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The Black Box
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: August 31, 2012 11:40

Having recently acquired a two CD boot called Black Box, I was curious about its origins. I was reading here about Bill saying he started such a project with that name but that Mick wanted to control everything. Are the inclusions on the boot Black Box in any relation to what Bill was choosing? Do we have any idea what Bill had in mind?

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 31, 2012 12:08



...........The Rolling Stones Illustrated Record - Roy Carr



ROCKMAN

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: rootsman ()
Date: August 31, 2012 12:10

From Felix Aeppli´s site:

JUNE, 1975
THE BLACK BOX, COMPILED BY BILL WYMAN (DECCA ACETATE, ALTERNATIVE
TO METAMORPHOSIS)
A1 Bright Lights, Big City (Reed)
A2 Cops And Robbers (Harris)
A3 I’d Much Rather Be With The Boys (Oldham, Richards)
A4 Little Red Rooster (Dixon)
A5 Down The Road Apiece (Raye)
A6 Don’t Lie To Me (Whittaker)
B1 If You Let Me
B2 Godzi (Nanker, Phelge)
B3 Panama Powder Room
B4 Gold Painted Nails
B5 Fanny Mae (Brown, Robinson)
B6 Down In The Bottom (Dixon)
Cut A1: Recorded at IBC Studios, London, March 11, 1963.
Cut A2: Recorded at Camden Theatre, London, March 19, 1964.
Cut A3: Recorded at Demo session, Decca Studios, London, late February, 1965.
Cut A4, A5: Recorded on the British tour, March 5-18, 1965.
Cut A6: Recorded at Chess Studios, Chicago, June 10 or 11, 1964.
Cut B1: Recorded at Olympic Sound Studios, London, November 9-26, 1966.
Cuts B2, B3: Recorded at RCA Studios, Hollywood, August 4-12, 1966.
Cut B4: Recorded at Olympic Sound Studios, London, October 16, 21 or 23, 1967.
Cut B5: Recorded at “Saturday Club”, BBC radio show, August 20, 1965.
Cut B6: Recorded at Chess Studios, Chicago, June 11, 1964.
NOTES: Cut A6: At the time mistakenly entitled Let’s Talk It Over.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: August 31, 2012 22:56

Thank you. It sounds like an earlier 'Rarities', with Bill not airbrushed out.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: September 1, 2012 20:51

yeah, there should have been tracks on it we never heard on any boot so far. funny, first I thought of keiths drug rehab...

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: 1963luca0 ()
Date: September 1, 2012 21:21

I APOLOGISE FOR THE EMOTICONS: THEY'RE NOT IN MY ORIGINAL FILE AND HAVE APPEARED EVEN IF NO REQUIRED.ENJOY:

“METAMORPHOSIS”

