here is a good question for THE WHO. its clear they have a lot of great concerts recorded. why not release the full concerts in download or cd form instead of using them for bonus tracks on the expanded remasters, deluxe/super deluxe reissues, the 30 years of r&b box set and greatest hits live?

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here is a good question for THE WHO. its clear they have a lot of great concerts recorded. why not release the full concerts in download or cd form instead of using them for bonus tracks on the expanded remasters, deluxe/super deluxe reissues, the 30 years of r&b box set and greatest hits live?

They did just that with their last tour for Endless Wire. All the concerts on the tour were recorded and were available in CD or downloadable format so that you could get a full recording of the concert you attended (on DVD as well).

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Daltrey said this year's show would again feature an expanded band but it "won't be quite as big" as the previous tour and would not include guest singers for specific roles in the piece.

No Gary Glitter. Shucks.

I suppose you might expect a slightly expanded band to recreate the arrangements of the album--lost of horn parts that Entwistle played and such.

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here is a good question for THE WHO. its clear they have a lot of great concerts recorded. why not release the full concerts in download or cd form instead of using them for bonus tracks on the expanded remasters, deluxe/super deluxe reissues, the 30 years of r&b box set and greatest hits live?

They did just that with their last tour for Endless Wire. All the concerts on the tour were recorded and were available in CD or downloadable format so that you could get a full recording of the concert you attended (on DVD as well).

They did that for their 2002 and 2004 tours also, but I think he's means older concerts. Something like what the Stones have been doing, releasing shows from various phases of their career.

Here's a good publicity gimmick for the Who: In the same way that Roger Waters promised David Gilmour would play one song at one concert on Roger's tour for The Wall, Townshend should promise that he will break one guitar at one show sometime during the Quadrophenia tour. I've never seen Pete break a guitar. I saw Paul Stanley break one once, but that's not really quite the same thing now is it?

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here is a good question for THE WHO. its clear they have a lot of great concerts recorded. why not release the full concerts in download or cd form instead of using them for bonus tracks on the expanded remasters, deluxe/super deluxe reissues, the 30 years of r&b box set and greatest hits live?

They did just that with their last tour for Endless Wire. All the concerts on the tour were recorded and were available in CD or downloadable format so that you could get a full recording of the concert you attended (on DVD as well).

They did that for their 2002 and 2004 tours also, but I think he's means older concerts. Something like what the Stones have been doing, releasing shows from various phases of their career.

Yes, I gathered he meant that as well. I for one would love a complete version of Swansea '76, when they could really still thunder as a live act, Some U.S. dates from '75 as well. For some reason, though, it's always been impossible to find live '69 gigs--Townshend was dissatisfied with the quality of the performance or something. Do you have the Higher Education bootleg, with bits from their Georgetown '69 (November?) gig, where Townshend tussles with audience and police alike over their respective behavior? Priceless! Would love to have the complete set of that as well nicely remastered and the like.

Here's a bit of the Who at Georgetown November 1969--scorching!

Who’s going on tour again?

BRAD WHEELER
The Globe and Mail
Published Wednesday, Jul. 18 2012, 3:44 PM EDT
Last updated Wednesday, Jul. 18 2012, 3:54 PM EDT



Can you see the real Who? Can you? At an online “virtual press conference” on Wednesday, Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend announced plans for a North American arena tour of the band’s epic 1973 rock opera Quadrophenia. The tour commences on Nov. 1, in Sunrise, Fla., with Canadian dates to include Montreal (Nov. 20), Ottawa (Nov. 21), Toronto (Nov. 23) and Hamilton (Feb. 19, 2013).

“We’re anxious to work together before we drop dead,” said Townshend, 67, when asked why the twosome decided to hit the road. Added 68-year-old Daltrey, the other remaining founding member of the iconic maximum R&Bers: “I don’t know how many more years I can sing this type of music.” The tour announcement arrives ahead of next week’s one-night showing of a making-of-the-album documentary, The Who: Quadrophenia – Can You See The Real Me?, which is set for theatre screenings on July 24 in the United States, and Aug. 1, in Canada. For details: FathomEvents.com (U.S.) and cineplex.com/events (Canada).

