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It was exactly what I was saying. It was about people who want a new stones tour knowing that Keith can't play. I am ok with this anniversary and the opening of the vaults as they do it since 3 years. Don't need a new album or a new tour, but this is only my point of view... if I have the right to have one and to give it.!
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I´m looking forward to what all the guys on this board who doubt Keith is fit to do a rhythm and blues-set say when he "rises from the ashes", LOL!
Remember, you have just READ that he can´t play, or that he hasn´t played during the last 5 years. Others have HEARD him play, i.e. from his recordings with Steve Jordan.
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I think that's a given at this point. Some shows, no big tour. The 50th Anniversary year begins in earnest in six days!!!
I know that is exactly what you were saying...that I believe is the exasperating part. No one actually knows anything but we get a thread about the Stones being together next week and some april fool's come out and immediately speculate that they can't play because of Keith. You have as much of a right to your point of you as I have a right to my sense of exasperation.
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Mick of course. Who else??
Still no excuse for saying something as stupid as a 'it looks like a farewell press conference' when not a single thing has ever eluded to such a thing. On their 50th anniversary they're going to say 'We're done! Thank you!'? Ha ha ha ha ha. Noooo. It may be about how there are going to be lots of lovely things to be bought. It's all about the money and always has been. Mick finally understands that the past is more important. So their 'moving forward' is all about the past. No need for them to say 'farewell' when release wise they're not going anywhere as far as being a 'band' that is releasing 'new' things. And what those 'new' things are is a mystery at this point.
YES! They've done so much in the last five years as a band! They've really worked hard to earn such glorious praise for "being a band" for "fifty years"! Simply astounding! It's AMAAAAAAAAAZING!
Ha ha. 50 glorious years for...three of the original members still "in" the "band" to still be alive? OK. I'll go with that.
Alright and amen!
What are you so serious! If it's over tomorow, it will be over, No tears. Stones music and others give me some good times and that' all. Now if you become constipated each time a reply doesn't please you, the good news is that you save paper. Good for earth. Thanks to you. very ecological
Ha ha. You seem a little constipated, all because someone pointed out something that sounds a bit over the top on your end.
Whutevuh. I was just merely saying what I thought... Really, think about it - why would they wait until 7-12-2012 to say 'Wal, Keith can't plaaaay anymore so we're done. Thank you! Goodbye!'? I'll be a tickle me Elmo if they do do that.
Who the hell is Ronnie Woods?
I knew a dude in High School named that. I am sure suprised to find that he seems to have replaced Ronnie Wood in the Rolling Stones! Maybe if I practice the keytar, they will let me join Flock of Seagulls.
Oh so this was his first album then:
You know, Ronnie 'Ancient weaver2' Woods, started off as Ron Woods, changed his name to Ron Wood for a while and now back again to Woods....................
I met a woman and she told me...."well baby...... well the blues ain't bad"...........
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Cheers mate
Keep On Rolling
You dont see the contradiction here? Seriously?
And who - of any of us here, me included - is in a position of authority to make a definitive statement on the health of someone they don't know and who they haven't seen perform for years, based solely on a 5 minute cameo on a poorly stringed acoustic guitar with Elvis Costello (which Costello has admitted he was to blame for).
Based on that lack of solid info, dont you think its better to avoid sweeping statements about someone being 'physically unable to play', 'suffering' or 'loves playing but cant' as if its a fact?
I dont KNOW what Keith's ability to play is like at the minute. However, as he doesnt appear to be playing a gig anytime soon and I havent bought tickets for one, its not something that overly concerns me right now. If he or the band isnt up to it - I dont want or need to see them. Its not the end of the world. But its not going to be happening soon anyway, so I wont be losing any sleep over it.
And my 'exasperation', as Doxa rightly called it, was more to do with not only the absurd levels of overanalysis on here all the time now but the notion that the Stones are going to 'celebrate' their 50th anniversary by pissing on everyone's chips and announcing a 'farewell' instead.
Sorry if that pissed you off.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-07-06 19:39 by Gazza.
All very well in theory, but the 2012 version of the Stones' target audience wouldn't recognise the blues if it jumped up and bit them on the arse.
just too fat to turn around and look?
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Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:02
Gazza, I am with aprilfool on this one.
I would want to be more positive but honestly I cant imagine Keith playing better than he did in 2007 -which was already not great.
Anyway let's see what happen and hope...
I would want to be more positive but honestly I cant imagine Keith playing better than he did in 2007 -which was already not great.
Anyway let's see what happen and hope...
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
aprilfool
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:08
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I didn't see sarcasm in Senor G's comment, but rather exasperation. We've all heard the 'Keith can't play' stuff for eons. Why trott it out again in a thread that simply purports to say the band will all be together to 'observe' their anniversary next week. It just doesn't serve any purpose.
