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Another partisan liberal that thinks there is one universal truth and they have a lock on it. You are all part of the problem not part of the solution.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-01 22:34 by FrankM.
hey you know i was watching Faux News not long ago and some republican goof was on there actually saying stuff like 'in canada, politicians and bureaucrats decide if you’ll get the operation and medical procedure you need..'' blah blah blah
i mean all you can do is laugh, its so preposterous and dishonest
meanwhile the talking heads on Faux News were all nodding their heads in agreement, as if they had a clue
have you heard these clamouring idiots, the so-called 'Conservatives for Patients' Rights?' these wackjobs are clearly insane. they push complete BS about canada's healthcare system on americans all the time, just like the gibberish i heard on Faux News. little do they know or care that the health care system in canada is not run by 'government' but is run by but by doctors who are able to treat everyone, rich or poor; but instead of telling the truth they just use cheap politcal scare tactics and propaganda to push their agenda
they say canadians fall all over each other rushing to the USA for healthcare we 'can't get' here, and that we cannot choose our doctors, and we get 'assigned' them by the government. this is laughable in its stupidity and dishonesty. ive lived in Canada my whole life. neither I, anyone in my family, any relative nor any neighbour or friend ive ever known has ever gone to the U.S. for health care. ever. really, why would we? there is no waiting to see a GP in canada; i can call my doc's office and make an appt and see him later the same day, if i want to. and all i need is my health card, not my visa card. the doc then checks my pulse, not my wallet
or, i can go to a walk-in clinic, anytime, and be seen immediately. and, I choose my doctor. ive had the same one for decades. if I am not happy with him/her, I can go get another. no 'bureaucrat' or politician or government civil servant tells me what doctor to pick, or 'assigns' me one, or tells me where to have a procedure done, or what hospital or clinic to go to
sure, there is generally a wait time to see specialists, but that has more to do with the number of specialists, not with the healthcare system, per se. the system isn't perfect by any means, but it sure beats the U.S. one, where they say about 50 million people have no health coverage at all, and millions more are denied coverage even if they do have it, for 'pre-existing conditions' (that eat into corporate profits, of course)
is Canada's system perfect? no, probably not. but do canadians know that getting seriously ill or injured will not bankrupt them and wipe out their life savings or cost them their house? hell, yes, and we know that whatever happens to us, and however much money you have, or don't have, you will be looked after. no one has any doubt about that
and that generally makes for a happy populace
Now now pinkie what ever happened to the liberal mantra of "tolerance". You don't seem to be very tolerant of other views pinkie. I expect better from you pinkie.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-01 23:09 by FrankM.
innarresting
ok, so i am, i guess, supposed to 'tolerate' republican BS, outright dishonesty and lies about the healthcare system in MY country, hey?? is that the game? no, i prefer to call it out for the pure unadulterated BS it is, and laugh at it for how stupid it is, while being in disbelief that anyone would be dumb enough to actually believe it, or try and defend it...but thanks all the same though!
i mean, believe what you want, and defend those that ram this crap and nonsense down your throat all you want, but in the end.. if you choose to unquestionaly believe abject bullsh*t, that's your problem, not mine ..
if these conservative and republican liars would only tell the truth about Canada's health care system, of which I and Canadians know about and are familiar with, they'd earn our tolerance. ..and respect. as it stands though, when they spew outright BS as part of a political agenda obviously designed to fill peoples heads with misinformation and corporations wallets with ca$h, whether people know enough to believe it or not, they earn nothing but scorn and ridicule ..and our laughter
hows that for tolerant enough for ya?
No it's rather intolerant and I'm quite disappointed in you pinkie.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-01 23:52 by FrankM.
maybe they have a deal...done.
Hardly an intellectual response to a vaild observation. My expectations are too high I think.
I think the support for Mitt 'outside' the US is a bit of a moot point. It's really whether or not he as support within the US that will be important.
That affrightens me....or something.
Maybe Mitt should have went on a world apology tour like obama did (and took all his relatives and friends with him on vacation) on your tax dollar (security). Then that would be fine.
"Even far right-wingers overhere supports Obama" that is too funny, I'll have whatever you're smoking.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-02 01:21 by shadooby.
Members of the Stones and their many associates through the years have been gun enthusiasts, that's either news to you or you're attempting to pull a fast one on those who aren't aware of that fact...nice try.
BTW, Switzerland has one of the largest ratios of gun owning citizens...case closed.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-02 01:16 by shadooby.
Yes, Treacles. But there is a world outside the US too. And the world outside the US don't want another Iraqi war. Or any war at all. We have enough with bad leadership from poltroons such as Putin in Russia and mad theocratic dictatorships in the Middle East. And we ceertainly don't want another cold war.
That's one reason why this thread belongs in Ted Nugent's trophy room.
We're in agreement...my only point is you can be as happy with Obama as you want, or unhappy with Romney as you want. The ONLY thing that is going to matter is what happens in November. And the ONLY thing that will determine that, is what the job numbers are in the US, and what the stock market is doing, in September and October.
Obama needs unemployment below 8%.
