Lawsuits drag on forever, cost a fortune to hire the expert lawyers re slander and other accusations. Meanwhile other news outlets run the lawsuit story endlessly and the false allegations take on a huge life of their own.

We see a lot of false allegations from various publications being posted on IORR.

Just think if Rockman, for example, became suddenly world-famous, we'd see stories on "The Real Rockie" and "His School Teacher Squeals" and "He Never Did Anything for Me." "What Keith Richards Really Thinks About Australian music authority Rockman" And of, course the usual lawsuits that come early in with fame -- charges by assorted women, children, casual acquaintances etc.

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To answer the original question, for me it is difficult to admire someone's work if I don't agree with their personal life. Mick doesn't make it hard at all to admire him. The relationship with Ms. Hall was obviously problematic in many ways and since I wasn't part of their relationship, I really don't have much of an opinion. From what I have read, and based on what is actually true, I think they both made mistakes. Overall, I think Mick has strong values and morals.

Luckily for me, I don't follow the personal lives of many artists, so I can enjoy just about anything! But, unfortunately, I can't really separate the personal and professional lives...John Mayer is like this for me. I love his work, but quite awhile ago I read some really offensive things he said, and I couldn't listen to him anymore. It's been more than a year and now I have forgotten exactly what he had said and am starting to listen to him again. Tom Cruise is another...I can't watch any of his movies.

Mayer and Cruise are good examples. Personally, i think Mayer is a boy scout compared to the kind of things we've read over the years about out favorite musicians from the 60s and 70s...He's allegedly randy, cocky and a smartass....who cares? I like his music. Same with Cruise - the Scientology thing is the biggest thing with him and that, I admit, makes him an unsettling personality. But then again, his performances in Collateral, Magnolia or Minority Report are so edgy and charismatic in a way Brad Pitt or Matt Damon will never be and while I'm watching the films, I don't care about his religion or relationship issues. I can make a personal judgement about someone and separate that from their work.
I never thought I would enjoy Woody Allen movies after that whole mess in the early 90s....but I just saw To Rome With Love on Thursday....and I don't think about all the other stuff.



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You all keep trashing Christopher Anderson...but I think that if he couldn't back up his assertions, he would have been sued.

Not really.

How do you disprove someone saying youve slept with xxx number of women or xxx number of men? Or disprove stories about relationships with people who are dead?

The Carla Bruni thing. No one's doubting the (already widely accepted and reported) story that they had a fling in Thailand. Jagger's hardly going to sue him for making up a false allegation that he flew there from London the day after his son was born - when in reality he flew there from Japan six weeks later. He still comes out of it badly, even if he's successful.

More bother than it's worth. You've read some of the excerpts of this book. Surely anyone with a basic knowledge of the subject's history can find it reasonably easy to pick holes in the accuracy of some of the stuff this guy is parroting as 'fact' ?

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seen accounts of Mick's r'ship with Karis/Marsha like this

[www.people.com]

"People" is a reliable source? Since when?

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and Princess Margaret

[articles.baltimoresun.com]

Good grief. So they 'flirted'. According to 'an unnamed observer' (very credible source, there). He MUST have banged her, then!

written by Christopher Anderson in 1993, no less. What a fine body of work he's produced over the years.



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If ya gonna be an artist/musician/actor why on earth would you wanna do experientially what "normal" people are expected to do. The whole point of living a creative live is pushing the envelope morally and otherwise.
When someone hands you two plates of fruit:

Plate 1 - adorned with a rich array of succulent, exotic fruit you do not normally encounter.
Plate 2 - arranged with sliced apples, banana and pears.

Which plate ya gonna go for.......

However things have changed somewhat in the last decade, as David Lee Roth astutely said, "What were once the specialised habits of trained professionals are now commonplace."

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You all keep trashing Christopher Anderson...but I think that if he couldn't back up his assertions, he would have been sued.

Here we go

"An explosive new biography of Mick Jagger, claiming he slept with dozens of famous men as well as women, has got the lawyers foaming. A Rolling Stones spokesman tells me they're planning to sue author Christopher Andersen and Simon and Schuster, who published the book in America. The book is due to be published in Britain later this month by Robson Press, a small imprint of Iain Dale's Biteback Publishing, founded only last year. "I'm not going to say who Mick has and hasn't slept with," says the spokesman, "but it's filled with plain inaccuracies. It's got Mick and Keith going to Dartford Grammar, when Keith went to Dartford Tech then Sidcup Art College."

