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I think there are a few misunderstandings here

- Yes, Taylor mainly sticks to the pentatonic scale, be it in major or minor, or he is mixing those in one solo, which is very common for any guitarist.

- The above is NOT a bad thing. My guess is that Mathijs was referring to Dead Flowers on L&G as an example of how this can be done in a rather uninspired way - to illustrate that Taylor's playing on the last Stones tours at times sounded as he was bored (something he has confirmed himself).

- Ronnie Wood has never "tried" to copy Taylor's solos. He pays homeage to Taylor, where the parts of his solos are essential to the songs (All Down The Line, CYHMK, Fingerprint File's bass etc). Other times, when the solos can be improved (there are a few), f.i. on If You Can't Rock Me, Happy, Tumblin' Dice and others - the solos are totally different. The "copying" is misunderstood.

- AND: If you have played guitar a few years, you'll find that it's not hard, not at all, to play what Taylor plays. However, it's very hard to play it as beautiful as he did when he was on top of his game (Ya Ya's: SCB, SFTD).

Hmm...I never said Wood tried to "copy" Taylor's parts, but he did try to emulate them on several songs, and is still doing so. On the contrary when Taylor started playing with the Stones he created new parts for songs like Satisfaction, I'm Free, Stray Cat Blues, etc. He didn't bother trying to emulate what Brian (or Keith) had done on the records. I know this isn't a Taylor/Wood debate exactly but to me it shows that they were different kinds of musicians. Perhaps it can be argued that in 1969 the Stones were more open to reimagining their catalog for the stage than they were later when Wood was in the band, but I do think when Taylor heard a song he looked for an opportunity to put his own stamp on it, and I believe this approach was far more musically compelling than what they have been doing the last 20+ years, which is more and more trying to copy the records, both in arrangement and tempo.

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Very good rythm guitar by Mick Taylor. The best guitar work on Tattoo you is the two tracks Taylor plays on.

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Very good rythm guitar by Mick Taylor. The best guitar work on Tattoo you is the two tracks Taylor plays on.

He only plays on one...

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Very good rythm guitar by Mick Taylor. The best guitar work on Tattoo you is the two tracks Taylor plays on.

He only plays on one...

He played on TOPS as well, didn't he? Or was that the one you were referring to? Or Woody played it in the end? idk...

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Taylor played - and it is on the album - on Tops. That's all.

The best rhythm work? What about it? Whaddayamean what about it? What about it? It's there! Keith and Ronnie!

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That's Mick Taylor playing on Waiting on a Friend, not Keith Richards. He wasn't at the WAOF recording sessions.

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It's amazing what emotionally it will be when it is a question of who played what on a song recorded by The Rolling Stones. Personally I think Mick, Keith, Charlie,Mick T, Bill and Ronnie should write a book together about this, who'S PLAYING what on ALL OUR SONGS SO that IT WILL BE CLEARED OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL!

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Didn't Mick Taylor play on Waiting on a Friend at the Kansas 1981 show?

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It's amazing what emotionally it will be when it is a question of who played what on a song recorded by The Rolling Stones. Personally I think Mick, Keith, Charlie,Mick T, Bill and Ronnie should write a book together about this, who'S PLAYING what on ALL OUR SONGS SO that IT WILL BE CLEARED OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL!

Or better, their sound engineers and co-producers should write it. The band members seem a bit lost on who did what back then

A couple of nuggets:

"I wrote all the ballads"
- Mick Taylor

"I played Little T+A in open G"
- Keith Richards

"We've never played this one before (Torn And Frayed)
- Mick Jagger in 2002

"I was at the Hyde Park Concert in 1969"
- Ron Wood

"We played it live at the Ed Sullivan Show" (Mother's Little Helper)
- Charlie Watts

"I wrote Jumping Jack Flash"
- Bill Wyman

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Very good rythm guitar by Mick Taylor. The best guitar work on Tattoo you is the two tracks Taylor plays on.

He only plays on one...

Two actually: Tops and Waiting on a Friend, which you don't seem to hear.
It's the visual image broadcasted by the TV channels that stays in your memories. That's Mick Taylor playing on Waiting on a Friend, not Keith Richards. He wasn't at the WAOF recording sessions.

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Very good rythm guitar by Mick Taylor. The best guitar work on Tattoo you is the two tracks Taylor plays on.

He only plays on one...

Two actually: Tops and Waiting on a Friend, which you don't seem to hear.
It's the visual image broadcasted by the TV channels that stays in your memories. That's Mick Taylor playing on Waiting on a Friend, not Keith Richards. He wasn't at the WAOF recording sessions.

He wasn't at the sessions? So how did he then end up on the basic track recordings recorded at these very same sessions like Winter, Tops, You Should Have Seen Her Ass, Through The Lonely Nights, Heartbreaker, Criss Cross, Angie, and his own Coming Down Again?

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I thought Mick Taylor played the whole show at KC in 1981? I must be wrong as this would seem impossible and risky for many reasons - would have loved to
Witness it though no matter what the outcome!

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I thought Mick played the rhythm guitar on Winter?

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I thought Mick played the rhythm guitar on Winter?

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I thought Mick played the rhythm guitar on Winter?

OK now you've done it. You're confusing us all with your broad statement of a question. Maybe the question should be 'how many Mick's does it take to record a song without Keith?' or... 'With only Keith recording guitar on WOAF how can a Mick be playing guitar on a track that he doesn't play guitar on?'

You know, like that, and everything.

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I thought Mick played the rhythm guitar on Winter?

He does. It doesn't sound remotely like Keith and no-one has ever suggested Keith played on it, as far as I know.

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I thought Mick played the rhythm guitar on Winter?

OK now you've done it. You're confusing us all with your broad statement of a question. Maybe the question should be 'how many Mick's does it take to record a song without Keith?' or... 'With only Keith recording guitar on WOAF how can a Mick be playing guitar on a track that he doesn't play guitar on?'

You know, like that, and everything.

Mick in the Stones will ALWAYS be Mick Jagger. Confusing? Nope

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I thought Mick played the rhythm guitar on Winter?

OK now you've done it. You're confusing us all with your broad statement of a question. Maybe the question should be 'how many Mick's does it take to record a song without Keith?' or... 'With only Keith recording guitar on WOAF how can a Mick be playing guitar on a track that he doesn't play guitar on?'

You know, like that, and everything.

Mick in the Stones will ALWAYS be Mick Jagger. Confusing? Nope

Wrong answer! You got Micks on several songs without Keiths or Ronnies...

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No one has suggest Keith has played on Winter? Ha ha. There's always confusion somewhere. Why, Keith plays on Saint Of Me... live.