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Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: July 31, 2012 19:31

Chuck can chuck the electric keyboard for starters. He should also lay off the middle area of the keyboard and forget so much "rhythm playing" to help beef up the guitar work. Stu and Ian were all doing other things to accentuate and add flavor to the music--they weren't backing other members of the band. There's no push and pull with Chuck and the guitar players...they're all moving in the same direction. The Stones were all about each indivudal member pulling the other the complete opposite way and the results being that clash of friction.

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: July 31, 2012 19:48

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Congratulations !

You are the new keyboardist / musical director for the Stones' final tour !

I expect to hear plenty of B-sides on the next go-around !


Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: July 31, 2012 21:07

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One problem for Leavall is the shadows of predecessors-Stu, Nicky, Billy P. and even Mac loom so large and the fact each were so distinctive sounding, really puts Leavell at a disadvantage. He is not distinctive sounding but instead, as Greg Allman says in regards to Leavell's playing, "tasteful and tasty." That's all well and good but in my opinion, that's not enough if you're going to be keyboardist of the Stones. The fact that he's been the "Vegas Years" keyboardist doesn't help either.

That's pretty much what I was going to say. And Daryll lacks that distinctiveness. Bill and Brian and Mick T had it in spades. You can be a totally competent, music reading musician, but be unmemorable. There was a point made about all the incredible talents who played in Paul Whiteman's band in the 20s and 30s who would be totally forgotten except that they played alongside the singular genius Bix Beiderbecke.

And concerning the 'Conway West' comment. Isn't it funny how cute they think they are running in, dropping a racist bomb and then cowering and not answering when people call them out?

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: July 31, 2012 21:54

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I've never understood why some people slam Leavell so hard.

Because his sound and approach to piano playing do not fit the Stones.

And he has a neatly trimmed beard. There's nothing less R&R than a neatly trimmed beard.

And his clothing fashion is dreadful. Brightly coloured shirts, tucked into his pants.

Mathijs

Stupid, stupid post. Go look in a mirror. I bet we can a lot of fun with you.

Aside from the fact that I am not part of the Rolling Stones touring band, I sure dress better than Chuck. And I don't have a trimmed beard.

But most importantly: I don't play a plinky-di-plink cheap electric piano.

Mathijs

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: gimme_shelter ()
Date: July 31, 2012 22:15

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Aside from the fact that I am not part of the Rolling Stones touring band, I sure dress better than Chuck. And I don't have a trimmed beard.

But most importantly: I don't play a plinky-di-plink cheap electric piano.

Mathijs

But you do own a plantation, admit it!

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: July 31, 2012 22:41

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If anyone here has had the pleasure of seeing him rip off Jessica with the Allman Brothers back in the day you would see another side, it is in my top 10 live songs I have seen.

I also have a boot copy of the entire Stones show at the Toronto Sars concert. This boot is a sound board that sounds like it was not mixed or touched by Stones. It is mixed like any other band and you can clearly hear every lick, piano rip, horn, it is amazing to hear what the Stones realy soundlike before they cloudy it up. You can realy appreciate the R&R and classic bits Chuck puts in. On the down side you can actualy hear every sound Keiths fingers make as his fingers randomly hit and miss notes, it is truly a great example of how they clean up and over dub before the public release of the three songs they bothered to do for the official video.

But it's been 10 years since then...I'm sure Keith has had time to practice and get better.

Ha, ha, you are a "spaßvogel".

I'm a jokebird?!

Something gets lost in the translation I think!

I'd prefer to be known as a 'spaßtick'.

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: July 31, 2012 22:47

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nice guy!

And a great musician

Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: crumbling_mice ()
Date: August 1, 2012 00:03

A thoroughly nice chap by all accounts and no doubt a great keyboard player...if in the right band and the Stones are not the right band. He simply doesn't have the 'roll' as people have mentioned above, his style is just not the natural Stones style...Nicky Hopkins is and always will be the perfect fit. Leavell is too good technically for the Stones sound and has the ability to make the music too...nice, too american, too dull. The band loses their edgy feel when he plays. He's all over everything like a bad suit. Sorry Chuck but could you piss off and join some other nicey nice rock band and take your bad fashion with you. He looks like a californian coach driver at best!



