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Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Date: July 26, 2012 19:05

RE: "Canadians probably talk to each other a bit more than Americans. lol"

- - and screw. long winters and all

RE: "Eastern Canada might as well be Kiev, Russia to my understanding of it all."

-- you should visit there. nicest plac ive ever been; people are amazing. and if ya like seafood.. i have relatives that lobster fish for a living.

RE: "Back to guns, what about duck pheasant, grouse, and quail?"

-- Ive got no problem with that; millions of Canadians hunt. but for that you don't need an assault rifle and and 100 clips, or easy access to it, like the nutbucket colorado killer had

RE: "would Meredith Hunter be alive and well today if he had not brought his gun to Altamont??"

-- hmmm perhaps. unless he was dumb enough to pull it out in some other future, not so smart place as in altamont

hey and what's with the weird pyramid eye on that american dollar bill?? the irony is the words 'Annuit Cœptis' around it, that means 'he approves' as in god approves or supreme being of some sort, does, apparently watching.. but i think not listening

i'd say there's a lot of stuff he wouldn't approve of...like autotuners

we wouldnt be suffering from the current parade and blitz of bad pop singers if it weren't for those; you can hear the massive autotuning too on many 'country' releases; compression etc

it's just horrifying; there's no way the watchful pyramid eye is listening!

RE: "I can’t understand why people call this a stupid thread or OT or whatever. Half of the people on IORR are from (western) Europe, the other half from the US. While there are similarities, there are many cultural differences between the two, and I just find it very interesting to have an open, decent and respectful discussion about things we have different opinions on, like gun control.

At least I find it more interesting than a discussion about how many women Jagger slept with, or Ronnies new girl friend."


-- hear, hear bro. and, as i've tried to point out, there are many, many huge cultural difference s between americans and canadians too; i think the gulf is probably wider than many would assume, too;

i mean canada has newfies, ya know?? and those guys are one of a kind, lemme tell ya !



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-07-26 19:06 by pinkfloydthebarber.

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: July 26, 2012 19:08

From tragedy, to gun control, to US sucks, to Canada sucks.

This is a fascinating fireball of spiraling poop...

Thank you Canada for RUSH


Come What May

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: July 26, 2012 19:09

My point is, if he had NOT brought his gun, for whatever purpose, he might not be DEAD! Nothing cryptic here, MICKSCAREY. There has never been a determination, I don't think, as to WHY Hunter had the gun. It may have simply been for protection...

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 26, 2012 19:20

Did you say lobster? Trade you a brace of quail for a couple tails. Can we do that? Free trade and all??..... Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island I hear they grow some brussel sprouts up there too. Maybe our cultures aren't as different as you think. One world, I and I , all that stuff. peace

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: July 26, 2012 19:24

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mr_dja
Stonesnow: You've missed the current point of this thread... It's no longer a thread for the discussion of the shooting in Colorado or how to solve this type of problem, it's a thread for the users who dislike the USA to bash away at the laws, customs & culture of the USA.
Every thread on here turns into that now. Too bad BV won't do anything about it.

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: July 26, 2012 19:28

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sweetcharmedlife
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mr_dja
Stonesnow: You've missed the current point of this thread... It's no longer a thread for the discussion of the shooting in Colorado or how to solve this type of problem, it's a thread for the users who dislike the USA to bash away at the laws, customs & culture of the USA.
Every thread on here turns into that now. Too bad BV won't do anything about it.

Are you serious, SCL?

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 26, 2012 19:45

This thread has now turned into a Canada versus USA debate. Before that it was a personal conflict between two posters. After about ten pages this usually happens. To call it an USA hate thread is an overstatement though.

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Date: July 26, 2012 20:04

RE:"Did you say lobster? Trade you a brace of quail for a couple tails. Can we do that? Free trade and all??..... Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island I hear they grow some brussel sprouts up there too. Maybe our cultures aren't as different as you think. One world, I and I , all that stuff. peace"

-- yeah lobster. i'll do the trade. or maybe a 'surf and bird' deal. lots of potatoes grown over there, mcains owns pretty much everything

RE: "This thread has now turned into a Canada versus USA debate. Before that it was a personal conflict between two posters."