That includes the lazy bastids that have given up all hope. They were probably going to vote republican anyway.
this is quite hilarious, some american i presume right wing anti-intellectual lightweight Frank M telling me basically that he knows more about the canadian health care system, of which i have partaken in for over 50 years.. this is the thing with these right wing knobheads, they rarely if ever show any rational or pragmatical justification to what they bleat about
basically every word is condenmable as another of piece of petty politics; its the nature of the beast with these guys, their game is to always fall back onto some low level calibre of distraction or deflection
and then they still think they fool anybody.. lol
small ball savvy from Frank M. he knows absolutely nothing about the canadian health care system, he established that, and has unwittingly helped prove my point all along, lol, that's the main event
and then he says; 'Obama in power for four more years is way too many risks my friend. He's already done too much damage.'
hilarious ... too much damage? what damage? bush had already decimated the US economy before obama even got elected. billions blown on tax cuts where even they were targeted and piecemeal, tossing bones to favored interests; billions blown on the fraudulent war in iraq, billions more lost on hurricane katrina, a total disaster of bureaucratic mismanagement, because boy wonder sat on his hands and did nothing, billions lost on the economic crash started because bush never responded to the subprime mortgage crisis or regulated the banking and insurance industries, precipitating a monumental collapese which carried over the the entire planet, ruining global economies..
i mean its impossible almost to calculate the depth of damage that moron caused
bush, not obama, deliberately lied to the American people, deliberately lied to the United Nations and shamelssely manipulated intelligence data to justify sending america into a war with iraq which resulted in the deaths of thousands of American soldiers, of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children, leaving untold numbers of widows, widowers and orphans, broken homes, and an enormous number of Americans and Iraqi men, women and children maimed and / or traumatized by war, probably forever..
this surely not only justifies Bush's ranking as one of the worst presidents in US history (let alone as THE WORST ) but also as a war criminal..
i mean attacking obama's 'damage' in the face of all of that is completely laughable yet entirely predicatable from right wing loons ..its hilarious..but the usual standard epected tripe..from a guy that calls 'left wingers' "nutcases" and lunatics but then lectures about 'tolerance'.. hahaha hilarious stuff, keep it coming Einstein
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-02 18:04 by pinkfloydthebarber.
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Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
mickschix
()
Date: August 1, 2012 22:14
HURRAY FOR YOU, PINKFLOYD! At last someone speaks the truth, not only about Michael Moore but about the lies put forth by the Republican Party here in the USA: they are SHAMELESS! Half the time, they don't even bother to make up believeable lies, they just spew garbage in the hopes that SOME stupidos actually accept the crap as fact! GOOD JOB!
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
FrankM
()
Date: August 1, 2012 22:25
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mickschix
HURRAY FOR YOU, PINKFLOYD! At last someone speaks the truth, not only about Michael Moore but about the lies put forth by the Republican Party here in the USA: they are SHAMELESS! Half the time, they don't even bother to make up believeable lies, they just spew garbage in the hopes that SOME stupidos actually accept the crap as fact! GOOD JOB!
Another partisan liberal that thinks there is one universal truth and they have a lock on it. You are all part of the problem not part of the solution.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-01 22:34 by FrankM.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
pinkfloydthebarber
()
Date: August 1, 2012 22:55
Quote
mickschix
HURRAY FOR YOU, PINKFLOYD! At last someone speaks the truth, not only about Michael Moore but about the lies put forth by the Republican Party here in the USA: they are SHAMELESS! Half the time, they don't even bother to make up believeable lies, they just spew garbage in the hopes that SOME stupidos actually accept the crap as fact! GOOD JOB!
hey you know i was watching Faux News not long ago and some republican goof was on there actually saying stuff like 'in canada, politicians and bureaucrats decide if you’ll get the operation and medical procedure you need..'' blah blah blah
i mean all you can do is laugh, its so preposterous and dishonest
meanwhile the talking heads on Faux News were all nodding their heads in agreement, as if they had a clue
have you heard these clamouring idiots, the so-called 'Conservatives for Patients' Rights?' these wackjobs are clearly insane. they push complete BS about canada's healthcare system on americans all the time, just like the gibberish i heard on Faux News. little do they know or care that the health care system in canada is not run by 'government' but is run by but by doctors who are able to treat everyone, rich or poor; but instead of telling the truth they just use cheap politcal scare tactics and propaganda to push their agenda
they say canadians fall all over each other rushing to the USA for healthcare we 'can't get' here, and that we cannot choose our doctors, and we get 'assigned' them by the government. this is laughable in its stupidity and dishonesty. ive lived in Canada my whole life. neither I, anyone in my family, any relative nor any neighbour or friend ive ever known has ever gone to the U.S. for health care. ever. really, why would we? there is no waiting to see a GP in canada; i can call my doc's office and make an appt and see him later the same day, if i want to. and all i need is my health card, not my visa card. the doc then checks my pulse, not my wallet
or, i can go to a walk-in clinic, anytime, and be seen immediately. and, I choose my doctor. ive had the same one for decades. if I am not happy with him/her, I can go get another. no 'bureaucrat' or politician or government civil servant tells me what doctor to pick, or 'assigns' me one, or tells me where to have a procedure done, or what hospital or clinic to go to
sure, there is generally a wait time to see specialists, but that has more to do with the number of specialists, not with the healthcare system, per se. the system isn't perfect by any means, but it sure beats the U.S. one, where they say about 50 million people have no health coverage at all, and millions more are denied coverage even if they do have it, for 'pre-existing conditions' (that eat into corporate profits, of course)
is Canada's system perfect? no, probably not. but do canadians know that getting seriously ill or injured will not bankrupt them and wipe out their life savings or cost them their house? hell, yes, and we know that whatever happens to us, and however much money you have, or don't have, you will be looked after. no one has any doubt about that
and that generally makes for a happy populace
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
FrankM
()
Date: August 1, 2012 23:00
Quote
pinkfloydthebarber
Quote
mickschix
HURRAY FOR YOU, PINKFLOYD! At last someone speaks the truth, not only about Michael Moore but about the lies put forth by the Republican Party here in the USA: they are SHAMELESS! Half the time, they don't even bother to make up believeable lies, they just spew garbage in the hopes that SOME stupidos actually accept the crap as fact! GOOD JOB!
