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OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 1, 2012 01:46

I knew this existed from the album in my big sister's record collection, but what a shocker when I watched it today and saw what great music was going on in 1971. The Stones had just ripped apart the Marquee Club in London and George Harrison was up to this. Just blown away by it all.

Leon Russell took JJF to a place the Stones probably never will when he threw Youngblood in the middle. Damn that boy has it goin' on.

To most of you this is probably old hat, but to me it made me rather ecstatic for the quality of the performances and certainly missing George Harrison. It must have been the first large rock concert for a cause.

1971 was a good year unless you happened to be in Bangladesh or Vietman. peace







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Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 1, 2012 01:54

GH was also doing this in 1971.





That's Harrison playing the slide solo on the track, in addition to being the producer. That's also Leon Russell on piano. Harrison had to leave before it was finished to go produce, that's right, the Concert for Bangladesh, so Todd Rundgren finished the final mix, and also took over as producer for the rest of the album the song was included on (Straight Up).

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 1, 2012 02:00




Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: July 1, 2012 02:32

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Naturalust


Leon Russell took Satisfaction to a place the Stones probably never will when he threw Youngblood in the middle. Damn that boy has it goin' on.

Well, that place that you say Leon took "Satisfaction" to is actually called "Jumpin' Jack Flash..."

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: July 1, 2012 02:33

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Leon Russell took Satisfaction to a place the Stones probably never will when he threw Youngblood in the middle. Damn that boy has it goin' on.

Well, that place that you say Leon took "Satisfaction" to is actually called "Jumpin' Jack Flash..."

don't be so picky...he identified a stones warhorse...close enough...let's move on...



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Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: noughties ()
Date: July 1, 2012 03:03

- But after the Bangla Dech concert, George Harrison was nothing... I`ve watched the bio, and saw him when he performed reggae versions in builder trousers...

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 1, 2012 03:11

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Leon Russell took Satisfaction to a place the Stones probably never will when he threw Youngblood in the middle. Damn that boy has it goin' on.

Well, that place that you say Leon took "Satisfaction" to is actually called "Jumpin' Jack Flash..."

don't be so picky...he identified a stones warhorse...close enough...let's move on...

Damn that was a pretty strange screw up on my part since I know those songs pretty well. It might just be the beer, thanks for gettin the idea anyway...

I guess was just gettin into the story of that tune Youngblood when he came home and his "old lady" was wantin to get some.....Satisfaction was all I could think about.

Now I know where this great guitar intro version of It Don't Come Easy comes from at least. eye rolling smiley

May the Stones get young before they get old one more time. Maybe Youngblood can help. smoking smiley peace

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 1, 2012 03:22

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Naturalust
May the Stones get young before they get old one more time. Maybe Youngblood can help. smoking smiley peace

Seems to help Mick and Woodie.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 1, 2012 03:50

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May the Stones get young before they get old one more time. Maybe Youngblood can help. smoking smiley peace

Seems to help Mick and Woodie.

lol, indeed.

I wonder what exactly Leon Russel and his old lady's idea of The Good Thing back then was? Stones music?, Keith's gardener? Maybe a jack of heroin....I mean wtf was the JJF reference to, that he could pull it off like that as a conclusion to the Youngblood story? This could be deeper than I imagined.

George sure had everyone's telephone number.

Much praise to Jim Keltner for his friggin amazing drumming throughout this film.

With all those guitars and musicians on stage I wonder how many separate tracks they recorded? Seems to me from what I'm watching and hearing, they could get alot of different mixes from those tracks. In addition it was probably put out very quickly to get income for the project. Just thinkin... peace

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: July 1, 2012 04:06

I heard this because of my elder sister too....'76 or '77 - fantastic stuff.........she always loved that line "She said this right here".......7.45





I met a woman and she told me...."well baby...... well the blues ain't bad"...........



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Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: July 1, 2012 04:25

The Bangla Desh DVD includes a documentary about the making of the concert.