--i dont really think so. the thread meanders from this to that. i never felt as if there was any 'conflict.' just people sayin what they want, when they wanna. freedom of speech and all that. you cant really debate canada vs usa anyway; they are different and its pointless. both country's have their up and downsides. but hey threads often meander. that's when you can take it or leave it. some threads in here (as in any forum like this) are way more boring than this one, so i dont post in 'em. or read much of 'em. so if youre gonna leave it, REALLY leave it, ya know?

canadians and americans have long had these types of discussions on guns, sharing the longest, most undefended border in the world, and all; its a natural. its in the fabric. key is doing it civilly (so no one gets shot!) hey its really just a side discussion, i had no desire to hijack the thread or turn it into something its not. the main issue is the horrifying colorado affair. but at the same time whenever these things happen, you are gonna get talk about american gun control or lack therof. its the nature of the beast. and, it gets canadians talking about the influx of guns into our country illegally from there, and the seemingly ever increasing gun culture. its an interesting debate.

if people in other threads talk about their countries, europe especially, of which i am not familiar, i soak it up; love to read that stuff; i mean i dont have to read about the stones, all the time, ya know?

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: July 26, 2012 20:17

Dammit Canada.

Why did you make us listen to RUSH!!!

and how come your ginger ale is better tha ours!!!


Come What May

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: July 26, 2012 20:30

I happen to love Canada and it's people, who have always been welcoming when I've visited there. I do NOT love Rush, however.I turn them right off when they come on the radio. Great Ginger Ale, for sure! LOL. I usually say to my friends that I'm going to " move to Canada" when something bad happens here in the USA! One day I just might.

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: July 26, 2012 20:38

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Munichhilton
Dammit Canada.

Why did you make us listen to RUSH!!!

and how come your ginger ale is better tha ours!!!

1. I didn't know Rush Limbaugh was from Canada.
2. Dr. Brown's Ginger Ale is better than Canada Dry.

BTW I love visiting Canada and the Comedy they export to the US.

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Date: July 26, 2012 20:59

Quote
Munichhilton
Dammit Canada.

Why did you make us listen to RUSH!!!

and how come your ginger ale is better tha ours!!!

-- hahaha! we only invented rush, we didnt make you listen to it! we invented ginger ale (canada dry) in the 1890s so i suppose thats why its better.. ?

the 'dry' part is like with wine, it was made less sweet, with less sugar

it really took off as a mix for illegal booze during prohibition; the taste masked the flavour of the banned stuff

'course its owned by an american corp now (dr pepper)

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Date: July 26, 2012 21:11

RE: "I happen to love Canada and it's people, who have always been welcoming when I've visited there. I do NOT love Rush, however.I turn them right off when they come on the radio."

-- ha ha yep . i dont mind rush really. i mean the instrumental passages anyway. lol

i've had my rush moments

i remember in the fall of 1973 rush was booked to play our high school gym for a dance. they cancelled it, not enough tickets sold! at that point rush was pretty much unknown, even around here

i remember talking to kim mitchell of then of 'max webster,' the oft-opening band for rush, who jokingly compared geddy lee's voice to a 'strangled donald duck on qualuudes'

i saw them the next summer in town (London Ontario) at centennial hall, which incidentally was their original drummer's last gig with them; soon after that they began playing 'working man' all the time on 'magic 105' as it was known then, wmms cleveland - back when fm radio was album rock oriented

everybody thought it was zeppelin lol

i was at the 1975 massey hall gig that was recorded for the 'all the worlds a stage' record, too

after that i kinda lost interest, followed them until moving pictures, i guess

they members are great guys though, heavily involved in philanthropy; funny too. there's an episode of 'trailer park boys' (canadian show) with alex lifeson that is hysterical.







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Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: July 26, 2012 21:39

"hey and what's with the weird pyramid eye on that american dollar bill?? the irony is the words 'Annuit Cœptis' around it, that means 'he approves' as in god approves or supreme being of some sort, does, apparently watching.. but i think not listening"

BLASPHEMY! That's blasphemy! Burn the Canadian witch! grinning smiley

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: July 26, 2012 21:53

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Stoneage
This thread has now turned into a Canada versus USA debate. Before that it was a personal conflict between two posters. After about ten pages this usually happens. To call it an USA hate thread is an overstatement though.

What personal conflict do you hint at, Stoneage, and about what?