hey you know i was watching Faux News not long ago and some republican goof was on there actually saying stuff like 'in canada, politicians and bureaucrats decide if you’ll get the operation and medical procedure you need..'' blah blah blah
i mean all you can do is laugh, its so preposterous and dishonest
meanwhile the talking heads on Faux News were all nodding their heads in agreement, as if they had a clue
have you heard these clamouring idiots, the so-called 'Conservatives for Patients' Rights?' these wackjobs are clearly insane. they push complete BS about canada's healthcare system on americans all the time, just like the gibberish i heard on Faux News. little do they know or care that the health care system in canada is not run by 'government' but is run by but by doctors who are able to treat everyone, rich or poor; but instead of telling the truth they just use cheap politcal scare tactics and propaganda to push their agenda
they say canadians fall all over each other rushing to the USA for healthcare we 'can't get' here, and that we cannot choose our doctors, and we get 'assigned' them by the government. this is laughable in its stupidity and dishonesty. ive lived in Canada my whole life. neither I, anyone in my family, any relative nor any neighbour or friend ive ever known has ever gone to the U.S. for health care. ever. really, why would we? there is no waiting to see a GP in canada; i can call my doc's office and make an appt and see him later the same day, if i want to. and all i need is my health card, not my visa card. the doc then checks my pulse, not my wallet
or, i can go to a walk-in clinic, anytime, and be seen immediately. and, I choose my doctor. ive had the same one for decades. if I am not happy with him/her, I can go get another. no 'bureaucrat' or politician or government civil servant tells me what doctor to pick, or 'assigns' me one, or tells me where to have a procedure done, or what hospital or clinic to go to
sure, there is generally a wait time to see specialists, but that has more to do with the number of specialists, not with the healthcare system, per se. the system isn't perfect by any means, but it sure beats the U.S. one, where they say about 50 million people have no health coverage at all, and millions more are denied coverage even if they do have it, for 'pre-existing conditions' (that eat into corporate profits, of course)
is Canada's system perfect? no, probably not. but do canadians know that getting seriously ill or injured will not bankrupt them and wipe out their life savings or cost them their house? hell, yes, and we know that whatever happens to us, and however much money you have, or don't have, you will be looked after. no one has any doubt about that
and that generally makes for a happy populace
Now now pinkie what ever happened to the liberal mantra of "tolerance". You don't seem to be very tolerant of other views pinkie. I expect better from you pinkie.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-01 23:09 by FrankM.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
lem motlow
()
Date: August 1, 2012 23:10
its funny watching this because as soon as you see the words "ted nugent" you know you're gonna get a bunch of people saying"he's an idiot,a moron,a total nitwit "
and then the entire thread will be filled with some of the most thought provoking information and ideas...ted is a bit of a dumbass but its strange how he brings all of that stuff out in the open.
and then the entire thread will be filled with some of the most thought provoking information and ideas...ted is a bit of a dumbass but its strange how he brings all of that stuff out in the open.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
pinkfloydthebarber
()
Date: August 1, 2012 23:46
Quote
FrankM
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pinkfloydthebarber
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mickschix
HURRAY FOR YOU, PINKFLOYD! At last someone speaks the truth, not only about Michael Moore but about the lies put forth by the Republican Party here in the USA: they are SHAMELESS! Half the time, they don't even bother to make up believeable lies, they just spew garbage in the hopes that SOME stupidos actually accept the crap as fact! GOOD JOB!