[www.independent.co.uk]

I'm not usually one to be irritated about 'exposé' type biographies, but I genuinely hope Mick bleeds the bastard dry on this one.

I was reading another excerpt...and while Anderson is a shameless hack who exaggerates and gets certain facts wrong, Jagger's pattern of behavior is something that has been known for a long time. And many of these names - the women - are familiar to me from when the affairs allegedly occurred -
I hate to say it, but much of this rings true from what we know about the man. Maybe not the day to day details, dates, time-sequences, the 4,000-head count etc......but we know he was shamelessly dishonest to his women about other women.
But I always knew knew this - so it doesn't change who Mick Jagger is for me...
I'm not in any way defending Anderson, but some of the things these women say rings true and to pretend that they're all fabrication is delusional.


How Mick met his match: Jagger was left by Angelina Jolie after a brief romance, new biography reveals
By CHRISTOPHER ANDERSEN
PUBLISHED: 19:49 EST, 15 July 2012 | UPDATED: 10:47 EST, 16 July 2012
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On Saturday, in our first extract from his compelling new biography of Mick Jagger, author Christopher Andersen revealed how the infamous ladies’ man also bedded a string of men. Today, Andersen describes how Jagger’s affair with Italian model Carla Bruni drove Jerry Hall to despair — before he turned his attention to a beautiful young unknown called Angelina Jolie.
For Mick Jagger, nothing was more irresistible than a stunning woman who belonged to another man.
Preferably a friend. Even better, another rock star. And few have more cause for complaint than Eric Clapton, the guitarist who had to stand by as Jagger tried to steal not one but three of his amours.
The first time, he’d tried to lure away Clapton’s first wife Patti Boyd — without success. Then, during the Rolling Stones’ Steel Wheels tour in 1989, he made a determined play for Clapton’s 18-year-old girlfriend of the moment.


Infatuation: Mick Jagger relentlessly pursued then-unknown actress Angelina Jolie after she appeared in a Rolling Stones music video, according to a new biography
While this was going on backstage, Jagger’s Texan-born girlfriend Jerry Hall was standing just a few feet away with their children, Elizabeth and James.
‘Mick was flirting with the girl outrageously. Jerry just ignored it, but you couldn’t help but feel sorry for her,’ recalled a crew member.
Then, two years later, Jagger spotted Clapton with a 23-year-old Italian model called Carla Bruni. She seemed to possess every quality he desired: jaw-dropping beauty, youth, money of her own — and, perhaps most important of all, a rock-star boyfriend.
‘Please, Mick,’ Clapton pleaded, ‘not this one. I think I’m in love.’

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But within days, Jagger and Bruni had begun a clandestine affair. When Clapton eventually heard about it, he was devastated.
‘The obsession with Mick and Carla gripped me for the rest of that year,’ he said. ‘It took some grisly turns when I found myself guesting with the Stones on a couple of shows, knowing she was lurking in the background.’
Inevitably, rumours of the affair reached Jerry, who’d only recently managed to lure Jagger to an altar in Bali — on November 21, 1990 — where the couple pledged their troth in a Hindu ceremony.

Unhappy ending: Mick wed model Jerry Hall in Bali on November 21, 1990 in a Hindu ceremony. She filed for divorce in 1999 and and Jagger contested the petition on the grounds that their wedding hadn’t been valid