IT TOOK THREE YEARS OF MAJOR AND MINOR CHANGES TO RELEASE TWO FINAL VERSIONS OF ‘METAMORPHOSIS’. THE ALBUMS WERE OUT IN TIME FOR THE FIRST VENUES OF THE 1975 TOUR OF AMERICA; EVEN IF ROLLING STONES RECORDS PROMOTED THE TOUR WITH THEIR OWN FIRST GREATEST HITS COMPILATION ALBUM, ALL THE INTEREST WAS CAPTURED BY THE LONG AWAITED AND MUCH RUMOURED ‘METAMORPHOSIS’. THE HISTORY OF ‘METAMORPHOSIS’ BEGINS IN 1972 WHEN KLEIN’S ABKCO RECORDS WAS ALLOWED TO RELEASE ONE MORE ALBUM OF IN-EDIT MUSIC, THE LAST ONE, AS FROM THE SETTLEMENT BETWEEN KLEIN HIMSELF AND THE ROLLING STONES. THE CHOSEN FATHER OF THE FORTHCOMING NEWBORN WAS ALLAN (a.k.a. AL) STECKLER. INSTEAD OF GATHERING B-SIDES AND MINOR HITS, HE PREFERRED TO GO BACK TO THE DUSTY ARCHIVES AND TRIED TO GIVE LIFE TO SONGS LEFT DEAD IN THE VAULTS. MAYBE, HE THOUGHT - WITH SELF IRONY - THAT A LITTLE DOSE OF NECROPHILIA WAS REQUIRED WHEN DIGGING SONGS OUT OF DUST AND ‘NECROPHILIA’ WAS THE PROPOSED TITLE FOR HIS COMPILATION. HE TEAMED WITH FABIO NICOLI (ART DIRECTOR AND COVER DESIGNER) AND ANDREW OLDHAM (PRODUCER) AND THEIR PROJECT GOT VERY CLOSE TO THE FINAL OKAY. ‘NECROPHILIA’ WAS GIVEN A CATALOGUE NUMBER (ABKCO AB-4224), SOME HARD-CARD TRIPLE GATEFOLD PROOF SLEEVES WERE MADE AND SOME ACETATES WERE MADE AT THE STERLING SOUND STUDIOS, NYC, ON 12 OCTOBER 1972. TWO OF THE 17 SONGS OF THE ACETATES ARE NOT LISTED ON COVER TRACK-LISTING AND SO WE CAN SUPPOSE THAT SLEEVES WERE PRINTED AT A LATER TIME. THE TWO-SIDED ACETATE PLAYS:
· A1. OUT OF TIME
· A2. DON’T LIE TO ME
· A3. HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR MOTHER, BABY, STANDING IN THE SHADOWS
· A4. THINK
· A5. HEAR IT
· A6. SOMETHING JUST STICK IN YOUR MIND
· A7. AFTERMATH (Nanker-Phelge)
· A8. I’D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE BOYS (Richards-Oldham)
· A9. ANDREW’S BLUES (Nanker-Phelge-Spector)
· B1. PAY YOUR DUES
· B2. LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL
· B3. HEART OF STONE
· B4. EACH AND EVERYDAY OF THE YEAR
· B5. SLEEPY CITY
· B6. TRY A LITTLE HARDER
· B7. BLUE TURNS TO GREY
· B8. WE’RE WASTING TIME
SONGS ‘DON’T LIE TO ME’(A2) AND ‘LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL’(B2) WERE DROPPED AND DO NOT APPEAR ON THE AFORE MENTIONED DEFINITIVE TRACK-LISTING PRINTED ON PROOF SLEEVES.
FABIO NICOLI USED A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE GROUP SHOT BY GERED MANKOWITZ IN PREPARATION OF ‘BETWEEN THE BUTTONS’ ALBUM COVER AND ANDREW OLDHAM PROVIDED THE USUAL NOTES FOR BACK COVER. WITH PROOF SLEEVES MADE AND EVERYTHING ELSE READY FOR THE FINAL STEP THE PROJECT WAS STOPPED - AS FAR AS KNOWN - BEFORE THE MAKING OF TEST PRESSINGS. IT’S HARD TO TELL THE REASON WHY THIS PROJECT WAS STOPPED. WE CAN SAY THAT THE ALBUM WAS NOT CONSIDERED BELOW THE GROUP’S STANDARD LEVEL OF QUALITY (NINE OF THESE SONGS WILL BE OKAYED FOR ‘METAMORPHOSIS’), WE CAN SAY THAT THE TITLE COULD BE EASILY CHANGED IF CONSIDERED TOO ‘STRONG’ OR OFFENSIVE. AT LAST, WE CAN SUPPOSE THAT THE EXPLOSIVE SUCCESS OF THE ROLLING STONES’ LATEST TOUR OF AMERICA COULD DEMAND A BEST SELLER ALBUM FOR CHRISTMAS TIME AND NOT A COLLECTION OF LEFTOVERS.
‘NECROPHILIA’ WAS SHELVED, BUT NOT FORGOTTEN. IN 1974, ALLEN KLEIN AND THE TEAM BILL WYMAN/CHARLIE WATTS COMPILED, SEPARATELY, 2 SETS TO BE PROPOSED TO DECCA MANAGEMENT IN TAPE FORM.
“WE WANTED TO HAVE IT DONE HISTORICALLY, SO THAT IT WOULD HAVE AT LEAST HAD A VALUE TO COLLECTORS”(BILL WYMAN) AND SO “WE SPENT MONTHS GOING OVER MATERIAL”(CHARLIE WATTS) AND “WE PROVIDED AN ALBUM WHICH HE (KLEIN) TURNED DOWN. I SELECTED ABOUT 18 TITLES, LAID IT ALL OUT HISTORICALLY, WITH DETAILS”(BILL WYMAN.)
THE WATTS AND WYMAN’S SELECTION WAS QUICKLY RENAMED ‘THE BLACK BOX’ DUE TO ITS PROPOSED PACKAGE CONSISTING OF A THIN BLACK BOX TOGETHER WITH A BOOKLET OF OLD PHOTOGRAPHS, PRESS CLIPPINGS AND RELATED EPHEMERA AND TIED WITH A RED RIBBON. ACCORDING TO THE VERY FEW INFORMATION WE HAVE KLEIN SELECTED 14 SONGS (8 OF WHICH FROM THE REJECTED ‘NECROPHILIA’ PROJECT) AND WYMAN 12 SONGS (ONLY 2 OF THEM WERE ON ‘NECROPHILIA’ TOO).
ONCE AGAIN, ACETATES OF BOTH SELECTIONS WERE MADE AND PLAY:

DISC ONE (ALLEN KLEIN’S SELECTION)
· 1. OUT OF TIME (A)
· 2. DON’T LIE TO ME (A,cool smiley
· 3. SOMETHING JUST STICK IN YOUR MIND (A)
· 4. EACH AND EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR (A)
· 5. I’D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE BOYS (Richards-Oldham)(A, cool smiley
· 6. SLEEPY CITY
· 7. WE’RE WASTING TIME (A)
· 8. TRY A LITTLE HARDER (A)
· 9. SATISFACTION (live version)
· 10. FANNY MAE (Levy-Glasco-Lewis)(cool smiley
· 11. I DON’T KNOW WHY (Riser-Hunter-Judkins-Hardaway)
· 12. DOWNTOWN SUZIE (Wyman)
· 13. MEMO FROM TURNER
· 14. I’M GOING DOWN

A.....ALSO ON ‘NECROPHILIA’ ACETATE;
B.....BOTH ON KLEIN’S AND WYMAN’S SELECTIONS;
C.....ALSO ON BILL WYMAN’S SELECTION FOR ‘THE BLACK BOX’

DISC TWO (BILL WYMAN’S SELECTION)
· 1. IF YOU LET ME
· 2. GODZI
· 3. PANAMA POWDER ROOM
· 4. GOLD PAINTED NAILS
· 5. FANNY MAE (Levy-Glasco-Lewis)(cool smiley
· 6. DOWN IN THE BOTTOM (Dixon) - a.k.a. MEET IN THE BOTTOM
· 7. BRIGHT LIGHTS, BIG CITY (Reed)
· 8. COPS AND ROBBERS (McDaniel)
· 9. I’D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE BOYS (Richards-Oldham) (A, cool smiley
· 10. LITTLE RED ROOSTER(live at Regal Theatre, Edmonton, London on 5.3.66)(Dixon)
· 11. DOWN THE ROAD APIECE(live at Regal Theatre, Edmonton, London on 5.3.66)(Raye)
· 12. DON’T LIE TO ME (A, cool smiley

NO PROOF SLEEVES ARE KNOWN TO EXIST, NO CATALOGUE NUMBER WAS CHOSEN AND NO TEST PRESSINGS HAVE EVER SURFACED, BY NOW. “WE GAVE HIM (KLEIN) OUR ALBUM AND HE SAID NO” (CHARLIE WATTS). ONCE AGAIN, THE PROJECT WAS STOPPED.
IN 1975, TWO COMPILATION ALBUMS WERE PREPARED. THE FORMER WAS CALLED ‘STONE RELICS’ AND WAS STOPPED, AS USUAL, AT THE ACETATE STAGE. ITS SELECTION INCLUDED SOME WELL-KNOWN A’s AND B-SIDES , BUT ALSO WAS ENRICHED WITH FOUR UNTURNED STONES:
‘STONE RELICS’
· 1. LOOKING TIRED
· 2. TELL ME, BABY (Broonzy)
· 3. DOWN IN THE BOTTOM (Dixon)(C) - a.k.a. MEET ME IN THE BOTTOM
· 4. HI-HEEL SNEAKERS (Higgenbotham)
· ?. A NUMBER OF PREVIOUSLY RELEASED SONGS