It was exactly what I was saying. It was about people who want a new stones tour knowing that Keith can't play. I am ok with this anniversary and the opening of the vaults as they do it since 3 years. Don't need a new album or a new tour, but this is only my point of view... if I have the right to have one and to give it.!
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
john nicholls
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:13
50 glorious years. What a band!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Nicholls
John Nicholls
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
kleermaker
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:20
Who cares about Keith's playing. It's all over now. No big tour anymore. So what.
It would be great to see them all together, including Mick T. and Bill. A great reunion.
And of course that great official boot from the 1972 tour!
It would be great to see them all together, including Mick T. and Bill. A great reunion.
And of course that great official boot from the 1972 tour!
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:25
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kleermaker
Who cares about Keith's playing. It's all over now. No big tour anymore. So what.
It would be great to see them all together, including Mick T. and Bill. A great reunion.
And of course that great official boot from the 1972 tour!
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Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
dimrstone
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:40
That's great!! I will be in London from Thursday for Hard Rock Calling!!
It will be awesome if I am able to meet the lads
It will be awesome if I am able to meet the lads
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:49
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aprilfool
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I didn't see sarcasm in Senor G's comment, but rather exasperation. We've all heard the 'Keith can't play' stuff for eons. Why trott it out again in a thread that simply purports to say the band will all be together to 'observe' their anniversary next week. It just doesn't serve any purpose.
It was exactly what I was saying. It was about people who want a new stones tour knowing that Keith can't play. I am ok with this anniversary and the opening of the vaults as they do it since 3 years. Don't need a new album or a new tour, but this is only my point of view... if I have the right to have one and to give it.!
I´m looking forward to what all the guys on this board who doubt Keith is fit to do a rhythm and blues-set say when he "rises from the ashes", LOL!
Remember, you have just READ that he can´t play, or that he hasn´t played during the last 5 years. Others have HEARD him play, i.e. from his recordings with Steve Jordan.
Let´s see what the man has to offer us, before we jump to conclusions, all right?
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Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
andrewt
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:51
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DandelionPowderman
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kleermaker
Who cares about Keith's playing. It's all over now. No big tour anymore. So what.
It would be great to see them all together, including Mick T. and Bill. A great reunion.
And of course that great official boot from the 1972 tour!
Sources?
I think that's a given at this point. Some shows, no big tour. The 50th Anniversary year begins in earnest in six days!!!
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
treaclefingers
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:54
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aprilfool
Quote
I didn't see sarcasm in Senor G's comment, but rather exasperation. We've all heard the 'Keith can't play' stuff for eons. Why trott it out again in a thread that simply purports to say the band will all be together to 'observe' their anniversary next week. It just doesn't serve any purpose.
It was exactly what I was saying. It was about people who want a new stones tour knowing that Keith can't play. I am ok with this anniversary and the opening of the vaults as they do it since 3 years. Don't need a new album or a new tour, but this is only my point of view... if I have the right to have one and to give it.!
I know that is exactly what you were saying...that I believe is the exasperating part. No one actually knows anything but we get a thread about the Stones being together next week and some april fool's come out and immediately speculate that they can't play because of Keith. You have as much of a right to your point of you as I have a right to my sense of exasperation.
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Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
tomcasagranda
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:57
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Irix
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Doxa
In hindsight everything makes sense, right? I mean, Jagger was alraedy last year talking about that exact date, and that of having done a research for that. Being Jagger - we should have known - he won't do things like that just for fun or curiosity. He had something in his mind going on. It was also the time he talked about lots of "lovely things" to come.
Anyway, in the Stones universe - as it is reaching its 50th Anniversary - there seems to be two co-existing realms. One is that of 'archive project' that seem to go steadily forward - bootlegs, deluxe albums, movies, books, documentaries - and that's a topic Jagger chooses only to talk about. Then there is the realm of The Rolling Stones recording/live performances project, of which we hae heard some rumours, guesses, hopes, etc. from Keith, Ronnie, and Charlie, but NOTHING from Mick.
I am with the Jagger camp here: there should be archive recordings, albeit issued on CD. There should also be deluxe editions of albums such as Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, and Goats Head soup.
I am none to keen on a book of Stones photos and memorabilia, as it is the music that matters not the message, unlike Bob Dylan.
To me it looks like that the 'realm one' is a firm thing, and its course had been decided upon ages ago, but the 'realm two' sounds like a process that is ongoing insecure business, and - I assume - there had been some troubles along the way in making it work. Let's see if in next thursday these two realms converge a bit each other.
- Doxa
Very good analysis
Opening the wine cellar seems to be a safer business than building a new grapevine under poor weather- and environmental conditions (realm 1 vs. 2).
But sometime you must build a new grapevine to fill up the wine cellar.
Let's hope they dare to go out even when a crossfire hurricane is out there ...