The Who, who performed Quadrophenia in its entirety for charity at the Royal Albert Hall in 2010, last toured the piece in 1996 and 1997. That tour featured guest singers; the upcoming shows will not, according to Daltrey, who is in charge of the show’s presentation. Asked about an expansive production similar to Roger Waters’ giant concert presentations of The Wall, the songwriting Townshend said that he would consider it, but that Daltrey would not. As for holograms of deceased bandmates Keith Moon and John Entwistle, the curly-locked Daltrey admitted he had thought about it, but that it was a “gimmick,” that it was expensive, and that “everybody’s doing it.”

The press conference’s most riotous moments came when Townshend was asked about his forthcoming memoir, and specifically if the book would cause a rift similar to the one caused when Keith Richards’ autobiography infamously brought the derogatory term “tiny todger” into semi-popular lexicon. “What I remember of the size of Mick Jagger’s penis,” said the guitarist, “I remember it as being huge and extremely tasty.”

Moving on, the pair spoke of the Who’s involvement in the upcoming Olympic Games in London. Daltrey said the band had recorded a sort of medley, involving the “great music” that has come out of Great Britain. The taped piece is to be presented as the Olympics’ lip-synched grand finale.

For the North American Quadrophenia tour, the Who, as they were on the 2008-09 greatest hits tour, will be rounded out with Zak Starkey (drums), Pino Palladino (bass), Simon Townshend (guitar/backing vocals) and Chris Stainton (keyboards). Tour details can be found at thewho.com/tour.



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For the North American Quadrophenia tour, the Who, as they were on the 2008-09 greatest hits tour, will be rounded out with Zak Starkey (drums), Pino Palladino (bass), Simon Townshend (guitar/backing vocals) and Chris Stainton (keyboards). Tour details can be found at thewho.com/tour.

Chris played on a few tracks on the original Quadrophenia album, as well as on the Tommy movie soundtrack, but I can't remember that he ever toured with the Who before.



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I'm in NYC area, so definitely tempted by that December 5th gig.

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here is a good question for THE WHO. its clear they have a lot of great concerts recorded. why not release the full concerts in download or cd form instead of using them for bonus tracks on the expanded remasters, deluxe/super deluxe reissues, the 30 years of r&b box set and greatest hits live?

They did just that with their last tour for Endless Wire. All the concerts on the tour were recorded and were available in CD or downloadable format so that you could get a full recording of the concert you attended (on DVD as well).

They did that for their 2002 and 2004 tours also, but I think he's means older concerts. Something like what the Stones have been doing, releasing shows from various phases of their career.

Yes, I gathered he meant that as well. I for one would love a complete version of Swansea '76, when they could really still thunder as a live act, Some U.S. dates from '75 as well. For some reason, though, it's always been impossible to find live '69 gigs--Townshend was dissatisfied with the quality of the performance or something. Do you have the Higher Education bootleg, with bits from their Georgetown '69 (November?) gig, where Townshend tussles with audience and police alike over their respective behavior? Priceless! Would love to have the complete set of that as well nicely remastered and the like.

shows i know they have a full recording of that aren't released:
toronto dec. 17th, 1982(released but not official)
civic auditorium 1971
l.a. 1989
swansea 1976
shea stadium 1982

Founding members ROGER DALTREY and PETE TOWNSHEND will be joined by Zak Starkey (drums), Pino Palladino (bass), Simon Townshend (guitar/backing vocals), Chris Stainton (keyboards), Loren Gold (keyboards/backing vocals) and Frank Simes (musical director, keyboards/backing vocals).

Three keyboard players? .... and not a Rabbit among them?

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Founding members ROGER DALTREY and PETE TOWNSHEND will be joined by Zak Starkey (drums), Pino Palladino (bass), Simon Townshend (guitar/backing vocals), Chris Stainton (keyboards), Loren Gold (keyboards/backing vocals) and Frank Simes (musical director, keyboards/backing vocals).