hey you know i was watching Faux News not long ago and some republican goof was on there actually saying stuff like 'in canada, politicians and bureaucrats decide if you’ll get the operation and medical procedure you need..'' blah blah blah
i mean all you can do is laugh, its so preposterous and dishonest
meanwhile the talking heads on Faux News were all nodding their heads in agreement, as if they had a clue
have you heard these clamouring idiots, the so-called 'Conservatives for Patients' Rights?' these wackjobs are clearly insane. they push complete BS about canada's healthcare system on americans all the time, just like the gibberish i heard on Faux News. little do they know or care that the health care system in canada is not run by 'government' but is run by but by doctors who are able to treat everyone, rich or poor; but instead of telling the truth they just use cheap politcal scare tactics and propaganda to push their agenda
they say canadians fall all over each other rushing to the USA for healthcare we 'can't get' here, and that we cannot choose our doctors, and we get 'assigned' them by the government. this is laughable in its stupidity and dishonesty. ive lived in Canada my whole life. neither I, anyone in my family, any relative nor any neighbour or friend ive ever known has ever gone to the U.S. for health care. ever. really, why would we? there is no waiting to see a GP in canada; i can call my doc's office and make an appt and see him later the same day, if i want to. and all i need is my health card, not my visa card. the doc then checks my pulse, not my wallet
or, i can go to a walk-in clinic, anytime, and be seen immediately. and, I choose my doctor. ive had the same one for decades. if I am not happy with him/her, I can go get another. no 'bureaucrat' or politician or government civil servant tells me what doctor to pick, or 'assigns' me one, or tells me where to have a procedure done, or what hospital or clinic to go to
sure, there is generally a wait time to see specialists, but that has more to do with the number of specialists, not with the healthcare system, per se. the system isn't perfect by any means, but it sure beats the U.S. one, where they say about 50 million people have no health coverage at all, and millions more are denied coverage even if they do have it, for 'pre-existing conditions' (that eat into corporate profits, of course)
is Canada's system perfect? no, probably not. but do canadians know that getting seriously ill or injured will not bankrupt them and wipe out their life savings or cost them their house? hell, yes, and we know that whatever happens to us, and however much money you have, or don't have, you will be looked after. no one has any doubt about that
and that generally makes for a happy populace
Now now pinkie what ever happened to the liberal mantra of "tolerance". You don't seem to be very tolerant of other views pinkie. I expect better from you pinkie.
innarresting
ok, so i am, i guess, supposed to 'tolerate' republican BS, outright dishonesty and lies about the healthcare system in MY country, hey?? is that the game? no, i prefer to call it out for the pure unadulterated BS it is, and laugh at it for how stupid it is, while being in disbelief that anyone would be dumb enough to actually believe it, or try and defend it...but thanks all the same though!
i mean, believe what you want, and defend those that ram this crap and nonsense down your throat all you want, but in the end.. if you choose to unquestionaly believe abject bullsh*t, that's your problem, not mine ..
if these conservative and republican liars would only tell the truth about Canada's health care system, of which I and Canadians know about and are familiar with, they'd earn our tolerance. ..and respect. as it stands though, when they spew outright BS as part of a political agenda obviously designed to fill peoples heads with misinformation and corporations wallets with ca$h, whether people know enough to believe it or not, they earn nothing but scorn and ridicule ..and our laughter
hows that for tolerant enough for ya?
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
FrankM
()
Date: August 1, 2012 23:51
Quote
pinkfloydthebarber
Quote
FrankM
Quote
pinkfloydthebarber
Quote
mickschix
HURRAY FOR YOU, PINKFLOYD! At last someone speaks the truth, not only about Michael Moore but about the lies put forth by the Republican Party here in the USA: they are SHAMELESS! Half the time, they don't even bother to make up believeable lies, they just spew garbage in the hopes that SOME stupidos actually accept the crap as fact! GOOD JOB!
hey you know i was watching Faux News not long ago and some republican goof was on there actually saying stuff like 'in canada, politicians and bureaucrats decide if you’ll get the operation and medical procedure you need..'' blah blah blah
i mean all you can do is laugh, its so preposterous and dishonest
meanwhile the talking heads on Faux News were all nodding their heads in agreement, as if they had a clue
have you heard these clamouring idiots, the so-called 'Conservatives for Patients' Rights?' these wackjobs are clearly insane. they push complete BS about canada's healthcare system on americans all the time, just like the gibberish i heard on Faux News. little do they know or care that the health care system in canada is not run by 'government' but is run by but by doctors who are able to treat everyone, rich or poor; but instead of telling the truth they just use cheap politcal scare tactics and propaganda to push their agenda
they say canadians fall all over each other rushing to the USA for healthcare we 'can't get' here, and that we cannot choose our doctors, and we get 'assigned' them by the government. this is laughable in its stupidity and dishonesty. ive lived in Canada my whole life. neither I, anyone in my family, any relative nor any neighbour or friend ive ever known has ever gone to the U.S. for health care. ever. really, why would we? there is no waiting to see a GP in canada; i can call my doc's office and make an appt and see him later the same day, if i want to. and all i need is my health card, not my visa card. the doc then checks my pulse, not my wallet
or, i can go to a walk-in clinic, anytime, and be seen immediately. and, I choose my doctor. ive had the same one for decades. if I am not happy with him/her, I can go get another. no 'bureaucrat' or politician or government civil servant tells me what doctor to pick, or 'assigns' me one, or tells me where to have a procedure done, or what hospital or clinic to go to
sure, there is generally a wait time to see specialists, but that has more to do with the number of specialists, not with the healthcare system, per se. the system isn't perfect by any means, but it sure beats the U.S. one, where they say about 50 million people have no health coverage at all, and millions more are denied coverage even if they do have it, for 'pre-existing conditions' (that eat into corporate profits, of course)
is Canada's system perfect? no, probably not. but do canadians know that getting seriously ill or injured will not bankrupt them and wipe out their life savings or cost them their house? hell, yes, and we know that whatever happens to us, and however much money you have, or don't have, you will be looked after. no one has any doubt about that
and that generally makes for a happy populace
Now now pinkie what ever happened to the liberal mantra of "tolerance". You don't seem to be very tolerant of other views pinkie. I expect better from you pinkie.