Former conquests: The Rolling Stones star had a fling with actress Uma Thurman (left) and Brazilian model Luciana Morad became pregnant with his child after their brief dalliance
Afterwards, while Jerry was changing for bed, Mick had dallied with the wife of a friend. ‘He jumped me — can you believe it?’ the woman said later. ‘Mick tried to make love to me on his wedding night!’
His timing may have been humiliating, but Jerry was under no illusions about her marriage. So when she first heard about Carla, she dismissed her as just another Stones camp follower.
A year later, however, stories in the Press revealed the affair was still going strong. Jerry immediately ordered Jagger to end it but, instead, he stomped off in a rage.
Worried that she might have pushed him too far, Jerry abjectly begged him to forgive her.
Apparently touched by his wife’s apology, Mick plonked down £2.7?million for a 26-room Georgian mansion overlooking the Thames in Richmond, Surrey.
And while Jerry — now pregnant with their third child — set about redecorating his latest acquisition, Mick decided to return to Carla, who was meanwhile hedging her bets with other wealthy admirers.
Having just ended an affair with Crown Prince Dimitri of Yugoslavia, she was consorting with the brash New York real estate tycoon Donald Trump.
Although Trump later conceded that she was still ‘desperately stuck’ on the Rolling Stone, Carla reportedly offered to end her affair with Jagger if Trump dumped his fiancée, Marla Maples. Her campaign — conducted partly through constant phone calls — ‘became a pain in the a**’, according to Trump.
‘She was trying to get me to leave Marla .?.?. and she was using every psychological trick in the book. In the end, Carla became a woman who’s very difficult to even like,’ he said.
On January 12, 1992, Jerry gave birth to her third child, Georgia May. The following morning, Jagger boarded a plane bound for Thailand.
There, he and Bruni checked into the luxurious Amunpuri Hotel in Phuket, using the tongue-in-cheek (and vaguely Thai-sounding) name ‘Someching’.
When Jerry managed to get through to him, she demanded to know if he was with Carla. He told her he wasn’t.
‘A man’s supposed to be with his woman when she’s just had a baby,’ Jerry said plaintively.

'I'll be your mistress forever': Jagger had a long affair with then-model Carla Bruni, who he met while she was dating his friend Eric Clapton (pictured, left)
While Jerry recovered from the birth, Jagger and Carla strolled on the beach, swam in their villa’s private pool and prowled the nightclubs of Phuket.
‘They danced and kissed,’ one club bartender recalled. ‘There was a lot of touching going on.’
Satisfied that Jerry was no longer a problem, Carla bragged to her friends that her 48-year-old boyfriend was ‘incredible in bed’.
To the Press, she protested: ‘I hardly know the man. Perhaps someone’s pretending to be me.’ Jerry wasn’t fooled: at one point, she intercepted a message from Carla that had been written in code — albeit not a very sophisticated one.
When Jerry held the missive, with its reversed writing, up to the mirror, she read the words: ‘I’ll be your mistress for ever.’
She felt sick. ‘I cried myself inside out,’ Jerry said later.
It was no use demanding an explanation from her husband on his return — he simply stormed out again. So Jerry rang Carla to beg: ‘Leave my man alone!’ The Italian model slammed down the phone.
During another call, she stayed on the line long enough for Jerry to plead: ‘There’s a family, and there are three children involved.’
For all her distress, Jerry couldn’t have been unaware that there was a certain poetic justice to her plight. In her younger days, she’d performed a raunchy cabaret act at private parties with the singer Grace Jones.
The Shah of Iran was so taken by the lanky Texan with the down-home drawl that he flew her to Tehran and entertained her at his palace. Soon afterwards, she moved in with fashion illustrator Antonio Lopez, developed a career as a model and eventually became the fiancée of British rock star Bryan Ferry.
This didn’t stop her sleeping with Jagger on the night they met — and he, of course, took enormous delight in stealing her from Ferry.
Nor did either of them appear to spare much thought for Jagger’s wife, Bianca: indeed, it was only when the lovers flew off to Barbados that Bianca realised her marriage was over.
Still, Jerry was determined to hold onto her man. For a few months, at least, her power seemed in the ascendant as Jagger settled into their French castle, La Fourchette, to play happy families.
Then he flew to Los Angeles to work on his Wandering Spirit album — where he was soon beguiled by Melissa Behr, a 27-year-old blonde who had the added attraction of also being the girlfriend of the American rock musician Charlie Sexton.
Jerry kept her cool — until she heard that Carla was also keeping Jagger company in California. A few months later, the two models happened to bump into each other in Paris, where both were working.
In the middle of the lobby of the Ritz hotel, Jerry reportedly called Carla a tramp, then shouted: ‘Why can’t you leave my husband alone?’
‘Tell your husband,’ Carla replied haughtily, ‘to leave me alone!’