'some things, well, I can't refuse'

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: August 1, 2012 00:24

I thought he did some amazing work with The Allman Brothers. He seems like a nice guy, genuine.

For every point against him that many of us (yes, me too sometimes), don't like about him, hey - as others have said - blame Mick. He's kept him there.

As for his middle-keys/rhythm playing - someone's got to do it, it ain't the guitars anymore.

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Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Date: August 1, 2012 00:35

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I thought he did some amazing work with The Allman Brothers. He seems like a nice guy, genuine.

For every point against him that many of us (yes, me too sometimes), don't like about him, hey - as others have said - blame Mick. He's kept him there.

As for his middle-keys/rhythm playing - someone's got to do it, it ain't the guitars anymore.

hey Chuck was only with the allmans for 'Brothers and Sisters' and their 'Win, Lose or Draw' records

but hey i mean chuck was great on the tune "jessica'

his solo starts at around 2:29





for sure one of the best ever all time rock piano solos



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Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 1, 2012 01:10

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He doesn't have any roll... unlike Ben Waters.

"roll" needs to be permanently eliminated from the lexicon along with "weave" and the others. it means nada....

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 1, 2012 01:11

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Chuck can chuck the electric keyboard for starters. He should also lay off the middle area of the keyboard and forget so much "rhythm playing" to help beef up the guitar work. Stu and Ian were all doing other things to accentuate and add flavor to the music--they weren't backing other members of the band. There's no push and pull with Chuck and the guitar players...they're all moving in the same direction. The Stones were all about each indivudal member pulling the other the complete opposite way and the results being that clash of friction.

sounds nice, justin, but that's alot of malarkey....or something like that.

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 1, 2012 01:12

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nice guy!

And a great musician

i like you. doing anything saturday night?

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: August 1, 2012 01:31

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He doesn't have any roll... unlike Ben Waters.

"roll" needs to be permanently eliminated from the lexicon along with "weave" and the others. it means nada....

I once rolled a guy to get money to buy a new weave, is that usage still acceptable?

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: beepee ()
Date: August 1, 2012 02:08

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He doesn't have any roll... unlike Ben Waters.

"roll" needs to be permanently eliminated from the lexicon along with "weave" and the others. it means nada....

It does.

When it comes up in the first tunes/lyrics it is associated to the rythm and some sort of movement/swing emanating from a strong beat - Ben Waters being a boogie player, he has that.

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: August 1, 2012 03:17

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I've never understood why some people slam Leavell so hard.

He may not have the "look" of a Stone, but he does his job well.

LOL... Good one..... winking smiley

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: August 1, 2012 03:27

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WTF,Mick Jagger thinks that he is the perfect fit for The Stones,and has kept him on board for 20+ years,so whether some here like him or not he is part of The Rolling Stones,and if they play again he will be there....drinking smiley

Yeahhhhh. Well, some people actually think Streets Of Love is a good song. So there you go. Chuck is the Vegas Stones piano player. You are right, he is a perfect fit for the Vegas Stones.

With Darryl Jones, Blondie and Good ole Chuck on board, what Mick and Keith are doing is paving the way for the Menudo version of the Stones, that will go on forever - without any of the members that mattered. Beatles Family Mania....

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: August 1, 2012 03:29

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If anyone here has had the pleasure of seeing him rip off Jessica with the Allman Brothers back in the day you would see another side, it is in my top 10 live songs I have seen.

I also have a boot copy of the entire Stones show at the Toronto Sars concert. This boot is a sound board that sounds like it was not mixed or touched by Stones. It is mixed like any other band and you can clearly hear every lick, piano rip, horn, it is amazing to hear what the Stones realy soundlike before they cloudy it up. You can realy appreciate the R&R and classic bits Chuck puts in. On the down side you can actualy hear every sound Keiths fingers make as his fingers randomly hit and miss notes, it is truly a great example of how they clean up and over dub before the public release of the three songs they bothered to do for the official video.

But it's been 10 years since then...I'm sure Keith has had time to practice and get better.

That's right. Not only that I read where Keith says they are pushing "this baby" into unchartered territory. They are seeing if this rock and roll thing can grow up. No doubt the best is yet to come!

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: August 1, 2012 03:44

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He doesn't have any roll... unlike Ben Waters.

"roll" needs to be permanently eliminated from the lexicon along with "weave" and the others. it means nada....