‘STONE RELICS’ - A BRITISH DECCA RECORDS ACETATE - WAS ABANDONED WHEN DECCA RECEIVED THE SET OF TAPES OF ‘METAMORPHOSIS’ AS PART OF ABKCO AGREEMENT. THE SONGS OF THESE TAPES HAD TO BE CONSIDERED MUCH MORE WORTH OF RELEASE THAN THE BRITISH EFFORT OF ‘STONE RELICS’ WAS. THE TAPES WERE RECORDED ON TWO DIFFERENT ACETATES BOTH KNOWN AS ‘METAMORPHOSIS’. THE FIRST ACETATE IS ONE-SIDED AND INCLUDES 7 SONGS; EXCEPT FOR TWO DIFFERENT MIXES (‘FANNY MAE’ AND ‘I’M GOING DOWN’) IT COLLIDES WITH THE B-SIDE OF THE DEFINITIVE BRITISH VERSION OF THE ALBUM. THE OTHER ACETATE WAS OKAYED AND BECAME THE BRITISH ‘METAMORPHOSIS’ WE ALL KNOW.

‘METAMORPHOSIS’ ACETATE 1
· 1. I DON’T KNOW WHY (Riser-Hunter-Judkins-Hardaway)
· 2. IF YOU LET ME
· 3. JIVING SISTER FANNY (mix 1)
· 4. DOWNTOWN SUZIE (Wyman)
· 5. FAMILY
· 6. MEMO FROM TURNER
· 7. I’M GOING DOWN (mix 1)

‘METAMORPHOSIS’ ACETATE 2
· A1. OUT OF TIME (A)
· A2. DON’T LIE TO ME (A)
· A3. SOMETHING JUST STICK IN YOUR MIND (A)
· A4. EACH AND EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR (A)
· A5. HEART OF STONE (A)
· A6. I’D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE BOYS (Richards-Oldham) (A)
· A7. SLEEPY CITY (A)
· A8. WE’RE WATING TIME (A)
· A9. TRY A LITTLE HARDER (A)
· B1. I DON’T KNOW WHY (Riser-Hunter-Judkins-Hardaway)
· B2. IF YOU LET ME
· B3. JIVING SISTER FANNY (mix 2)
· B4. DOWNTOWN SUZIE (Wyman)
· B5. FAMILY
· B6. MEMO FROM TURNER
· B7. I’M GOING DOWN (mix 2)

THE OLD MANKOVITZ/NICOLI COVER HAS BEEN SUBSTITUTED WITH LINDA GUYMON’S GRAPHIC, AL (a.k.a. ALLAN) STECKLER - DO YOU REMEMBER HIM? - IS STILL CREDITED AS RESEARCHER AND COMPILER OF THE SELECTION AND ANDREW OLDHAM’S LINER NOTES HAVE BEEN PRESERVED AND USED - PLEASE, TAKE NOTE - WITHOUT ANY CORRECTION FOR ‘METAMORPHOSIS’.
OLDHAM QUOTES AND THANKS A LOT OF FRIENDS FOR THEIR HELP IN PLAYING ALONGSIDE WITH THE ROLLING STONES IN THE SONGS OF ‘NECROPHILIA’/’METAMORPHOSIS’. THE MATTER IS THAT HIS LIST OF MUSICIANS WAS COMPILED FOR THE ORIGINAL TRACK-LISTING OF ‘NECROPHILIA’, BUT ONLY 9 OF THE PREVIOUSLY SELECTED SONGS ARE ON ‘METAMORPHOSIS’. JUST FOR EXAMPLE, THE PRESENCE OF GENE PITNEY, GRAHAM NASH AND PHIL SPECTOR WAS STRICTLY RELATED TO ‘ANDREW’S BLUES’; THE SONG’S BEEN SCRATCHED, BUT THEIR NAMES ARE CREDITED ON COVER LINER OF ‘METAMORPHOSIS’. “IT’S JUST A LOT OF JUNK REALLY”(CHARLIE WATTS).