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
drbryant
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:57
Holy crap. I'll be in London, arriving Thursday night at 19:00. Perhaps too late to crash the party, though . . . . .
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
Marianella
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Date: July 6, 2012 17:58
I still would like NEW tunes OH YAH
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
kleermaker
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Date: July 6, 2012 18:02
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DandelionPowderman
Quote
kleermaker
Who cares about Keith's playing. It's all over now. No big tour anymore. So what.
It would be great to see them all together, including Mick T. and Bill. A great reunion.
And of course that great official boot from the 1972 tour!
Sources?
Mick of course. Who else??
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: July 6, 2012 18:02
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aprilfool
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I didn't see sarcasm in Senor G's comment, but rather exasperation. We've all heard the 'Keith can't play' stuff for eons. Why trott it out again in a thread that simply purports to say the band will all be together to 'observe' their anniversary next week. It just doesn't serve any purpose.
It was exactly what I was saying. It was about people who want a new stones tour knowing that Keith can't play. I am ok with this anniversary and the opening of the vaults as they do it since 3 years. Don't need a new album or a new tour, but this is only my point of view... if I have the right to have one and to give it.!
Still no excuse for saying something as stupid as a 'it looks like a farewell press conference' when not a single thing has ever eluded to such a thing. On their 50th anniversary they're going to say 'We're done! Thank you!'? Ha ha ha ha ha. Noooo. It may be about how there are going to be lots of lovely things to be bought. It's all about the money and always has been. Mick finally understands that the past is more important. So their 'moving forward' is all about the past. No need for them to say 'farewell' when release wise they're not going anywhere as far as being a 'band' that is releasing 'new' things. And what those 'new' things are is a mystery at this point.
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: July 6, 2012 18:04
Quote
john nicholls
50 glorious years. What a band!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Nicholls
YES! They've done so much in the last five years as a band! They've really worked hard to earn such glorious praise for "being a band" for "fifty years"! Simply astounding! It's AMAAAAAAAAAZING!
Ha ha. 50 glorious years for...three of the original members still "in" the "band" to still be alive? OK. I'll go with that.
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
drbryant
()
Date: July 6, 2012 18:14
Watching some of the Checkerboard Lounge video. You know, at their age, they could take their show on the road, just play old blues numbers (which they wouldn't even have to rehearse) and it would be the greatest Stones show since the 72/73 tours.
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
Beast
()
Date: July 6, 2012 18:18
Quote
DandelionPowderman
I´m looking forward to what all the guys on this board who doubt Keith is fit to do a rhythm and blues-set say when he "rises from the ashes", LOL!
Remember, you have just READ that he can´t play, or that he hasn´t played during the last 5 years. Others have HEARD him play, i.e. from his recordings with Steve Jordan.
Let´s see what the man has to offer us, before we jump to conclusions, all right?
Alright and amen!
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
aprilfool
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Date: July 6, 2012 18:23
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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aprilfool
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I didn't see sarcasm in Senor G's comment, but rather exasperation. We've all heard the 'Keith can't play' stuff for eons. Why trott it out again in a thread that simply purports to say the band will all be together to 'observe' their anniversary next week. It just doesn't serve any purpose.
It was exactly what I was saying. It was about people who want a new stones tour knowing that Keith can't play. I am ok with this anniversary and the opening of the vaults as they do it since 3 years. Don't need a new album or a new tour, but this is only my point of view... if I have the right to have one and to give it.!
Still no excuse for saying something as stupid as a 'it looks like a farewell press conference' when not a single thing has ever eluded to such a thing. On their 50th anniversary they're going to say 'We're done! Thank you!'? Ha ha ha ha ha. Noooo. It may be about how there are going to be lots of lovely things to be bought. It's all about the money and always has been. Mick finally understands that the past is more important. So their 'moving forward' is all about the past. No need for them to say 'farewell' when release wise they're not going anywhere as far as being a 'band' that is releasing 'new' things. And what those 'new' things are is a mystery at this point.
What are you so serious! If it's over tomorow, it will be over, No tears. Stones music and others give me some good times and that' all. Now if you become constipated each time a reply doesn't please you, the good news is that you save paper. Good for earth. Thanks to you. very ecological
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: July 6, 2012 18:26
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aprilfool
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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aprilfool
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I didn't see sarcasm in Senor G's comment, but rather exasperation. We've all heard the 'Keith can't play' stuff for eons. Why trott it out again in a thread that simply purports to say the band will all be together to 'observe' their anniversary next week. It just doesn't serve any purpose.
It was exactly what I was saying. It was about people who want a new stones tour knowing that Keith can't play. I am ok with this anniversary and the opening of the vaults as they do it since 3 years. Don't need a new album or a new tour, but this is only my point of view... if I have the right to have one and to give it.!