Three keyboard players? .... and not a Rabbit among them?

Yes, that's what I was wondering--has Rabbit retired? For The Endless Wire show I saw them at in Boston 2006, Rabbit couldn't make the show due to illness and at the last minute they had to deputize one of their music techs on keyboard--as a result, no songs from Quadrophenia were played that night. Hey, but if Chris S. is the original keyboardist from the album, then that's fine with me. My best guess is that Pete wants to go for roots authenticity for the project. Rabbit probably likes to man the keys all by himself. You never see him perform onstage with other keys players there. Ha--funny that they would even take a moment to consider the hologram option...

I did a separate thing with them after - should publish soon - they seem pretty excited about this tour - one thing that struck me is what seems like a genuine kinship between these two men - they've clearly ben through a lot together but at this stage of the game, they seem extremely tight

From what I've been able to gather, Loren Gold and Frank Simes are both members of Roger Daltrey's solo touring band, but Simes is a guitarist not a keyboard player. So that means there's only two keyboard players, but three guitarists. Wonder if Pete plans on playing mostly acoustic, as he did during the 1996-97 Quadrophenia tour?

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From what I've been able to gather, Loren Gold and Frank Simes are both members of Roger Daltrey's solo touring band, but Simes is a guitarist not a keyboard player. So that means there's only two keyboard players, but three guitarists. Wonder if Pete plans on playing mostly acoustic, as he did during the 1996-97 Quadrophenia tour?

Oh, no! That solo in Love Reign O'er Me--Pete never plays it the same way twice, and that would be the highlight of the show for me...and now he probably won't even play it... At least there'll be no worries over Roger losing his voice or even struggling--since he had that nodule removed a couple of years back, his range is almost fully restored.



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I did a separate thing with them after - should publish soon - they seem pretty excited about this tour - one thing that struck me is what seems like a genuine kinship between these two men - they've clearly ben through a lot together but at this stage of the game, they seem extremely tight

It's like what Pete said toward the end of the Amazing Journey doc about how his relationship with Roger became "acutely emphatic" following John's death: "We're kind of all we've got now."



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From what I've been able to gather, Loren Gold and Frank Simes are both members of Roger Daltrey's solo touring band, but Simes is a guitarist not a keyboard player. So that means there's only two keyboard players, but three guitarists. Wonder if Pete plans on playing mostly acoustic, as he did during the 1996-97 Quadrophenia tour?

Oh, no! That solo in Love Reign O'er Me--Pete never plays it the same way twice, and that would be the highlight of the show for me...and now he probably won't even play it... At least there'll be no worries over Roger losing his voice or even struggling--since he had that nodule removed a couple of years back, his range is almost fully restored.

Pete did play some electric guitar towards the end of those 1996 shows, as seen here. There's probably no one I'd rather hear play acoustic than Pete, but to me, the sight and sound of Pete scrubbing away on an acoustic guitar is not really what the Who is supposed to be all about.






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From what I've been able to gather, Loren Gold and Frank Simes are both members of Roger Daltrey's solo touring band, but Simes is a guitarist not a keyboard player. So that means there's only two keyboard players, but three guitarists. Wonder if Pete plans on playing mostly acoustic, as he did during the 1996-97 Quadrophenia tour?

Oh, no! That solo in Love Reign O'er Me--Pete never plays it the same way twice, and that would be the highlight of the show for me...and now he probably won't even play it... At least there'll be no worries over Roger losing his voice or even struggling--since he had that nodule removed a couple of years back, his range is almost fully restored.

Pete did play some electric guitar towards the end of those 1996 shows, as seen here. There's probably no one I'd rather hear play acoustic than Pete, but to me, the sight and sound of Pete scrubbing away on an acoustic guitar is not really what the Who is supposed to be all about.