innarresting
ok, so i am, i guess, supposed to 'tolerate' republican BS, outright dishonesty and lies about the healthcare system in MY country, hey?? is that the game? no, i prefer to call it out for the pure unadulterated BS it is, and laugh at it for how stupid it is, while being in disbelief that anyone would be dumb enough to actually believe it, or try and defend it...but thanks all the same though!
i mean, believe what you want, and defend those that ram this crap and nonsense down your throat all you want, but in the end.. if you choose to unquestionaly believe abject bullsh*t, that's your problem, not mine ..
if these conservative and republican liars would only tell the truth about Canada's health care system, of which I and Canadians know about and are familiar with, they'd earn our tolerance. ..and respect. as it stands though, when they spew outright BS as part of a political agenda obviously designed to fill peoples heads with misinformation and corporations wallets with ca$h, whether people know enough to believe it or not, they earn nothing but scorn and ridicule ..and our laughter
hows that for tolerant enough for ya?
No it's rather intolerant and I'm quite disappointed in you pinkie.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-01 23:52 by FrankM.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: August 1, 2012 23:55
Methinks pinkie needs to go to her local pharmacist for some drugs. Oh, hold it, she is already hallucinating. (Along with Mixchick)
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
()
Date: August 1, 2012 23:57
Quote
mickscarey
Methinks pinkie needs to go to her local pharmacist for some drugs. Oh, hold it, she is already hallucinating. (Along with Mixchick)
maybe they have a deal...done.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: August 1, 2012 23:59
ha ha. Nobama care health scandal fisasco thingy is SO good all congressmen, senator , etc are exempt. That is funny.
Like Ms Botox has said, "Gotta pass it and then read it to find out what's in it" - Now THAT's shameful.
Like Ms Botox has said, "Gotta pass it and then read it to find out what's in it" - Now THAT's shameful.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
Stones62
()
Date: August 2, 2012 00:00
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FrankM
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pinkfloydthebarber
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FrankM
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pinkfloydthebarber
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mickschix
HURRAY FOR YOU, PINKFLOYD! At last someone speaks the truth, not only about Michael Moore but about the lies put forth by the Republican Party here in the USA: they are SHAMELESS! Half the time, they don't even bother to make up believeable lies, they just spew garbage in the hopes that SOME stupidos actually accept the crap as fact! GOOD JOB!
hey you know i was watching Faux News not long ago and some republican goof was on there actually saying stuff like 'in canada, politicians and bureaucrats decide if you’ll get the operation and medical procedure you need..'' blah blah blah
i mean all you can do is laugh, its so preposterous and dishonest
meanwhile the talking heads on Faux News were all nodding their heads in agreement, as if they had a clue
have you heard these clamouring idiots, the so-called 'Conservatives for Patients' Rights?' these wackjobs are clearly insane. they push complete BS about canada's healthcare system on americans all the time, just like the gibberish i heard on Faux News. little do they know or care that the health care system in canada is not run by 'government' but is run by but by doctors who are able to treat everyone, rich or poor; but instead of telling the truth they just use cheap politcal scare tactics and propaganda to push their agenda
they say canadians fall all over each other rushing to the USA for healthcare we 'can't get' here, and that we cannot choose our doctors, and we get 'assigned' them by the government. this is laughable in its stupidity and dishonesty. ive lived in Canada my whole life. neither I, anyone in my family, any relative nor any neighbour or friend ive ever known has ever gone to the U.S. for health care. ever. really, why would we? there is no waiting to see a GP in canada; i can call my doc's office and make an appt and see him later the same day, if i want to. and all i need is my health card, not my visa card. the doc then checks my pulse, not my wallet
or, i can go to a walk-in clinic, anytime, and be seen immediately. and, I choose my doctor. ive had the same one for decades. if I am not happy with him/her, I can go get another. no 'bureaucrat' or politician or government civil servant tells me what doctor to pick, or 'assigns' me one, or tells me where to have a procedure done, or what hospital or clinic to go to
sure, there is generally a wait time to see specialists, but that has more to do with the number of specialists, not with the healthcare system, per se. the system isn't perfect by any means, but it sure beats the U.S. one, where they say about 50 million people have no health coverage at all, and millions more are denied coverage even if they do have it, for 'pre-existing conditions' (that eat into corporate profits, of course)
is Canada's system perfect? no, probably not. but do canadians know that getting seriously ill or injured will not bankrupt them and wipe out their life savings or cost them their house? hell, yes, and we know that whatever happens to us, and however much money you have, or don't have, you will be looked after. no one has any doubt about that
and that generally makes for a happy populace
Now now pinkie what ever happened to the liberal mantra of "tolerance". You don't seem to be very tolerant of other views pinkie. I expect better from you pinkie.