ANYWAY, ON 6 JUNE 1975 THE ALBUMS WERE IN THE SHOPS:
‘METAMORPHOSIS’ (GB, DECCA RECORDS SKL 5212)
· A1. OUT OF TIME (3:20)
· A2. DON’T LIE TO ME (2:00)
· A3. SOMETHING JUST STICK IN YOUR MIND (2:25) - NOT ON USA EDITION
· A4. EACH AND EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR (2:48)
· A5. HEART OF STONE (3:46)
· A6. I’D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE BOYS (2:09)(Richards-Oldham)
· A7. SLEEPY CITY (2:50)
· A8. WE’RE WASTING TIME (2:41) - NOT ON USA EDITION
· A9. TRY A LITTLE HARDER (2:16)
· B1. I DON’T KNOW WHY (3:00)(Riser-Hunter-Judkins-Hardaway)
· B2. IF YOU LET ME (3:18)
· B3. JIVING SISTER FANNY (2:45, mix 2)
· B4. DOWNTOWN SUZIE (3:51)(Wyman)
· B5. FAMILY (3:30)
· B6. MEMO FROM TURNER (2:42)
· B7. I’M GOING DOWN (2:50, mix 2)

‘METAMORPHOSIS’ (USA, ABKCO RECORDS ANA-1)
· A1. OUT OF TIME (3:20)
· A2. DON’T LIE TO ME (2:00)
· A3. EACH AND EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR (2:48)
· A4. HEART OF STONE (3:46)
· A5. I’D MUCH RATER BE WITH THE BOYS (2:09) (Richards-Oldham)
· A6. SLEEPY CITY (2:50)
· A7. TRY A LITTLE HARDER (2:16)
· B1. I DON’T KNOW WHY (3:00)(Riser-Hunter-Judkins-Hardaway)
· B2. IF YOU LET ME (3:18)
· B3. JIVING SISTER FANNY (2:45, mix 2)
· B4. DOWNTOWN SUZIE (3:51)(Wyman)
· B5. FAMILY (3:20)
· B6. MEMO FROM TURNER (2:42)
· B7. I’M GOING DOWN (2:50, mix 2)


SINCE IT’S RELEASE, ‘METAMORPHOSIS’ NEVER REACHED THE STATUS OF A MAJOR ROLLING STONES RECORD. IT’S NEVER BEEN RE-MASTERED, IT’S NEVER BEEN AVAILABLE ON CD AND IT’S NOT IN PRINT ANYMORE; THE LAST RE-ISSUE WAS STARTED IN SEPTEMBER 1988 BY GERMAN LONDON RECORDS AND WAS STOPPED IN MARCH 1990. WHETHER ‘METAMORPHOSIS’ IS ROLLING STONES MUSIC OR NOT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEBATED MANY A TIMES AND I DON’T THINK IT WOULD BE SOMEHOW USEFULL TO DISCUSS THIS SUBJECT ONCE MORE. SURELY ‘METAMORPHOSIS’ IS NOT THE BEST - OR THE MOST INTERESTING, IF YOU PREFER - COMPILATION THAT COULD BE ARRANGED FROM THE BUNCH OF SONGS SELECTED BY THE TRIO STECKLER, KLEIN & WYMAN.

AS FAR AS KNOWN, SONGS THAT REMAINED IN THE ACETATES ARE:

1. AFTERMATH (Nanker-Phelge)
2. ANDREW’S BLUES (Nanker-Phelge-Spector)
3. BRIGHT LIGHTS, BIG CITY (Reed)
4. COPS AND ROBBERS (McDaniles)
5. DOWN IN THE BOTTOM (Dixon) - a.k.a. MEET ME IN THE BOTTOM
6. DOWN THE ROAD APIECE (live version)(Raye)
7. FANNY MAE (Levy-Glasco-Lewis)
8. GODZI
9. GOLD PAINTED NAILS
10. HEAR IT
11. HI-HEEL SNEAKERS (Higgenbotham)
12. I’M GOING DOWN (mix 1)
13. JIVING SISTER FANNY (mix 1)
14. LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL
15. LITTLE RED ROOSTER (live version)(Dixon)
16. LOOKING TIRED
17. PANAMA POWDER ROOM (instrumental)
18. PAY YOUR DUES
19. SATISFACTION (live version)(only if not from ‘got LIVE if you want it!’LP)
20. TELL ME, BABY (Broonzy)

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: September 1, 2012 22:23

Metamorphosis is indeed a mess.