It does.

When it comes up in the first tunes/lyrics it is associated to the rythm and some sort of movement/swing emanating from a strong beat - Ben Waters being a boogie player, he has that.

the more you try to explain it, the less it means....

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: August 1, 2012 03:52

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He doesn't have any roll... unlike Ben Waters.

"roll" needs to be permanently eliminated from the lexicon along with "weave" and the others. it means nada....

It does.

When it comes up in the first tunes/lyrics it is associated to the rythm and some sort of movement/swing emanating from a strong beat - Ben Waters being a boogie player, he has that.

the more you try to explain it, the less it means....

Didn't Wyman state that he was following Charlie, but Charlie was following Keith, so you had a "wobble" to begin with, before you get into anything else?

I don't know, but with with Keith not all there any more, Wyman entirely absent, no Stu, Billy or Nicky..... it sure does feel/sound watered down.



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Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: August 1, 2012 03:57

Since Steel Wheels the stage is just too damn cluttered. They need to pare to the Stones bone. Chuck might sound better if he was just playing a piano, period. Bring out Bobby for Brown Sugar and maybe a couple others. And if they can't cut it that way anymore, or don't want to just play some blues, so be it.

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: August 1, 2012 04:16

"Fingers of Gold?"

No wonder so many view him as a villain...




Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: August 1, 2012 04:27

chuck is probably the 5th best keyboard/ piano player the stones have ever had

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: jjsteve ()
Date: August 1, 2012 04:32

worst thing for the stones besides bill no playing bass anymore, is chuck on piano. he's a good player sure, but not good for the stones music. get Mac back

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: Slick ()
Date: August 1, 2012 04:34

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lmao!

pinkies of plink

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 1, 2012 04:42

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If anyone here has had the pleasure of seeing him rip off Jessica with the Allman Brothers back in the day you would see another side, it is in my top 10 live songs I have seen.

I also have a boot copy of the entire Stones show at the Toronto Sars concert. This boot is a sound board that sounds like it was not mixed or touched by Stones. It is mixed like any other band and you can clearly hear every lick, piano rip, horn, it is amazing to hear what the Stones realy soundlike before they cloudy it up. You can realy appreciate the R&R and classic bits Chuck puts in. On the down side you can actualy hear every sound Keiths fingers make as his fingers randomly hit and miss notes, it is truly a great example of how they clean up and over dub before the public release of the three songs they bothered to do for the official video.

But it's been 10 years since then...I'm sure Keith has had time to practice and get better.

That's right. Not only that I read where Keith says they are pushing "this baby" into unchartered territory. They are seeing if this rock and roll thing can grow up. No doubt the best is yet to come!

Seems as though they are taking this into new territory...but way past growing up, raising a family, middle age, retirement, we're getting into ICU Rock and Roll, where recovery from quadruple bypass means an extra 15 years of life...or something.

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: August 1, 2012 05:12

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And he has a neatly trimmed beard. There's nothing less R&R than a neatly trimmed beard ... his clothing fashion is dreadful. Brightly coloured shirts, tucked into his pants.

Really?... What's that really have to do with anything?
Stu didn't look right either... did he?

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: August 1, 2012 07:43

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He doesn't have any roll... unlike Ben Waters.

"roll" needs to be permanently eliminated from the lexicon along with "weave" and the others. it means nada....

It does.

When it comes up in the first tunes/lyrics it is associated to the rythm and some sort of movement/swing emanating from a strong beat - Ben Waters being a boogie player, he has that.

the more you try to explain it, the less it means....

Didn't Wyman state that he was following Charlie, but Charlie was following Keith, so you had a "wobble" to begin with, before you get into anything else?

I don't know, but with with Keith not all there any more, Wyman entirely absent, no Stu, Billy or Nicky..... it sure does feel/sound watered down.

That's it! They lost their wobble.

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: August 1, 2012 07:51

For starters, "Chuck" that Holiday Inn Lounge electric keyboard in the dumpster, give him a real piano and Hammond organ, block off the midrange keys of the piano...then maybe.

Re: Chuck Leavell - "Fingers Of Gold" Says Keith
Date: August 1, 2012 08:31

I have no beef against Chuck, but I wish he'd back off some. However, I'd be fully for Ian MacLagan being the keys man on this next tour.

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