innarresting
ok, so i am, i guess, supposed to 'tolerate' republican BS, outright dishonesty and lies about the healthcare system in MY country, hey?? is that the game? no, i prefer to call it out for the pure unadulterated BS it is, and laugh at it for how stupid it is, while being in disbelief that anyone would be dumb enough to actually believe it, or try and defend it...but thanks all the same though!
i mean, believe what you want, and defend those that ram this crap and nonsense down your throat all you want, but in the end.. if you choose to unquestionaly believe abject bullsh*t, that's your problem, not mine ..
if these conservative and republican liars would only tell the truth about Canada's health care system, of which I and Canadians know about and are familiar with, they'd earn our tolerance. ..and respect. as it stands though, when they spew outright BS as part of a political agenda obviously designed to fill peoples heads with misinformation and corporations wallets with ca$h, whether people know enough to believe it or not, they earn nothing but scorn and ridicule ..and our laughter
hows that for tolerant enough for ya?
No it's rather intolerant and I'm quite disappointed in you pinkie.
Hardly an intellectual response to a vaild observation. My expectations are too high I think.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: August 2, 2012 00:04
..while on the subject of SHAMEFUl, it is liberal celebritys like idiot Russell Brand who says - and gets away with -- "People want to F*** Sarah Palin"
Or Joy Behar, who "would like to burn Romney's house down"
And get's away with it.
Imgaine a conservative actor saying "I would like to burn the WHote house down while no-bama was in it" . Bunch of phonies you all.
Or Joy Behar, who "would like to burn Romney's house down"
And get's away with it.
Imgaine a conservative actor saying "I would like to burn the WHote house down while no-bama was in it" . Bunch of phonies you all.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: August 2, 2012 00:19
Don't worry. The support for Mitt Romney is little but none outside the United States. The tracks of Bush JR affrightens. And Mitt's journey to Europe was a shambles. He did nothing right. Even far right-wingers overhere supports Obama - although he hasn't made much of an impression. The alternative is unthinkable from a geopolitic standpoint. Too many risks involved.
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-02 00:27 by Stoneage.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
FrankM
()
Date: August 2, 2012 00:21
Obama in power for four more years is way too many risks my friend. He's already done too much damage.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 2, 2012 00:40
Quote
Stoneage
Don't worry. The support for Mitt Romney is little but none outside the United States. The tracks of Bush JR affrightens. And Mitt's journey to Europe was a shambles. He did nothing right. Even far right-wingers overhere supports Obama - although he hasn't made much of an impression. The alternative is unthinkable from a geopolitic standpoint. Too many risks involved.
I think the support for Mitt 'outside' the US is a bit of a moot point. It's really whether or not he as support within the US that will be important.
That affrightens me....or something.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
shadooby
()
Date: August 2, 2012 00:58
Only in the good old USA can a president come out in support of gay marriage (only for votes) and is applauded by the lame stream media, but if a little old chicken chain comes out against it they're bashed by the same liberal media. Tolerant liberals? More like "libocrites".
Oh, by the way, don't eat this, don't drink that (mayor bloomberg)...but it's ok to stick you know what you know where.
Oh, by the way, don't eat this, don't drink that (mayor bloomberg)...but it's ok to stick you know what you know where.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
shadooby
()
Date: August 2, 2012 01:05
Quote
Stoneage
Don't worry. The support for Mitt Romney is little but none outside the United States. The tracks of Bush JR affrightens. And Mitt's journey to Europe was a shambles. He did nothing right. Even far right-wingers overhere supports Obama - although he hasn't made much of an impression. The alternative is unthinkable from a geopolitic standpoint. Too many risks involved.
Maybe Mitt should have went on a world apology tour like obama did (and took all his relatives and friends with him on vacation) on your tax dollar (security). Then that would be fine.
"Even far right-wingers overhere supports Obama" that is too funny, I'll have whatever you're smoking.
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Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
shadooby
()
Date: August 2, 2012 01:12
Quote
flilflam
[entertainment.nbcnews.com]
Take a little time and read this article about Ted's take on how to stop group massacres, such as the one that took place in Colorado. His answer to violence : give everyone a gun and let everyone shoot it out, and let God sort it out later.
This nut case could carry a gun on stage and start shooting at anything that sounded explosive, even a speaker that blew up. Keep this moron at least ten miles from me and my family.
He also appears ignorant (he can't spell cat).
Members of the Stones and their many associates through the years have been gun enthusiasts, that's either news to you or you're attempting to pull a fast one on those who aren't aware of that fact...nice try.
BTW, Switzerland has one of the largest ratios of gun owning citizens...case closed.
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Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
shadooby
()
Date: August 2, 2012 01:22
I'm outta here, sorry if I offended anyone, this stuff just gets me going.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: August 2, 2012 01:45
Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
Stoneage
Don't worry. The support for Mitt Romney is little but none outside the United States. The tracks of Bush JR affrightens. And Mitt's journey to Europe was a shambles. He did nothing right. Even far right-wingers overhere supports Obama - although he hasn't made much of an impression. The alternative is unthinkable from a geopolitic standpoint. Too many risks involved.