When we discuss something that directly relates to the US, some of us analyse the problems involved and pull conclusions. Others may not like to read those conclusions. In many cases they'll then use the magic formula 'US bashing'. But it isn't. It's also not about any "personal conflict" nor about which country is better than another.

That would be plain stupid. Because the idea 'country' is an abstractum. So being proud of the country you live in is weird and illogic. It's irrational and is often used by politicians to manipulate the inhabitants of a country. We all know historical and recent examples of it. Being born or living in a certain country is nobody's merit. It's mostly plain accidental.

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: July 26, 2012 22:00

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kleermaker
Being born or living in a certain country is nobody's merit. It's mostly plain accidental.

simple but true,to be hammered in concrete.


Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Date: July 26, 2012 22:13

RE: "Because the idea 'country' is an abstractum. So being proud of the country you live in is weird and illogic. It's irrational and is often used by politicians to manipulate the inhabitants of a country. We all know historical and recent examples of it. Being born or living in a certain country is nobody's merit. It's mostly plain accidental."

--i agree. and the bit about politicians is definitely true. history is rife of these episodes of politicians and governments manipulating the masses through jingoism, militarism, patriotism etc., sort of like as a political extension to justifying war or war on the poor, etc

that old machavellian trick of using slogans and symbols to appeal to the basest of instincts

definitly an inherent danger in that; it feeds distortion

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: Edith Grove ()
Date: July 26, 2012 22:15

Quote
pinkfloydthebarber
"Eastern Canada might as well be Kiev, Russia to my understanding of it all."


Could be why Dildo is in eastern Canada ? > [www.iorr.org]


Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 26, 2012 22:20

Quote
Kleermaker
What personal conflict do you hint at, Stoneage, and about what?

No one. I'm just establishing the fact that after a certain pages threads like these often turns into friction between some posters which I think impairs it.
But after 13 pages I think it's time to bury this thread anyway. It's now about something completely different...

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: July 26, 2012 22:39

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pinkfloydthebarber
RE: "for a disaster of a thread that is only going down in flames."

------

-- let’s see if I can notch this down a few levels into something even you can understand and accept; far as i can tell, only thing bringing it down is the tripe you put out like diarrhea in a salmonella ward; your defamation of the thread is just a mere convienience on your part. i suggest you prepair a better defence. my advice would be to just stay away, since those who are not up to holding their own for what ever reason usually post big, dumb pics, instead

Hey now, My 'boat pic' was accompanied by my point. Someone was blaming American gun violence on immigrants.
The boat I showed was The Mayflower - the worst immigrants to land on what is now called North America.

Maybe you meant the Titanic pic?

____________________________________________________________________

New Track - Indoor Sunshine
[www.thepowergoats.com]



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Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Date: July 26, 2012 22:44

Quote
Edith Grove
Quote
pinkfloydthebarber
"Eastern Canada might as well be Kiev, Russia to my understanding of it all."


Could be why Dildo is in eastern Canada ? > [www.iorr.org]

--lol yeah thats a provincial park (dildo run prov park) in newfoundland. VERY eastern canada; much further east than that and yer in ireland

there's a town called dildo in newfoundland too; a dildo island, too

they're newfies, what do ya expect?? !!

interstingly, or perhaps not, the whole area is pretty historic and the name may have come from the peg that used to be used to hold an oar to a boat, slid it in, ya know?

or some say the bay there is shaped like female genitalia, and they used to call the whales swiming up it 'dildo' whales. whatever, i'm sure the locals have heard it all. a while back a proposal to change the town's name was strongly voted down

there is a town called come-by-chance in newfoundland too, but hey, i'll leave that one alone



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Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: July 26, 2012 22:56

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treaclefingers
Quote
StonedInTokyo
A fine film critic, but he can keep his bleeding heart liberal policies to himself. Now I expect each of you who feels so strongly that guns don't make us safer to post this sign on your lawn:

"THIS HOME IS NOT PROTECTED BY FIREARMS"

In Canada we don't need to, it is presumed that no one has firearms in their home. A bit of a waste of lawn space in that respect.

True. We're not a fearful society like in The States. Hell, most of us don't even lock our doors when we're home. And we kill each other a lot less. Not because we're armerd or not, but because... well... we're Canadian.