The Jagger clan: Mick and Jerry with their children James and Elizabeth
Asked later for her opinion of Jerry, she said: ‘I think people should learn not to wash their dirty linen in public. Maybe in Texas they think this shows class, but I think her behaviour shows a big lack of discretion and elegance.’
It was all too much: Jerry announced that she and Jagger were separating.
Even Keith Richards, the Rolling Stone who’d known Jagger since primary school, urged him to come to his senses.
‘You know — the old black book bit — kicking 50, it’s a bit much, a bit manic,’ he said.
He had a point: Mick had reportedly told Carla that he’d slept with 4,000 women, and he was certainly showing no sign of slacking. However, he wasn’t about to let Jerry go if he could help it.
So he pleaded with her to take him back, and she did — though it was a decision she’d soon regret.
Back in Paris, the normally resilient Carla was inconsolable when she heard Jagger and Jerry were back together.
‘I thought I’d never get over it,’ she recalled. ‘I used to wake up every morning in despair. I thought I’d never fall in love with someone else.’
His marriage woes temporarily behind him, Jagger concentrated on recording a new album, Voodoo Lounge, and preparing for a tour that spanned six continents and grossed $320?million. Much to Jerry’s chagrin, he also found time to pursue his other favourite activity.
On October 10, 1994, while the Stones were finishing a gig in New Orleans and getting ready to move on to Las Vegas, a fax meant for Mick wound up in Jerry’s hands.
It was from Carla and read simply: ‘See you at the MGM Grand.’
Jerry didn’t hesitate: she scotched the assignation by taking the next plane to Nevada.
The Italian model continued to see Jagger for several more years — not that she was his only mistress, of course. In March 1995, on the Japanese leg of the Voodoo Lounge tour, Jagger had a week-long affair with a 22-year-old British model called Nicole Kruk. His love-making, said Kruk, was ‘pretty rough’.

Ready to settle down? The rocker has been dating designer L'Wren Scott for ten years
The following year, Jagger founded a film company — Jagged Films — and appeared to be too busy for dalliances. Or so Jerry thought.
Her friends weren’t so sure — so without her knowledge, they clubbed together to pay for a private investigator.
Within weeks, he’d compiled a thick dossier detailing Mick’s nocturnal activities in and around London, including nights with yet another model in the Halcyon Hotel. ‘We didn’t want to see her hurt again,’ said one of the friends. ‘But I suppose this has backfired.’
By that autumn, Jagger was bedding the actress Uma Thurman, who was then 26 (27 years Mick’s junior) and had just finished playing the seductive villain Poison Ivy in the movie Batman And Robin.
Shortly after a photographer caught them in a passionate clinch, Jagger was snapped with 29-year-old Czech-Polynesian model Jana Rajlich as she was leaving his bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel early one morning.
They’d reportedly enjoyed an on-again, off-again affair for years: she’d even once stayed at the same hotel as Mick and Jerry for three weeks, where the singer had shuttled between the two women.
This time, Jerry hired a divorce lawyer and told Jagger their marriage was over. He responded with a bombardment of tender love notes, flowers and expensive gifts — and, incredibly, she took him back again.
For a while, the marriage seemed to thrive, with Jerry becoming pregnant in 1997 with her fourth child. Then Jagger flew to New York to film the video for the Stones song Anybody Seen My Baby?
His attention was immediately caught by a lushly beautiful unknown who’d been hired to play a stripper in the video. Her name was Angelina Jolie.
Beyond her obvious physical attributes, Angelina offered something extra: an element of danger. ‘She scares me a little — I like that,’ Jagger said.
Highly strung, foul-mouthed, and given to dark moods and fits of temper, not only was she married — to the British actor Jonny Lee Miller — but she was already having an affair with the actor Timothy Hutton.
Jagger kept phoning until he wore her down and she agreed to meet up with him in Florida. The weekend left Angelina unimpressed and Mick wanting more.
His phone calls — which mostly went straight to answering machine — became increasingly desperate. Her mother’s friend, Lauren Taines, who listened to some, described them as ‘astonishing’ and said Jagger was ‘virtually sobbing’.
Somehow, he persuaded Angelina to see him again, and their romance lurched on for another two years. Once, he was on the phone, beseeching her to join him on tour in Brazil, when the call was interrupted by Jerry — ringing to say she’d given birth to their fourth child, Gabriel.
When Angelina was unable to join him in South America, Jagger consoled himself with a 6ft Brazilian model and soft-porn actress called Luciana Morad. Besotted, his new lover later flew at her own expense to join him at locations round the world.
But not all of Jagger’s conquests during this period were leggy models. Claire Houseman, who’d formerly looked after Sting’s children, joined the Jagger family as a nanny on a Stones tour — and, after being ushered into a suite, was startled when the singer walked naked out of the shower to greet her.
The next day, Claire was making coffee in the kitchen when Jagger, who was then 55, sidled up to her. He began by stroking her hair, then lifted her onto the kitchen counter.
‘We kissed passionately,’ the nanny said. ‘The next thing I remember, he was making love to me.’
Afterwards, Jagger helped her down off the counter, kissed her on the nose and said: “OK, babe.”’ Incredibly, Jerry was in the bedroom just 30ft away.
Some months later, Luciana told Jagger she was pregnant. According to her former roommate, Lars Albert, she’d set out to ‘trap’ the Stone by having his baby — an allegation she vehemently denied.
Jerry was so traumatised by the news that she flew off to New York with baby Gabriel. Jagger, for his part, headed for their French château, stopping off in Paris to have dinner with Carla at her apartment.
The next morning, Carla told a photographer about her evening with Jagger. ‘If I’d met Mick before he was married, I’d have loved to marry him. Mick would make a fantastic husband,’ she said.
On January 15, 1999, Hall filed for a divorce on the grounds of ‘multiple adultery’ — and Jagger contested the petition on the grounds that their Hindu wedding hadn’t been valid.
In the end, she received £10?million in cash and the mansion in Richmond. As for Luciana, she got £3.5?million, plus £18,000 a month in child support.
In the meantime, Jagger’s womanising continued — including one night in a Bangkok hotel with Angelina Jolie, for old times’ sake. At one point he was even involved with a sex therapist.
‘He loved to spank,’ the therapist, Natasha Terry, said of their affair. ‘I started laughing because I was never into spanking.’
Her professional opinion? ‘I think he’s like a sex vampire. Being with all these different people makes him feel young and gives him all this energy.
‘He can’t stay faithful. He has to get that satisfaction from bedding a lot of women at the same time.’


