (now gone) stated that there is a 3rd version? He thought it was in the film "Charlie Is My Darling"? I have not seen it yet, does anyone have it? Maybe this 3rd version is a cleaned up version from the Metamorphisis version and then keith copied it!

If so:

Version 1 - Metamorphisis (sloppy lead by Page)
Version 2 - Clarlie is My Darling (clean lead by Page)
Version 3 - Stones version (clean lead By Keith - copied fron Version 2)

I know, but isn't that the orchestra-version? And that one is without a guitar solo

Maybe the ALO version is Version 4?

-or-

Found this link: stone-relics thinks there is another (missing) version, but then vancouver says its the ALO version (could there be 2 ALO versions?)
[www.iorr.org]

The Metamorphosis-version is an ALO-version as well, no?

I think so.

Anyway, this is what stone-relics wrote back in 2006:
<Anyone have this track in better quality? Its really an astonishing version...Dont know of it on Bootlegs. Its similar to the version on Metamorphosis, but is much longer and has an unbelievable guitar solo after the pedal steel solo.>

Could this be the missing version with the clean Page solo that Keith would copy?

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The version of Heart Of Stones that features Page, is the one found on Metamorphisis. Page's effort is as sloppy as hell, but quite tune with his style at the time. Keith's effort is almost a kind of cleaned-up take on what Page previously recorded. Keith's solo sounds a little more clinical and worked-out. Page's sounds off-the-cuff and made-up on the spot.

Exactly, and the intro of the solo is really what is similar about these two solos - except for Keith starting his intro on time, while Page waits half a bar...

But HM (now gone) stated that there is a 3rd version? He thought it was in the film "Charlie Is My Darling"? I have not seen it yet, does anyone have it? Maybe this 3rd version is a cleaned up version from the Metamorphisis version and then keith copied it!

If so:

Version 1 - Metamorphisis (sloppy lead by Page)
Version 2 - Clarlie is My Darling (clean lead by Page)
Version 3 - Stones version (clean lead By Keith - copied fron Version 2)

I know, but isn't that the orchestra-version? And that one is without a guitar solo

Maybe the ALO version is Version 4?

-or-

Found this link: stone-relics thinks there is another (missing) version, but then vancouver says its the ALO version (could there be 2 ALO versions?)
[www.iorr.org]

The Metamorphosis-version is an ALO-version as well, no?

I think so.

Anyway, this is what stone-relics wrote back in 2006:
<Anyone have this track in better quality? Its really an astonishing version...Dont know of it on Bootlegs. Its similar to the version on Metamorphosis, but is much longer and has an unbelievable guitar solo after the pedal steel solo.>

Could this be the missing version with the clean Page solo that Keith would copy?

I just listened to Heart of Stone "Metamorphosis" vinyl 3:46 and has a solo after the steel pedal, the same track is already posted here