This debate can go on and on. But really, if you'd like to see what The States would be like without the non-white-fearing and violent gun-loving culture, just look due north. I'd say our far-lower gun-violence body-count per captia says far more than any rhetoric that a gun-loving nutjob can spew.

Just saying.

____________________________________________________________________

New Track - Indoor Sunshine
[www.thepowergoats.com]

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: FrankM ()
Date: July 26, 2012 23:24

Quote
jamesfdouglas
Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
StonedInTokyo
A fine film critic, but he can keep his bleeding heart liberal policies to himself. Now I expect each of you who feels so strongly that guns don't make us safer to post this sign on your lawn:

"THIS HOME IS NOT PROTECTED BY FIREARMS"

In Canada we don't need to, it is presumed that no one has firearms in their home. A bit of a waste of lawn space in that respect.

True. We're not a fearful society like in The States. Hell, most of us don't even lock our doors when we're home. And we kill each other a lot less. Not because we're armerd or not, but because... well... we're Canadian.

This debate can go on and on. But really, if you'd like to see what The States would be like without the non-white-fearing and violent gun-loving culture, just look due north. I'd say our far-lower gun-violence body-count per captia says far more than any rhetoric that a gun-loving nutjob can spew.

Just saying.

Funny I haven't seen one gun loving nut job post in this thread. I've seen many people who believe in the right to own a handgun or rifle. I've seen many people who disagree with that but are able to make reasonable, rational posts that make some sense, although I disagree with them. I've also seen about three or four (and you know who you are) pompous, jealous of America, wish they were American and not from Canada or Holland nitwits that talk as if they got a psychology degree out of a Cracker Jack box.



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Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: July 26, 2012 23:36

Quote
FrankM
Quote
jamesfdouglas
Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
StonedInTokyo
A fine film critic, but he can keep his bleeding heart liberal policies to himself. Now I expect each of you who feels so strongly that guns don't make us safer to post this sign on your lawn:

"THIS HOME IS NOT PROTECTED BY FIREARMS"

In Canada we don't need to, it is presumed that no one has firearms in their home. A bit of a waste of lawn space in that respect.

True. We're not a fearful society like in The States. Hell, most of us don't even lock our doors when we're home. And we kill each other a lot less. Not because we're armerd or not, but because... well... we're Canadian.

This debate can go on and on. But really, if you'd like to see what The States would be like without the non-white-fearing and violent gun-loving culture, just look due north. I'd say our far-lower gun-violence body-count per captia says far more than any rhetoric that a gun-loving nutjob can spew.

Just saying.

Funny I haven't seen one gun loving nut job post in this thread. I've seen many people who believe in the right to own a handgun or rifle. I've seen many people who disagree with that but are able to make reasonable, rational posts that make some sense, although I disagree with them. I've also seen about three or four (and you know who you are) pompous, jealous of America, wish they were American and not from Canada or Holland nitwits that talk as if they got a psychology degree out of a Cracker Jack box.

Hey, don't knock it!

That takes a lot of commitment and insulin!

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: July 26, 2012 23:39


Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: July 26, 2012 23:47

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NICOS

cute!

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: July 26, 2012 23:49

Cute things are allowed..............grinning smiley





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Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: July 26, 2012 23:52

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NICOS
Cute things are aloud..............grinning smiley

which is actually spelled, "allowed".

Although if you said it aloud, it would still be spelled "allowed", unless you meant to say "aloud".

Then we would allow "aloud".

I hate when we have to get technical with the Europeans as I understand it takes away the spontenaity.

Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: July 27, 2012 00:17

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treaclefingers
Quote
NICOS
Cute things are aloud..............grinning smiley

which is actually spelled, "allowed".

Although if you said it aloud, it would still be spelled "allowed", unless you meant to say "aloud".

Then we would allow "aloud".

I hate when we have to get technical with the Europeans as I understand it takes away the spontenaity.

Thanks treaclefingers......it sound the same to me though.......but is it stupid....strange no one ever told me because I use it often confused smiley


Re: OT: Re Aurora Colorado
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 27, 2012 00:23

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BluzDude

Dr. Brown's Ginger Ale is better than Canada Dry.

yes, but Reed's Ginger Beer tops them all--up to 27 grams of ginger, that's g as in ginger extract, per bottle! (Reeds, Inc., is based in Los Angeles)



There's ginger root in every belch!

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