Extracted from Mick: The Wild Life And Mad Genius of Mick Jagger by Christopher Andersen, to be published by The Robson Press on July 24 for £20. © 2012 Christopher Andersen. To order a copy for £15.99 (incl p&p) call 0843 382 0000.



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I agree with stupidguy2, that while there is certainly many inaccuracies and lies in the book, there has to be some general truths as well. I am curious as to what he writes about Mick's relationship with L'Wren Scott. The public perception of them is that she has settled him down, I bet it has more to do with age and what it does to testosterone. I have always wondered though if he has really changed or become more discreet, and maybe L'Wren doesn't care if he fools around.
OK, I know it's gossiping...

Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

So many women have been quoted...no complaints in the todger department, so maybe Mick should expand his lawsuit to include Keith.

But this was a surprise, and not a happy one - ‘He loved to spank,’ the therapist, Natasha Terry, said of their affair.

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Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

So many women have been quoted...no complaints in the todger department, so maybe Mick should expand his lawsuit to include Keith.

But this was a surprise, and not a happy one - ‘He loved to spank,’ the therapist, Natasha Terry, said of their affair.

Or that he had 'rough sex'-
not really surprising but you don't have to be a shrink to know that that implies some kind of power issues regarding the opposite sex.
I know what you mean Bliss......we get accused to reading too much into things and I admit I do. But Mick's pattern of behavior and the reasons for it are fascinating to me. Maybe it makes men uncomfortable, I don't know. But its part of who he is and it manifests itself in the music. So its part of the artist's makeup.

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Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

So many women have been quoted...no complaints in the todger department, so maybe Mick should expand his lawsuit to include Keith.

But this was a surprise, and not a happy one - ‘He loved to spank,’ the therapist, Natasha Terry, said of their affair.

Or that he had 'rough sex'- not really surprising but you don't have to be a shrink to know that that implies some kind of power issues regarding the opposite sex.

Actually it's pretty funny when you think of the behemoths Mick favours. I bet L'Wren and Jerry could pick him up by the scruff of the neck and toss him across the room.

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I agree with stupidguy2, that while there is certainly many inaccuracies and lies in the book, there has to be some general truths as well. I am curious as to what he writes about Mick's relationship with L'Wren Scott. The public perception of them is that she has settled him down, I bet it has more to do with age and what it does to testosterone. I have always wondered though if he has really changed or become more discreet, and maybe L'Wren doesn't care if he fools around.
OK, I know it's gossiping...

