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Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: TheDailyBuzzherd ()
Date: July 27, 2012 22:02

There were signs on "Electric Ladyland" he was going in new directions, but it's a worthy question.
Quite a few poster children of the Peace'n'Love movement died when the Age of Aquarius dialed in:
Joplin, Jones, Hendrix, Wilson, Morrison; while others hung it up: The Beatles, Simon&Garfunkel,
Jefferson Airplane. By '72, many acts simply moved on.

It's interesting that a fad that lasted long and revered by some to this day didn't have NEAR the shelf
life some fads have had, namely rap, and the manufactured groups of today.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 27, 2012 22:21

It never died at all. It just evolved.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: July 27, 2012 23:23

Rap is not a fad, it's been around for a long time, as early as the beginning of the 20th century. [en.wikipedia.org]

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: TheDailyBuzzherd ()
Date: July 28, 2012 01:19

Rap is kinda a loosely defined thing and the modern one I'd argue is an offshoot of funk.

Dagger, to a degree. Some think it became "world music". Others think it became prog.
In other words, it split into factions. But the purer versions of it, say, garage, punk,
or "raga rock", has only been played by niche bands such as The Lyres.

I think it's safe to say that these pivotal deaths and the weariness of the Vietnam era
safely put this genre to rest. Hard to day where Hendrix would've gone on to had he lived.
Of course, this has been debated tirelessly since then ... I think he would've continued
in a reverse evolutionary track much as The Doors did ... only to return to his Experience
roots. I think a Hendrix / Jeff Beck union would've been interesting too.

Another thing ... terrible waste in Mitchell and Redding. Never had the success they enjoyed
with Jimi after that ... always loved the pairing of a rock guitarist with a rhythm section
with strong jazz sensibilities.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 28, 2012 02:10

Actually, though psychedelic music has always been around, its peak as a "fad" faded with the passing of 1967, with an across-the-board return for many artists to the basics of rock-n-roll, with the Beatles putting out Lady Madonna/Hey Bulldog and the Stones returning to form with Jumping Jack Flash/Street Fighting Man.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: Wry Cooter ()
Date: July 28, 2012 04:46

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stonesnow
Actually, though psychedelic music has always been around, its peak as a "fad" faded with the passing of 1967, with an across-the-board return for many artists to the basics of rock-n-roll, with the Beatles putting out Lady Madonna/Hey Bulldog and the Stones returning to form with Jumping Jack Flash/Street Fighting Man.

With arguably the beach Boys leading the way with late '67's DYI "Wild Honey," their response to the psychedelic overkill of the "Smile/Smiley Smile" fiasco.

As mentioned, psych's hey day was brief, but it's influence lived on not only with the popularity of Pink Floyd, and the ongoing genre of "Prog," but also as a continued influence on bands like XTC, various bands in the so called Paisley Underground and Jellyfish.



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Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: NoCode0680 ()
Date: July 28, 2012 06:54

I think the whole Psychedelic thing sort of faded when people began to realize that the whole San Fran scene, as well as others, had been highly romanticized and that there was some real ugliness going down amongst all the beauty.

I remember seeing an interview with George Harrison, it may have been on the Anthology series, but I may be wrong. Anyway he was talking about how in love he'd been with the idea of psychedelia and the San Francisco scene, until he actually made a trip there and was revolted by the reality of it. That in addition to him apparently looking at some LSD under a microscope and seeing that it looked like "old rope" or something like that and deciding he didn't want that stuff in his brain anymore led to him personally moving on. I can imagine other artists had similar experiences (the Stones certainly saw the reality of it at Altamont) and moved on, and with the likes of the Beatles and Stones moving on, pop culture was probably influenced to as well.

As somebody else said, I don't think it necessarily died, it just evolved. And you can see it's influence straight through to this day.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: July 28, 2012 07:06




Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 28, 2012 15:12

What is generally accepted as psych morphed and continued on through Prog Rock and bands like Hawkwind and The Pink Fairies etc. Steve Howe, for example, still considered himself a psychedelic guitarist when he joined Yes.

Psych is there in the acid house of the 80's, bands like Spacemen 3 and Mercury Rev, on to stoner rock of 90's - 00's.

The actual music was no more a fad than blues etc. There are die hard psych musicians just as there are die hard blues musicians, folk rock musicians and so on.

Basically since the presence of mind bending drugs and/or musicians with quirky minds there always was and always will be psychedelic music. The groovy, mostly white people stuff of 1965 - 1968 is just a few variations of it. Psychedelic music existed long before that time really and still does today.

* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *



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Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: July 28, 2012 16:17

anyone else getting psyched for a revival?

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 28, 2012 17:02

Psychedelic to me just means NO RULES, NO LIMITS, WITH LOVING INTENT, NON JUDGEMENTAL.

That covers alot of ground but describes alot of good music. In California it is hard not hear a bit of it in the air every time your antennae or ears choose to listen.