All those old dusty tunes, some well known (IBC, BBC), and some never heard, just sitting there. The 50th Anniversary is quickly passing. ABKCO, your opportunity is sailing.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: September 2, 2012 01:11

Certainly some tunes I have never heard the Stones play. Very surprised if we don't see some sort of re-release of these next year. peace

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: September 2, 2012 08:41

And thank you for the exhaustive research 1963lucaO.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: 1963luca0 ()
Date: September 2, 2012 12:09

You're welcome. No big effort, actually, I had the file ready as I published it in one of my book, years ago. As you've noticed, it's not up-dated and still reports 'Metamorphosis' as un-reissued and un-released on CD!
Have a nice Sunday, Luca

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: LiveAtHidepark ()
Date: September 2, 2012 12:23

If somebody can help.

I am looking for a "Record Collector" issue including an article about a "Black Box" acetate.

Complete scan of the article of course welcomed, but if you, the owner, do not have time to scan, please just indicate "issue number ... from ...date..."

Thanks in advance.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: September 2, 2012 12:38

thank you

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: September 2, 2012 15:11

Interesting reading, 1963luca0. Thank you.

By the way those unwanted emoticons are because the combination "Capital B" + "closing bracket" = "dude in sunglasses". Put a space between the B and the ) and he will go away.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: September 2, 2012 20:30

This may be the best answered query in the history of IORR

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: September 3, 2012 02:28

I've added a link to this one in the Tracking Cookie - if only because I'm sure I'll be wanting to find it again in the future!

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Title5Take1 ()
Date: September 3, 2012 04:54

For historical interest, I'll immodestly repost the quote that indirectly started this thread, that I originally posted on the "How Mick stalled..." thread.

Bill Wyman in MUSICIAN MAGAZINE, 1981:

MUSICIAN MAGAZINE: "It occurs to me that when it's the Stones' turn to do your version of THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT, you'll be the one to put it together."

BILL WYMAN: "No, because Mick doesn't like people to have that kind of freedom. He'd much rather be on top of all the Rolling Stones projects. Oh, I was involved in a project doing `The Black Box,' which involved releasing some old material, but that was because Mick was too busy. So I took that over...a little thing like that."

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: September 3, 2012 18:22

Those live renditions of Little Red Rooster and Down The Road Apiece are what interest me the most. I'm guessing they are professionally recorded. It makes me wonder how many Brian-era shows were taped. Of course, a few of those studio tracks have yet to be heard too: The track titled 'Aftermath' sounds intriguing.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Ricky ()
Date: July 19, 2023 01:30

More info about The Black Box in this video (around minute 2:22):

[youtu.be]

many lists there... I try to copy all:



Master copies from ????
1. PERSONAL RADIO INTROS FOR BIG HITS ALBUM, CHRISTMAS
2. MORE CHRISTMAS JINGLES
3. HONKY TONK WOMAN

1. OUT OF TIME
2. DON'T LIE TO ME
3. ??? HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR MOTHER ???

1 LITTLE RED ROOSTER
2 DOWN THE ROAD APIECE
3 CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME
4 I'D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE BOYS
5 EACH AND EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR

Black Box 1974
1 BRIGHT LIGHTS, BIG CITY March 63
2 COPS AND ROBBERS 19.3.64
3 LITTLE RED ROOSTER 13.9.64
4 DOWN THE ROAD APIECE 15.9.64
5 I'D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE Autumn 64
6 TELL ME BABY May 65
7 MEET ME IN THE BOTTOM May 65


Choices Bill STU Mick Keith Charlie
Reelin & Rockin' - - X X
Cops & Robbers X X X X X
I'd Much Rather Be With TB - X X X
Little Red Rooster (LIVE) X X X X X
Down The Road Apiece (LIVE) X X X X X
Heart Of Stone - - /
It's Been Quiet Here At Home - - /
Fanny Mae - X X
Try A Little Harder
High Heeled Sneakers
Tell Me Baby X X - X
Meet Me In The Bottom X X - X X
Lookin' Tired X X - - X
Don't Lie To Me / Let's Talk It Over
Wastin' Time - - X X
If You Let Me X X
Get Yourself Together X X X - X
Title No. 5 (Pilot) X X - X X
Gold Painted Fingernails - X X X X
Bathroom Toilet X - X X X