Gossip, shmossip......who gives a @#$%&.
We've all been reading about Jagger for years, some of us decades and his life is fascinating because of his flaws.
IMO, there is nothing wrong with having a theory or two and sharing it. If some IORRers are annoyed, offended, outraged or bored with it, don't click on the thread.
I also wonder if Jagger's seeming stable relationship with L'wren is due to age or the woman. I tend to think its a bit of both. I've been reading Jerry Hall's interviews since 1979 and throughout the years...there didn't seem to be a lot of emotional growth there in terms of her relationship with Mick, If the women is not going to grow up, why would the man? It seems to me that there was a stifling element to that relationship. Neither helped the other evolve. Jerry Hall calling out Carla Bruni in 1993 was the same as Jerry Hall calling out some other chick in 1979. Instead of challenging him or leaving him, she continued to have children and write silly, adolescent notes begging for forgiveness. Maybe Jerry Hall is wiser now and more mature, but she didn't show it for the 20+ years there were 'married'.
Lwren does seem mature and confident. Maybe all he needed was a woman to stand up to him and earn his respect, as a person. That and coming along at the right time of his life.



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Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

So many women have been quoted...no complaints in the todger department, so maybe Mick should expand his lawsuit to include Keith.

But this was a surprise, and not a happy one - ‘He loved to spank,’ the therapist, Natasha Terry, said of their affair.

Or that he had 'rough sex'- not really surprising but you don't have to be a shrink to know that that implies some kind of power issues regarding the opposite sex.

Actually it's pretty funny when you think of the behemoths Mick favours. I bet L'Wren and Jerry could pick him up by the scruff of the neck and toss him across the room.

Or maybe its the conquest of controlling a behemoth....it is funny. Little ol Mick.

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I suspect this has more to do with it than L'Wren standing up to him. I think people underestimate timing in a relationship, and overestimate "true love." I think you are right about Jerry, she never seemed very mature to me, but neither did Mick. Maybe they've both grown up.

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Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

on you?


Taking this a bit personal, aren't you?



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on you?


Taking this a bit personal, aren't you?

She's baiting you...maybe be a slight crush she has. Or something.

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Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

on you?


Taking this a bit personal, aren't you?

She's baiting you...maybe be a slight crush she has. Or something.

I've been reeled in!

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Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

on you?


Taking this a bit personal, aren't you?

She's baiting you...maybe be a slight crush she has. Or something.

I've been reeled in!

Dream on guys. I think maybe Bliss just doesn't want another go around with Gazza..no pun intended.

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Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

on you?


Taking this a bit personal, aren't you?

She's baiting you...maybe be a slight crush she has. Or something.

I've been reeled in!

Dream on guys. I think maybe Bliss just doesn't want another go around with Gazza..no pun intended.

Me thinks you just wanna piece of the gazzattraction for yerself?

I wonder what a nosey in to the priavte life of Christopher Anderson would bring up!?

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Yes, I saw this latest installment, but didn't post it for fear of having more of our dear Gazza's vitriol heaped upon me.

on you?


Taking this a bit personal, aren't you?

She's baiting you...maybe be a slight crush she has. Or something.

I've been reeled in!

Dream on guys. I think maybe Bliss just doesn't want another go around with Gazza..no pun intended.

Me thinks you just wanna piece of the gazzattraction for yerself?

Oh no, I knew I shouldn't have gone there...time to move on guys, back to Jagger's fantasy love life.

Suits me....LMAO

Aren't WE the ones who should be criticized, we with our PC moral standards.

Jagger sexually blossomed in the 60's where everyone slept with everyone. And he keeps doing now what he did then, in other words he brings the 60's to our constipated era. So what? He didn't force anyone to have sex with him!

Mick as he himself said isn't a paragon of of virtue and of course there is a certain pattern of behavior in his life
But still his behavior is incomparable with Picasso or Lucien Freud. Picasso had affairs with hundreds of women, and was true to none of them(except possibly the last). He abused his women physically and emotionally and said horrible things about them. How do you like this, for example - "Nothing like a poodle on the way as another poodle. The same can be said about women" or this pearl: "Whenever changing a wife, you need to burn the previous one. That's how I got rid of them ... Maybe it would have restored my youth. Killing a woman,you're destroing the past she is marked." My favorite - "I hate sick women" (when his wife who bore him two children fell ill)
In comparison with that Stupid Girl or Under My Thumb are just baby talk really

L.Freud had several families at once and there were three or four, even five children in every of them. He had, it seems, 40 children but communicated only with ??two daughters, the rest he did not even want to know.