Still no excuse for saying something as stupid as a 'it looks like a farewell press conference' when not a single thing has ever eluded to such a thing. On their 50th anniversary they're going to say 'We're done! Thank you!'? Ha ha ha ha ha. Noooo. It may be about how there are going to be lots of lovely things to be bought. It's all about the money and always has been. Mick finally understands that the past is more important. So their 'moving forward' is all about the past. No need for them to say 'farewell' when release wise they're not going anywhere as far as being a 'band' that is releasing 'new' things. And what those 'new' things are is a mystery at this point.
What are you so serious! If it's over tomorow, it will be over, No tears. Stones music and others give me some good times and that' all. Now if you become constipated each time a reply doesn't please you, the good news is that you save paper. Good for earth. Thanks to you. very ecological
Ha ha. You seem a little constipated, all because someone pointed out something that sounds a bit over the top on your end.
Whutevuh. I was just merely saying what I thought... Really, think about it - why would they wait until 7-12-2012 to say 'Wal, Keith can't plaaaay anymore so we're done. Thank you! Goodbye!'? I'll be a tickle me Elmo if they do do that.
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
tkl7
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Date: July 6, 2012 18:27
Just read the article - Who is Ron Woods?
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: July 6, 2012 18:30
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tkl7
Just read the article - Who is Ron Woods?
Who the hell is Ronnie Woods?
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:18
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Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
tkl7
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:18
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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tkl7
Just read the article - Who is Ron Woods?
Who the hell is Ronnie Woods?
I knew a dude in High School named that. I am sure suprised to find that he seems to have replaced Ronnie Wood in the Rolling Stones! Maybe if I practice the keytar, they will let me join Flock of Seagulls.
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:22
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tkl7
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WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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tkl7
Just read the article - Who is Ron Woods?
Who the hell is Ronnie Woods?
I knew a dude in High School named that. I am sure suprised to find that he seems to have replaced Ronnie Wood in the Rolling Stones! Maybe if I practice the keytar, they will let me join Flock of Seagulls.
Oh so this was his first album then:
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
EddieByword
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:27
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tkl7
Just read the article - Who is Ron Woods?
You know, Ronnie 'Ancient weaver2' Woods, started off as Ron Woods, changed his name to Ron Wood for a while and now back again to Woods....................
I met a woman and she told me...."well baby...... well the blues ain't bad"...........
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Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:28
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john nicholls
50 glorious years. What a band!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers mateKeep On Rolling
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:35
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aprilfool
Sorry Gazza, I am surely wrong when I talk about farewell press conference but why all these people would like to see a person suffuring when he plays only some minutes. Last show was 5 years ago... Do you really think keith could play without playing during all these 5 years. There is no healing for arthritis. (ok Gazza, come on I am not a doctor too). Until now, I was always pleased to read your interventions but why to be sarcastic, it was only my point of view. Tell me if next time i should have to ask an authorization before to comment something.
You dont see the contradiction here? Seriously?
And who - of any of us here, me included - is in a position of authority to make a definitive statement on the health of someone they don't know and who they haven't seen perform for years, based solely on a 5 minute cameo on a poorly stringed acoustic guitar with Elvis Costello (which Costello has admitted he was to blame for).
Based on that lack of solid info, dont you think its better to avoid sweeping statements about someone being 'physically unable to play', 'suffering' or 'loves playing but cant' as if its a fact?
I dont KNOW what Keith's ability to play is like at the minute. However, as he doesnt appear to be playing a gig anytime soon and I havent bought tickets for one, its not something that overly concerns me right now. If he or the band isnt up to it - I dont want or need to see them. Its not the end of the world. But its not going to be happening soon anyway, so I wont be losing any sleep over it.
And my 'exasperation', as Doxa rightly called it, was more to do with not only the absurd levels of overanalysis on here all the time now but the notion that the Stones are going to 'celebrate' their 50th anniversary by pissing on everyone's chips and announcing a 'farewell' instead.
Sorry if that pissed you off.
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Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
Gazza
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:37
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drbryant
Watching some of the Checkerboard Lounge video. You know, at their age, they could take their show on the road, just play old blues numbers (which they wouldn't even have to rehearse) and it would be the greatest Stones show since the 72/73 tours.
All very well in theory, but the 2012 version of the Stones' target audience wouldn't recognise the blues if it jumped up and bit them on the arse.
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
StonesTod
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:40
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Gazza
All very well in theory, but the 2012 version of the Stones' target audience wouldn't recognise the blues if it jumped up and bit them on the arse.
just too fat to turn around and look?
Re: Stones to appear in London on July 12
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
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Date: July 6, 2012 19:42
Just curious what will happen...
Some kind of a simple gathering celebrating somehow might be possible,
hopefully with interesting news and informations as well.
Anyway...have a great party,guys.
Some kind of a simple gathering celebrating somehow might be possible,
hopefully with interesting news and informations as well.
Anyway...have a great party,guys.
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