During the concert, Phil Spector was in the recording truck and couldn't see anything. When Billy Preston jumped up and starting dancing at the end of "That's The Way God Planned It," suddenly Phil didn't hear the organ playing and he flipped out because he thought the mic had gone out.

The show was in August and the album was in the stores in time for Christmas.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: DaveG ()
Date: July 1, 2012 04:44

It is truly one of the great moments in rock history. And, I believe it was the first benefit concert of its kind. George was a visionary, wanted to help some desperate people, and made it happen. It was within the year following the Beatles' break-up, so his "equity" as a Beatle was still very high. That is one concert I wish I had been able to attend. It was interesting to read Eric Clapton's autobiography and learn that he was really strung out at the time and kind of limped through the whole thing, remembering precious little of it. But, what a tremendous show.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: July 1, 2012 05:19

With Paul and Ringo having toured regularly since 1989, it's easy to forget that there was a 23-year period (1966-1989) when seeing a Beatle (let alone two) was a very rare thing. Lennon made only a handful of solo appearances and never toured. The same was true for Ringo, at least prior to his doing his first solo tour in '89. Harrison only toured twice (America in '74 and Japan in '91), and despite Macca's reputation as the Beatle who most enjoyed live performance, Wings only managed to do one major world tour, and played only 143 shows, in their entire 10-year existence as a band.



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Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 1, 2012 09:50

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Naturalust
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May the Stones get young before they get old one more time. Maybe Youngblood can help. smoking smiley peace

Seems to help Mick and Woodie.

lol, indeed.

I wonder what exactly Leon Russel and his old lady's idea of The Good Thing back then was? Stones music?, Keith's gardener? Maybe a jack of heroin....I mean wtf was the JJF reference to, that he could pull it off like that as a conclusion to the Youngblood story? This could be deeper than I imagined.

George sure had everyone's telephone number.

Much praise to Jim Keltner for his friggin amazing drumming throughout this film.

With all those guitars and musicians on stage I wonder how many separate tracks they recorded? Seems to me from what I'm watching and hearing, they could get alot of different mixes from those tracks. In addition it was probably put out very quickly to get income for the project. Just thinkin... peace

It was actually Ravi Shankar's idea to do the benefit, and he went to George about it. And being a devotee of RS, GH thought he had the pull to draw more people to the cause, and that's what inspired him to put it together.

Regarding all the musicians onstage, there has been talk on this board of too many notes, but in such a celerated clusterf*uck of guitars on one stage, there are times when there gets to be, well, too many strings. I mean, even if they recorded it in 24-track, as they probably did by that time, where do you begin to contemplate the separation of alternate mixes? You'd pull so much hair out, that, in the end, you would look like a friggin' Hare Krishna!

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: July 1, 2012 16:46

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EddieByword
I heard this because of my elder sister too....'76 or '77 - fantastic stuff.........she always loved that line "She said this right here".......7.45




Love Leon. I was a serious piano student back then so I really paid attention to the piano rockers. All my friends were into Elton, of course, nobody seemed to know much about Leon Russell. Such a huge talent, not to mention the coolest looking dude on the planet, especially in that top hat with the Mad Dogs and Englishmen tour. Sigh.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: July 1, 2012 17:43

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stonesnow
GH was also doing this in 1971.





That's Harrison playing the slide solo on the track, in addition to being the producer. That's also Leon Russell on piano. Harrison had to leave before it was finished to go produce, that's right, the Concert for Bangladesh, so Todd Rundgren finished the final mix, and also took over as producer for the rest of the album the song was included on (Straight Up).

The solo is actually Pete Ham and George Harrison, playing twin lead guitars in unison .... or so I have heard. Badfinger's best track. Probably a better "Beatles" single than anything the Beatles themselves could have come up with at that point.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 1, 2012 20:39

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May the Stones get young before they get old one more time. Maybe Youngblood can help. smoking smiley peace

Seems to help Mick and Woodie.

lol, indeed.

