Hello all,
Sorry if this has been addressed (to death). I read in Stones Gear that BW claims Ry Cooder played on the album version of Prodigal Son. I looked for the quote in his Blues Odyssey book but I couldn't find it (I didn't look that hard).

It's always been obvious to me that there are 2 (at least) guitar tracks on the BB cut but I never heard that Ry was the 2nd guitarist. I always thought it was KR at his 100% best and or some of the playing was sped up in the mix.

Thoughts?

No, he didn't.

No, just the four of them.

I don´t think they had even met Ry when Prodigal Son was recorded.

Line-up ‘Prodigal Son’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/BJ (harm)/CW (dr)

I have heard speculation, and maybe seen a quote about Dave Mason on Dear Doctor, but I've never heard about Cooder being involved as early as this...

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I have heard speculation, and maybe seen a quote about Dave Mason on Dear Doctor, but I've never heard about Cooder being involved as early as this...

You've probably read this quote here.

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I have heard speculation, and maybe seen a quote about Dave Mason on Dear Doctor, but I've never heard about Cooder being involved as early as this...

You've probably read this quote here.

No, I haven't, actually

Hmm. Do people really believe Ry played the slide on NE??

From Wiki / record

Additional personnel:
Nicky Hopkins – piano, tack piano, organ
Rocky Dijon – congas on "Sympathy for the Devil", "Stray Cat Blues" and "Factory Girl"
Ric Grech – fiddle on "Factory Girl"
Dave Mason – shehnai on "Street Fighting Man", mellotron (mandolin setting) on "Factory Girl"
Jimmy Miller – backing vocals on "Sympathy for the Devil"
Watts Street Gospel Choir – backing vocals on "Salt of the Earth"

From: [www.nzentgraf.de]

Line-up ‘Sympathy For The Devil’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bass, bvoc)/BJ (bvoc)/BW
(maracas, bvoc)/CW (dr, bvoc)/Nicky Hopkins (p, bvoc)/Anita Pallenberg
(bvoc)/Marianne Faithfull (bvoc)/Rocky Dijon (congas)
Line-up ‘No Expectations’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/BJ (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (perc)/
Nicky Hopkins (p)
Line-up ‘Dear Doctor’: MJ (voc, tamb)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/BW (bass)/BJ (harm)/
CW (dr)/Nicky Hopkins (tack p)/Dave Mason (gtr)
Line-up ‘Parachute Woman’: MJ (voc, harm)/KR (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/BJ (harm)
Line-up ‘Jig-Saw Puzzle’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/BJ (mellotron)/BW (bass, synth)/
CW (dr)/Nicky Hopkins (p)
Line-up ‘Street Fighting Man’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bass)/BJ (sitar, tamboura)/
CW (dr)/Nicky Hopkins (p)/Dave Mason (shehnai, bass dr)
Line-up ‘Prodigal Son’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/BJ (harm)/CW (dr)
Line-up ‘Stray Cat Blues’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/BJ (mellotron)/BW (bass)/
CW (dr)/Nicky Hopkins (p)/Rocky Dijon (congas)
Line-up ‘Factory Girl’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (perc)/Rocky Dijon
(congas)/Dave Mason (mandolin)/Rick Grech (fiddle)
Line-up ‘Salt Of The Earth’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, voc)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky
Hopkins (p)/Watts Street Gospel Choir (bvoc)

Silly stones gear.

A lovely chaos of credits

It is Mason on mellotron, and not Cooder on mandolin on FG, though...

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A lovely chaos of credits

It is Mason on mellotron, and not Cooder on mandolin on FG, though...

It is a mellotron, but no one involved has said who played the mellotron on that track, including Dave Mason.

Don't forget Ry's great fuzz guitar riff on Satisfaction...

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A lovely chaos of credits

It is Mason on mellotron, and not Cooder on mandolin on FG, though...

It is a mellotron, but no one involved has said who played the mellotron on that track, including Dave Mason.

Now, if I remember right: in that Beggars song-by-song interview with Richards from the late 80's or early 90's, didn't he state there that Nicky played the mandolin sound there? It's the same interview where he states that he played the slide on JSP.

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A lovely chaos of credits

It is Mason on mellotron, and not Cooder on mandolin on FG, though...

It is a mellotron, but no one involved has said who played the mellotron on that track, including Dave Mason.

Now, if I remember right: in that Beggars song-by-song interview with Richards from the late 80's or early 90's, didn't he state there that Nicky played the mandolin sound there? It's the same interview where he states that he played the slide on JSP.

Mathijs

Mathijs, when is pierre going to answer our guitar tech questions. i think he has some free time these days ?

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A lovely chaos of credits

It is Mason on mellotron, and not Cooder on mandolin on FG, though...

It is a mellotron, but no one involved has said who played the mellotron on that track, including Dave Mason.

Now, if I remember right: in that Beggars song-by-song interview with Richards from the late 80's or early 90's, didn't he state there that Nicky played the mandolin sound there? It's the same interview where he states that he played the slide on JSP.

Mathijs

Mathijs, when is pierre going to answer our guitar tech questions. i think he has some free time these days ?

I don't know, and with the circumstances I don't want to push in any way.

Mathijs

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Mathijs

Now, if I remember right: in that Beggars song-by-song interview with Richards from the late 80's or early 90's, didn't he state there that Nicky played the mandolin sound there? It's the same interview where he states that he played the slide on JSP.

Mathijs

Keith said Nicky suggested they should have violin/fiddle on the track.



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Didn't Ry Cooder also play on start me up and do lead vocals as well?

Go Dawgs!

I just asked Dave. Will be interesting to see if he'll get back to me

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A lovely chaos of credits

It is Mason on mellotron, and not Cooder on mandolin on FG, though...

It is a mellotron, but no one involved has said who played the mellotron on that track, including Dave Mason.

Now, if I remember right: in that Beggars song-by-song interview with Richards from the late 80's or early 90's, didn't he state there that Nicky played the mandolin sound there? It's the same interview where he states that he played the slide on JSP.

Mathijs

Mathijs, when is pierre going to answer our guitar tech questions. i think he has some free time these days ?

I don't know, and with the circumstances I don't want to push in any way.

Mathijs

ok, i understand .

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His Majesty

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DandelionPowderman
A lovely chaos of credits

It is Mason on mellotron, and not Cooder on mandolin on FG, though...

It is a mellotron, but no one involved has said who played the mellotron on that track, including Dave Mason.

Now, if I remember right: in that Beggars song-by-song interview with Richards from the late 80's or early 90's, didn't he state there that Nicky played the mandolin sound there? It's the same interview where he states that he played the slide on JSP.

Mathijs

Mathijs, when is pierre going to answer our guitar tech questions. i think he has some free time these days ?

I don't know, and with the circumstances I don't want to push in any way.

Mathijs

ok, i understand .

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