Ah, thanks for posting that, Tatters! Another 7 solid minutes of Who heaven! And once again, yet another unique middle solo in this great song. For a second or two, I was thinking of opting out of a ticket, but if he at least plays guitar on that one song, it will be worth the price of admission for me. I suspect the three-guitar treatment is Pete's intention of fully recreating the arrangements of the album and there were numerous guitar overdubs on Quadrophenia, with an acoustic beneath the overall sound throughout. I shall go and purchase a ticket tomorrow afternoon then.

Psychoderelict arrived today. i'll listen to it tonight on the way to work

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Psychoderelict arrived today. i'll listen to it tonight on the way to work

Excellent! I listen to it myself while working, as a motivational factor.

Any of you still have your ticket from this concert?


1979 Who Tickets Finally Good For Rhode Island Concert

By MICHELLE R. SMITH 07/19/12 02:20 PM ET AP
The Who 1979 Tickets

PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Fans still holding tickets for a canceled 1979 show in Rhode Island by British rock band The Who can finally use them.

The Who's 1979 concert in Providence was canceled by then-Mayor Buddy Cianci, who cited safety concerns after a stampede before a show in Cincinnati, Ohio, killed 11 people. The band hasn't been to Providence since.

The Who this week announced it will end its latest tour in Providence on Feb. 26 at the same venue where its show was canceled 33 years ago, now called the Dunkin Donuts Center.

General Manager Lawrence Lepore said on Thursday the venue will honor tickets from the canceled 1979 show. Lepore said many ticketholders got refunds for the canceled show in 1979, but others may have held on to their tickets as memorabilia.

"Somewhere, someplace, someone's got it stashed," he said. "The question is, are they willing to give that up? If they are, we're willing to take it."

He first made the offer on WPRO-AM, which then asked listeners to call if they still had a 1979 ticket. No one did.

The highest price ticket at the 1979 show was $14, Lepore said. Tickets for February's show range from $57.50 to $127.50.

Lepore said 1979 ticketholders can call his office to make the exchange. Any 1979 tickets redeemed will be donated to help raise money for the Special Olympics of Rhode Island.

Jeez, I hope they add more shows. I saw the last one in Buffalo. I must say that it was one of the best sounding shows I've ever seen. After the main show and before they did a short set of classics Daltry spoke of buying his first car in Buffalo back in the early days. Please come back to Buffalo!!!

One of the many reasons I went was to watch Entwistle play. Gary Glitter was cool, but Billy Idol stole the show. He was loudly cheered every time he stepped to the mic. I became a fan of his after that.

psychoderelict is a really strange album that has great songs bogged down by a complicated story. i like about 5 songs a lot and thought 2 other were pretty good. the talking and story actually hurt the songs. overall i'd give it a 3/5

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psychoderelict is a really strange album that has great songs bogged down by a complicated story. i like about 5 songs a lot and thought 2 other were pretty good. the talking and story actually hurt the songs. overall i'd give it a 3/5

It referenced the aborted Lifehouse a lot (Gridlife, and the 'experience suits' people would wear, with each making their own music to add up to a universal sound, 'one note,' if you're familiar with the story; When Ray High refers to revisiting musical ideas he was developing in 1970, that's autobiographical). I must be the only PT fan who loves Psychoderelict from start to finish. Anyway, here's a Townshend song from the Lifehouse project:





Scoop is a great collection of demos. Also recommended:



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now it makes a little more sense to me after the explanation. i think it would have worked better as a WHO album with just the music or a booklet with the story part mapped out so you would read the story and at certain points the booklet would tell you to go to a certain song and listened to it to help further the story. that seems more reasonable to me instead of having people talking over great music.

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now it makes a little more sense to me after the explanation. i think it would have worked better as a WHO album with just the music or a booklet with the story part mapped out so you would read the story and at certain points the booklet would tell you to go to a certain song and listened to it to help further the story. that seems more reasonable to me instead of having people talking over great music.

There's also a music-only version of Psychoderelict, but you probably don't want to buy the same thing twice. There are currently used versions on Amazon for as little as $4.11. And yes, it would've made a great Who album--Daltrey's voice would really have rocked English Boy.