I wonder what exactly Leon Russel and his old lady's idea of The Good Thing back then was? Stones music?, Keith's gardener? Maybe a jack of heroin....I mean wtf was the JJF reference to, that he could pull it off like that as a conclusion to the Youngblood story? This could be deeper than I imagined.

George sure had everyone's telephone number.

Much praise to Jim Keltner for his friggin amazing drumming throughout this film.

With all those guitars and musicians on stage I wonder how many separate tracks they recorded? Seems to me from what I'm watching and hearing, they could get alot of different mixes from those tracks. In addition it was probably put out very quickly to get income for the project. Just thinkin... peace

It was actually Ravi Shankar's idea to do the benefit, and he went to George about it. And being a devotee of RS, GH thought he had the pull to draw more people to the cause, and that's what inspired him to put it together.

Regarding all the musicians onstage, there has been talk on this board of too many notes, but in such a celerated clusterf*uck of guitars on one stage, there are times when there gets to be, well, too many strings. I mean, even if they recorded it in 24-track, as they probably did by that time, where do you begin to contemplate the separation of alternate mixes? You'd pull so much hair out, that, in the end, you would look like a friggin' Hare Krishna!

My thoughts exactly. I guess you just find a guitar that was in tune with George and go from there. I curious who mixed and produced the record, George?

I am still thinking about the wonderful "Just like a Woman" that Dylan pulled off that night. After Blowin in the Wind anything would have been good but that was GREAT. NOW I understand the Dylan attraction, he was a wordsmith beyond compare.

Here is a sweet and soulful version of Come into My Kitchen by Leon. No problem mixing this one, the sound is quite good. Stuff like this makes me feel and that is not an easy thing for me today. It don't get much better, I always thought the Stones would benefit from this guys talents.

This one's for Furry....




Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 1, 2012 21:32

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tatters
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stonesnow
GH was also doing this in 1971.





That's Harrison playing the slide solo on the track, in addition to being the producer. That's also Leon Russell on piano. Harrison had to leave before it was finished to go produce, that's right, the Concert for Bangladesh, so Todd Rundgren finished the final mix, and also took over as producer for the rest of the album the song was included on (Straight Up).

The solo is actually Pete Ham and George Harrison, playing twin lead guitars in unison .... or so I have heard. Badfinger's best track. Probably a better "Beatles" single than anything the Beatles themselves could have come up with at that point.

Yes, you're right, Pete and George--but it's mainly George's influence, as that's the only time a slide quite like that appeared in a Badfinger song.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: July 1, 2012 21:44

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May the Stones get young before they get old one more time. Maybe Youngblood can help. smoking smiley peace

Seems to help Mick and Woodie.

lol, indeed.

I wonder what exactly Leon Russel and his old lady's idea of The Good Thing back then was? Stones music?, Keith's gardener? Maybe a jack of heroin....I mean wtf was the JJF reference to, that he could pull it off like that as a conclusion to the Youngblood story? This could be deeper than I imagined.

George sure had everyone's telephone number.

Much praise to Jim Keltner for his friggin amazing drumming throughout this film.

With all those guitars and musicians on stage I wonder how many separate tracks they recorded? Seems to me from what I'm watching and hearing, they could get alot of different mixes from those tracks. In addition it was probably put out very quickly to get income for the project. Just thinkin... peace

It was actually Ravi Shankar's idea to do the benefit, and he went to George about it. And being a devotee of RS, GH thought he had the pull to draw more people to the cause, and that's what inspired him to put it together.

Regarding all the musicians onstage, there has been talk on this board of too many notes, but in such a celerated clusterf*uck of guitars on one stage, there are times when there gets to be, well, too many strings. I mean, even if they recorded it in 24-track, as they probably did by that time, where do you begin to contemplate the separation of alternate mixes? You'd pull so much hair out, that, in the end, you would look like a friggin' Hare Krishna!