IBC
Diddley Daddy
Bright Lights, Big City
xxxxx I Want To Be Loved
xxxx Road Runner
Honey What's Wrong


Interesting: Stu also participated in the decision of which songs to include. I'm not sure if I put the Xs in the right place (very difficult using the images of the video).


Sorry, I try a few times to edit the post so the X in the most interesting list "Choices" appear in the same place as in the video, but I can't so... you have to see the video !



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-19 01:41 by Ricky.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: stevecardi ()
Date: July 19, 2023 05:04

Quote
Big Al
Those live renditions of Little Red Rooster and Down The Road Apiece are what interest me the most. I'm guessing they are professionally recorded. It makes me wonder how many Brian-era shows were taped. Of course, a few of those studio tracks have yet to be heard too: The track titled 'Aftermath' sounds intriguing.

Agreed. My guess is these were recordings from the shows that produced the Got Live EP which is one one my favorites and am dying to hear the rest of the material that was recorded.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: July 19, 2023 13:12

Quote
Ricky
More info about The Black Box in this video (around minute 2:22):

[youtu.be]

many lists there... I try to copy all:



Master copies from ????
1. PERSONAL RADIO INTROS FOR BIG HITS ALBUM, CHRISTMAS
2. MORE CHRISTMAS JINGLES
3. HONKY TONK WOMAN

1. OUT OF TIME
2. DON'T LIE TO ME
3. ??? HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR MOTHER ???

1 LITTLE RED ROOSTER
2 DOWN THE ROAD APIECE
3 CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME
4 I'D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE BOYS
5 EACH AND EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR

Black Box 1974
1 BRIGHT LIGHTS, BIG CITY March 63
2 COPS AND ROBBERS 19.3.64
3 LITTLE RED ROOSTER 13.9.64
4 DOWN THE ROAD APIECE 15.9.64
5 I'D MUCH RATHER BE WITH THE Autumn 64
6 TELL ME BABY May 65
7 MEET ME IN THE BOTTOM May 65


Choices Bill STU Mick Keith Charlie
Reelin & Rockin' - - X X
Cops & Robbers X X X X X
I'd Much Rather Be With TB - X X X
Little Red Rooster (LIVE) X X X X X
Down The Road Apiece (LIVE) X X X X X
Heart Of Stone - - /
It's Been Quiet Here At Home - - /
Fanny Mae - X X
Try A Little Harder
High Heeled Sneakers
Tell Me Baby X X - X
Meet Me In The Bottom X X - X X
Lookin' Tired X X - - X
Don't Lie To Me / Let's Talk It Over
Wastin' Time - - X X
If You Let Me X X
Get Yourself Together X X X - X
Title No. 5 (Pilot) X X - X X
Gold Painted Fingernails - X X X X
Bathroom Toilet X - X X X

IBC
Diddley Daddy
Bright Lights, Big City
xxxxx I Want To Be Loved
xxxx Road Runner
Honey What's Wrong


Interesting: Stu also participated in the decision of which songs to include. I'm not sure if I put the Xs in the right place (very difficult using the images of the video).


Sorry, I try a few times to edit the post so the X in the most interesting list "Choices" appear in the same place as in the video, but I can't so... you have to see the video !

[juliensauctions.com]

Seems to have been withdrawn from the sale.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-19 13:14 by mitch.

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: austrianstones ()
Date: July 19, 2023 13:51

so far, GODZI and PANAMA POWDER ROOM (instrumental), `ve never seen the light, right ?

Re: The Black Box
Posted by: Ricky ()
Date: July 20, 2023 01:30

Quote
mitch
Quote
Ricky
More info about The Black Box in this video (around minute 2:22):

[youtu.be]


[juliensauctions.com]

Seems to have been withdrawn from the sale.

Thanks for the pdf !!!!. If we could see the pages of the photo well...



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