But the difference is that they are the subjects of study in art history books, and they write about Jagger in the tabloids. Art historians (and the general public) consider love life of great artists in the context of their art. Tabloids and their readers are interested only in scabrous details of Mick's personal life apart from his work

But I am amused by the indignant reactions of Daily Mail readers after the publication of each of the passages from Andersen book.
While most of his contemporaries become white and fluffy that everyone loves, only Mick Jagger retains the ability to cause disturbance in the middlebrow



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You all keep trashing Christopher Anderson...but I think that if he couldn't back up his assertions, he would have been sued.

I don't think that's true, Bliss, since he is a public figure and there is much more leeway, I think on what people can say.
He wasn't sued for his last bio of Mick, which contains similar though less detailed information. I don't think Mick wants to waste the time or the money.*

On Princess Margaret, I would believe that the Queen wasn't thrilled about her and Mick hanging out. Other than that, I don't know.


*Edited to add, I just saw the post saying they would sue. I say good for Mick, if true.

~"Love is Strong"~



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Maybe this thread should be re-titled "Mick's Character and Morals".

I've no doubt sex with beautiful younger women, spanking sessions and a bit of distance afterward are what's keeping Mick looking so good at almost 70. Since he appears to be such a smart man I also believe it is probably becoming less and less important to him. L'Wren showed up at just the right time, she is no fool.

I wonder how many Viagra type drugs the guy is consuming at his age to keep up the sex habit?

As far as the Anderson story goes, really crap they way he chooses to add the emotionally charging lies like, "while Jerry was only 30 feet away in the bedroom". Obviously he is painting over the real picture with his editor's imagination. The fact that most here can see through the smoke is pretty uplifting to me. The fact that people are reading that crap at all has me a bit worried. peace

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Maybe this thread should be re-titled "Mick's Character and Morals".

I've no doubt sex with beautiful younger women, spanking sessions and a bit of distance afterward are what's keeping Mick looking so good at almost 70. Since he appears to be such a smart man I also believe it is probably becoming less and less important to him. L'Wren showed up at just the right time, she is no fool.

I wonder how many Viagra type drugs the guy is consuming at his age to keep up the sex habit?

As far as the Anderson story goes, really crap they way he chooses to add the emotionally charging lies like, "while Jerry was only 30 feet away in the bedroom". Obviously he is painting over the real picture with his editor's imagination. The fact that most here can see through the smoke is pretty uplifting to me. The fact that people are reading that crap at all has me a bit worried. peace

But reading it doesn't necessarily legitimize it and it doesn't mean that we believe every word. Most of us know these stories and use our own common sense, judgement etc...
And none of this makes me see Jagger any differently than I did when I was 13.....he's still Mick Jagger, with all his warts.
You can discuss it, make a personal judgement without being a prude. Its just fun to discuss. Some of you are reading too much into some of us reading too much into this

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Naturalust
Maybe this thread should be re-titled "Mick's Character and Morals".

I've no doubt sex with beautiful younger women, spanking sessions and a bit of distance afterward are what's keeping Mick looking so good at almost 70. Since he appears to be such a smart man I also believe it is probably becoming less and less important to him. L'Wren showed up at just the right time, she is no fool.

I wonder how many Viagra type drugs the guy is consuming at his age to keep up the sex habit?

As far as the Anderson story goes, really crap they way he chooses to add the emotionally charging lies like, "while Jerry was only 30 feet away in the bedroom". Obviously he is painting over the real picture with his editor's imagination. The fact that most here can see through the smoke is pretty uplifting to me. The fact that people are reading that crap at all has me a bit worried. peace

But reading it doesn't necessarily legitimize it and it doesn't mean that we believe every word. Most of us know these stories and use our own common sense, judgement etc...
And none of this makes me see Jagger any differently than I did when I was 13.....he's still Mick Jagger, with all his warts.
You can discuss it, make a personal judgement without being a prude. Its just fun to discuss. Some of you are reading too much into some of us reading too much into this

Yeah you're right as usual and I expect no less from someone who is obviously pretty damn intelligent and insightful. peace

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But I am amused by the indignant reactions of Daily Mail readers after the publication of each of the passages from Andersen book.

In fairness, the Daily Mail and it's readers have absolutely cornered the market in self-righteous indignation in the UK.