I think the support for Mitt 'outside' the US is a bit of a moot point. It's really whether or not he as support within the US that will be important.
That affrightens me....or something.
Yes, Treacles. But there is a world outside the US too. And the world outside the US don't want another Iraqi war. Or any war at all. We have enough with bad leadership from poltroons such as Putin in Russia and mad theocratic dictatorships in the Middle East. And we ceertainly don't want another cold war.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
Stones62
()
Date: August 2, 2012 02:08
Politics has nothing to do with that. She's hot no matter what side of the political spectrum she sits on.Quote
mickscarey
..while on the subject of SHAMEFUl, it is liberal celebritys like idiot Russell Brand who says - and gets away with -- "People want to F*** Sarah Palin"
There are extreme cases on boths sides of the poitical fence. Behar is one. Michael Savage another. As long as this us against them mentality exists, nothing will ever get done in this country, or anywhere for that matter.Quote
mickscarey
Or Joy Behar, who "would like to burn Romney's house down"
And get's away with it. Imgaine a conservative actor saying "I would like to burn the WHote house down while no-bama was in it" . Bunch of phonies you all.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
stonesnow
()
Date: August 2, 2012 02:44
Quote
lem motlow
its funny watching this because as soon as you see the words "ted nugent" you know you're gonna get a bunch of people saying"he's an idiot,a moron,a total nitwit "
and then the entire thread will be filled with some of the most thought provoking information and ideas...ted is a bit of a dumbass but its strange how he brings all of that stuff out in the open.
That's one reason why this thread belongs in Ted Nugent's trophy room.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 2, 2012 10:05
Quote
Stoneage
Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
Stoneage
Don't worry. The support for Mitt Romney is little but none outside the United States. The tracks of Bush JR affrightens. And Mitt's journey to Europe was a shambles. He did nothing right. Even far right-wingers overhere supports Obama - although he hasn't made much of an impression. The alternative is unthinkable from a geopolitic standpoint. Too many risks involved.
I think the support for Mitt 'outside' the US is a bit of a moot point. It's really whether or not he as support within the US that will be important.
That affrightens me....or something.
Yes, Treacles. But there is a world outside the US too. And the world outside the US don't want another Iraqi war. Or any war at all. We have enough with bad leadership from poltroons such as Putin in Russia and mad theocratic dictatorships in the Middle East. And we ceertainly don't want another cold war.
We're in agreement...my only point is you can be as happy with Obama as you want, or unhappy with Romney as you want. The ONLY thing that is going to matter is what happens in November. And the ONLY thing that will determine that, is what the job numbers are in the US, and what the stock market is doing, in September and October.
Obama needs unemployment below 8%.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: August 2, 2012 15:41
Unemployment is at 15%
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 2, 2012 17:16
Quote
mickscarey
Unemployment is at 15%
That includes the lazy bastids that have given up all hope. They were probably going to vote republican anyway.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
()
Date: August 2, 2012 18:00
I guess I'm changing the subject, but why do the Stones even need an opening act?
Have they ever gone it alone?
Have they ever gone it alone?
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
pinkfloydthebarber
()
Date: August 2, 2012 18:02
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Stones62
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FrankM
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pinkfloydthebarber
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FrankM
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pinkfloydthebarber
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mickschix
HURRAY FOR YOU, PINKFLOYD! At last someone speaks the truth, not only about Michael Moore but about the lies put forth by the Republican Party here in the USA: they are SHAMELESS! Half the time, they don't even bother to make up believeable lies, they just spew garbage in the hopes that SOME stupidos actually accept the crap as fact! GOOD JOB!
hey you know i was watching Faux News not long ago and some republican goof was on there actually saying stuff like 'in canada, politicians and bureaucrats decide if you’ll get the operation and medical procedure you need..'' blah blah blah
i mean all you can do is laugh, its so preposterous and dishonest
meanwhile the talking heads on Faux News were all nodding their heads in agreement, as if they had a clue
have you heard these clamouring idiots, the so-called 'Conservatives for Patients' Rights?' these wackjobs are clearly insane. they push complete BS about canada's healthcare system on americans all the time, just like the gibberish i heard on Faux News. little do they know or care that the health care system in canada is not run by 'government' but is run by but by doctors who are able to treat everyone, rich or poor; but instead of telling the truth they just use cheap politcal scare tactics and propaganda to push their agenda
they say canadians fall all over each other rushing to the USA for healthcare we 'can't get' here, and that we cannot choose our doctors, and we get 'assigned' them by the government. this is laughable in its stupidity and dishonesty. ive lived in Canada my whole life. neither I, anyone in my family, any relative nor any neighbour or friend ive ever known has ever gone to the U.S. for health care. ever. really, why would we? there is no waiting to see a GP in canada; i can call my doc's office and make an appt and see him later the same day, if i want to. and all i need is my health card, not my visa card. the doc then checks my pulse, not my wallet
or, i can go to a walk-in clinic, anytime, and be seen immediately. and, I choose my doctor. ive had the same one for decades. if I am not happy with him/her, I can go get another. no 'bureaucrat' or politician or government civil servant tells me what doctor to pick, or 'assigns' me one, or tells me where to have a procedure done, or what hospital or clinic to go to
sure, there is generally a wait time to see specialists, but that has more to do with the number of specialists, not with the healthcare system, per se. the system isn't perfect by any means, but it sure beats the U.S. one, where they say about 50 million people have no health coverage at all, and millions more are denied coverage even if they do have it, for 'pre-existing conditions' (that eat into corporate profits, of course)
is Canada's system perfect? no, probably not. but do canadians know that getting seriously ill or injured will not bankrupt them and wipe out their life savings or cost them their house? hell, yes, and we know that whatever happens to us, and however much money you have, or don't have, you will be looked after. no one has any doubt about that
and that generally makes for a happy populace
Now now pinkie what ever happened to the liberal mantra of "tolerance". You don't seem to be very tolerant of other views pinkie. I expect better from you pinkie.