It is alive and well and living in my heart in any case. peace

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: July 28, 2012 17:04

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Naturalust
It is alive and well and living in my heart in any case. peace

that's kinda sappy, lustman...cowboy up or something, ok?

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: tkl7 ()
Date: July 28, 2012 19:13

Psychedelic fad ended by early 1968.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 28, 2012 19:32

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StonesTod
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Naturalust
It is alive and well and living in my heart in any case. peace

that's kinda sappy, lustman...cowboy up or something, ok?

That shouldn't be too hard around here really, Big Sky Country today. Don't be fooled you could probably put my feminine side in a thimble and still have room for your thumb. peace

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 28, 2012 20:05

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tkl7
Psychedelic fad ended by early 1968.

It didn't.

* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: ab ()
Date: July 28, 2012 21:14

After Music from Big Pink, musicians got off the space shuttle and back to the earth.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 28, 2012 22:18

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ab
After Music from Big Pink, musicians got off the space shuttle and back to the earth.

zzz, that's just a journalists cliche.

Some musicians continued on the path of mind expanding, boundary pushing, others got even more further out there and discovered new planets. thumbs up

* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: tonterapi ()
Date: July 28, 2012 22:40

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tkl7
Psychedelic fad ended by early 1968.
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Ever heard of prog, kraut and new age? The 70's was full of it but in new and evolved forms. I can assure you that the psychedelic fad didn't end in 68. But it wasn't "in" anymore in the way it was in 66/67.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 28, 2012 23:01

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tonterapi
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tkl7
Psychedelic fad ended by early 1968.
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Ever heard of prog, kraut and new age? The 70's was full of it but in new and evolved forms. I can assure you that the psychedelic fad didn't end in 68. But it wasn't "in" anymore in the way it was in 66/67.

What you described there, "in", is the definition of "fad". And psychedelia, when it was "in" it was "in" everywhere, even in the top 40 with psychedelic sitar sounds, green tambourines, etc., I time when tunes like I Had Too Much To Dream were actual top 40 hits--but that passed by 1968. Sure, psychedelia continues to thrive, but as a mainstream fad when everyone was tuning in and turning on, that was '66-'68.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 28, 2012 23:05

A bit of trivia: Q. First recording artist(s) to use the term psychedelic on an album? A. The Deep (Psychedelic Moods, 1966; Cameo-Parkway Records)




Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 28, 2012 23:15

Pschedelic music from...

1968:










1969:










1970:









1971:

Some mongs call this jazz rock, but really it's psych as fuckk! smoking smiley





Psych music was only a fad and over when the press said it was for those that treated it as a bandwagon to jump on. For a whole lot of people and musicians it was a natural, naturally evolved and ever evolving place to be.

* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 28, 2012 23:25

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stonesnow
A bit of trivia: Q. First recording artist(s) to use the term psychedelic on an album? A. The Deep (Psychedelic Moods, 1966; Cameo-Parkway Records)



It's only the first commercially available album to use the word in it's title. The word was used in songs etc before. winking smiley

* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 28, 2012 23:32

The answer to the original post is that no, the psych fad did not die with Hendrix.

* His Majesty, Prince Jones smiled as he moved among the crowd *



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Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: July 29, 2012 00:51

Was rockabilly a fad? Were garage bands a fad? Psychedilic music came and went like most movements. LSD was cool and then it became too heavy. The people that were making the music were doing LSD before the general public. Rap is the puzzler. It should have came and went by the mid-80s, but it continued on, with little or no evolving at all. The rap audience seems stunted. And once again, hip hop is not rap.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: July 29, 2012 00:52

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24FPS
Was rockabilly a fad? Were garage bands a fad? Psychedilic music came and went like most movements. LSD was cool and then it became too heavy. The people that were making the music were doing LSD before the general public. Rap is the puzzler. It should have came and went by the mid-80s, but it continued on, with little or no evolving at all. The rap audience seems stunted. And once again, hip hop is not rap.

you sound old and out of it

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 29, 2012 01:20

Rap needs LSD. But could Buddy Guy still become Hendrix with a proper dose? peace

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: July 29, 2012 01:23

i don't understand all this rap-bashing. are we nothing but a bunch of old fuddy-duds?

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: Wry Cooter ()
Date: July 29, 2012 03:44

Marijuana and LSD replaced booze and amphetamines as the rock and roll drugs of choice. Add Eastern and Near Eastern modalities, a touch of the avant garde and a few technological advances and there you have it. Enter heroin and coke....

Again, the vestiges of psychedelia lived on. As well as some already mentioned, I think of the influence it had on late 60s/early 70s soul music. The Temptations had a couple of good years milking that one! P-Funk was in on it and later Prince. Television definitely had listened to the 13th Floor Elevators and teh Grateful Dead.

And so forth....

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: July 29, 2012 04:02

Can't wait to hear what IORR's 60's legend DaveG's take on this is.

Re: Did the Psychedelic Fad Die with Hendrix?
Posted by: GOO ()
Date: July 29, 2012 04:42

Hendrix was blues

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