innarresting
ok, so i am, i guess, supposed to 'tolerate' republican BS, outright dishonesty and lies about the healthcare system in MY country, hey?? is that the game? no, i prefer to call it out for the pure unadulterated BS it is, and laugh at it for how stupid it is, while being in disbelief that anyone would be dumb enough to actually believe it, or try and defend it...but thanks all the same though!
i mean, believe what you want, and defend those that ram this crap and nonsense down your throat all you want, but in the end.. if you choose to unquestionaly believe abject bullsh*t, that's your problem, not mine ..
if these conservative and republican liars would only tell the truth about Canada's health care system, of which I and Canadians know about and are familiar with, they'd earn our tolerance. ..and respect. as it stands though, when they spew outright BS as part of a political agenda obviously designed to fill peoples heads with misinformation and corporations wallets with ca$h, whether people know enough to believe it or not, they earn nothing but scorn and ridicule ..and our laughter
hows that for tolerant enough for ya?
No it's rather intolerant and I'm quite disappointed in you pinkie.
Hardly an intellectual response to a vaild observation. My expectations are too high I think.
this is quite hilarious, some american i presume right wing anti-intellectual lightweight Frank M telling me basically that he knows more about the canadian health care system, of which i have partaken in for over 50 years.. this is the thing with these right wing knobheads, they rarely if ever show any rational or pragmatical justification to what they bleat about
basically every word is condenmable as another of piece of petty politics; its the nature of the beast with these guys, their game is to always fall back onto some low level calibre of distraction or deflection
and then they still think they fool anybody.. lol
small ball savvy from Frank M. he knows absolutely nothing about the canadian health care system, he established that, and has unwittingly helped prove my point all along, lol, that's the main event
and then he says; 'Obama in power for four more years is way too many risks my friend. He's already done too much damage.'
hilarious ... too much damage? what damage? bush had already decimated the US economy before obama even got elected. billions blown on tax cuts where even they were targeted and piecemeal, tossing bones to favored interests; billions blown on the fraudulent war in iraq, billions more lost on hurricane katrina, a total disaster of bureaucratic mismanagement, because boy wonder sat on his hands and did nothing, billions lost on the economic crash started because bush never responded to the subprime mortgage crisis or regulated the banking and insurance industries, precipitating a monumental collapese which carried over the the entire planet, ruining global economies..
i mean its impossible almost to calculate the depth of damage that moron caused
bush, not obama, deliberately lied to the American people, deliberately lied to the United Nations and shamelssely manipulated intelligence data to justify sending america into a war with iraq which resulted in the deaths of thousands of American soldiers, of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children, leaving untold numbers of widows, widowers and orphans, broken homes, and an enormous number of Americans and Iraqi men, women and children maimed and / or traumatized by war, probably forever..
this surely not only justifies Bush's ranking as one of the worst presidents in US history (let alone as THE WORST ) but also as a war criminal..
i mean attacking obama's 'damage' in the face of all of that is completely laughable yet entirely predicatable from right wing loons ..its hilarious..but the usual standard epected tripe..from a guy that calls 'left wingers' "nutcases" and lunatics but then lectures about 'tolerance'.. hahaha hilarious stuff, keep it coming Einstein
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-02 18:04 by pinkfloydthebarber.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: August 2, 2012 18:09
No-bama is easily the worst president ever. He lied and lied about transparency, he sidestepped everything via hiring his thug czars, he IS a racist, his wife is a phony of the highest degree (board of directors of Walmart's top supplier, to start); he is a socialist; he is the classic, total EMPTY SUIT who knows nothing.
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
GumbootCloggeroo
()
Date: August 2, 2012 18:17
mickscarey, Obama is worse than Nixon? I give Nixon credit for good things he did, he was a brilliant politician at times, but come on. Obama worse than Nixon?!? Give me a break!
Re: Why Ted Nugent Should Never Be The Opening Act for the Stones
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: August 2, 2012 18:23
Not even close. The scariest person on Earth. Loves the Arab nations but rejects Israel. Shall I continue?
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