My thoughts exactly. I guess you just find a guitar that was in tune with George and go from there. I curious who mixed and produced the record, George?

I am still thinking about the wonderful "Just like a Woman" that Dylan pulled off that night. After Blowin in the Wind anything would have been good but that was GREAT. NOW I understand the Dylan attraction, he was a wordsmith beyond compare.

Here is a sweet and soulful version of Come into My Kitchen by Leon. No problem mixing this one, the sound is quite good. Stuff like this makes me feel and that is not an easy thing for me today. It don't get much better, I always thought the Stones would benefit from this guys talents.

This one's for Furry....



The mixing and production was actually done by Phil Spector. They also did 2 concerts--one at 2 p.m. and another at 8 p.m., so the final version probably has a blend of the two. In the recent Living in the Material World Harrison doc, Spector tells the story of what a nightmare the mixing was, because of the micing problems. They only had 3 hours to mic the band, so in Spector's words the mics were all over the place. And when the audience came in, they didn't know how to mic the audience. Spector said of the project: "It took 4 hours to record the 2 concerts and 6 months to mix." I guess it makes sense, from a Phil Spector perspective, to have all those musicians up there--you know, Spector's famous wall of sound approach.

It was estimated that the concert would raise $250,000, so it was thought that if it were recorded and filmed an album would sell 1 or 2 million and a film would help raise more as well. It turned out to be a Grammy-winning album at the time.

Dylan was almost a no-show. Spector himself had to actually go to Dylan's apartment and drag him there at the last minute.

It was also supposed to have been a Beatles reunion. Harrison invited Lennon and McCartney, but they backed out and only Ringo showed.

Recognize the bearded bass player? That's Klaus Voormann, a friend of the Beatles from their Hamburg days--who also designed the cover of the Revolver album and played on Lennon's first solo album Plastic Ono Band.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 2, 2012 15:58

Nice info Stonesnow, you are amazing. Looked like Carl Radle was up there too at some point. But Voorman was playing well that day indeed.

Two shows? wow.

Who was the slightly out of place guitar player for Leon Russell?. Alvin Lee? Sound like the same style playing as 10 Years After's "Goin' Home" in any case.

A shame Lennon and McCartney backed out, Ringo likely picked up some drum technique from Keltner, what a monster groove master that guy was. peace

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: July 2, 2012 16:12

The other lead was Don Preston, part of Leon's touring band. He was in the choir, but would switch to lead guitar during Leon's set. There were also several songs done, but not released: Hear Me Lord (one of my fav's from ATMP and I wish the deluxe version had this one!), and Mr. Tambourine Man, which is on the album but not in the film. If you enjoy this movie I would highly recommend getting the deluxe box set. It is beautifully packaged, with glossy photos, and memorabilia. And the remaster is spectacular.
More back ground here for you as well. Firstly, Ringo didn't learn a thing from Keltner. Keltner was an avid Ringo fan and emulated him, so much so, he was in heavy demand by John and George on their solo releases. In many interviews Keltner has expressed his thanks to Ringo for the friendship and drumming partnership. Lennon was invited and planned on attending, but he assumed that Yoko would be joining him, and George called Lennon the day before and informed him Yoko would not be performing. Lennon was furious and refused to go. McCartney was invited, and immediately refused because of the on-going court case with the other Fabs.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: July 2, 2012 16:21

Also Voorman played on several of Harrison's solo albums, ATMP, Living in a Material World, and Concerts... He also played on Lennon's Live Peace Toronto, Rock and Roll, and Walls and Bridges. Voorman also did the covers for all three of the Anthology releases, and received a grammy for the cover of Revolver. I really like his art work, and he is quite talented. If you are into his stuff check out his website where you can buy numbered prints. Some are stunning! He also played bass with Mannfred Mann from 1966-69. He was part of the original group that hung with The Beatles in Hamburg and remained/s friends with all four of the Fab. He had a recent CD, relatively good, A Sideman's Journey, with lots of guests on it including McCartney doing Fat's Domino. Here is a run down of all the Beatles solo stuff he played on:

With The Plastic Ono Band:
Cold Turkey [1969 non-album single]
Live Peace in Toronto 1969 [1969]
Instant Karma! (We All Shine On) [1970 non-album single]
John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band [1970]
Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band [1970]

With John Lennon:
Power to the People [1971 non-album single]
Imagine [1971]
Happy Xmas (War Is Over) [1971 non-album single]
Some Time in New York City [1972]
Walls and Bridges [1974]
Rock 'n' Roll [1975]

With George Harrison:
All Things Must Pass [1970]
Bangla Desh [1971 non-album single]
The Concert for Bangla Desh [1971]
Living in the Material World [1973]
Dark Horse [1974]
Extra Texture (Read All About It) [1975]

With Ringo Starr:
Sentimental Journey [1970; arrangement on "I'm a Fool to Care"]
It Don't Come Easy [1971 non-album single]
Back Off Boogaloo [1972 non-album single]
Ringo [1973]
Goodnight Vienna [1974]
Ringo's Rotogravure [1976]

He was quite a prolific studio session player as well and even plays on Lou Reeds Transformer.



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Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 2, 2012 19:37

whitem8 I am diggin' all the information you have provided about this spectacular event! Very cool. I'm eatin' it up.

Major corrections on my first impressions about Ringo for sure. Keltner was always the man for me in later years, your history is bringing me back before my musical inspirations and knowledge and I appreciate that.

Finally , it was George's event, I thing John Lennon was a bit of a brat for taking it personal when George told him Yoko would not be performing. Who but beautiful George could get away with telling John such a thing? Big smiles, sorry Yoko. Much thanks. peace

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: July 2, 2012 20:22

Yes, it was silly that Lennon thought that Yoko would be included, but also this shows the level of his commitment to her. I also think Lennon was probably hurt, especially since all the time him and George were spending with each other appearing live and recording Imagine. It is a shame though, as it would have been fascinating to see what would have come out of a Lennon and McCartney participation. If you are into more interesting stuff from this period you might want to search out Gimme Some Truth a great documentary about the making of Imagine. It is out of print but Amazon has some copies for sale used. It is worth it. Some great moments with George H as well, especially them working on How Do You Sleep.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 2, 2012 21:59

Sidetracked a bit by the interest in Badfinger and found this documentary about them. Pretty good stuff. peace




Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: July 3, 2012 06:35

Great find Naturalist! Wonderful and I really enjoyed watching it. What a sad story. So sad and such a waste. And what a great and underrated group.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 3, 2012 07:39

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Great find Naturalist! Wonderful and I really enjoyed watching it. What a sad story. So sad and such a waste. And what a great and underrated group.

Yes such a tragic story. They seemed to be a bit too distracted my their purity of musical purpose and intent to have much sense about business. The Baby Blue version they perform live on the Kenny Rogers show before a very country and uptight audience (see YouTube) really shows off just how good these guys were at one time.

No fancy horn section or hired guns , just good playing, good singing and good songwriting. peace



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Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: July 3, 2012 14:29




Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: Des ()
Date: July 3, 2012 18:47

An old Rolling Stone magazine article had an intersting bit on Dylan playing the show.

Seems him and George were standing on the arena floor a couple of days before the show and Geoarge asked if Dylan would play. Dylan declained saying he was not a concert performer. George was shocked thinking Dylan had the full concert experience which he did not to that point. Dylan said George was the big star. To which George replied he had never talked to a croud through a mike before. They are now both amazed at each others persecption of their lack of concert experience. the next day George asks again and is declined. However during the show as the movie shows and now makes more sence George is well into the show and he spots Dylan pacing in the wings with a guitar. George not even sure he was there takes the moment to suddenly pronounce, ladies and gentlemen, Bob Dylan to which Bob is trapped and walks out. This is why the dylan songs musicaly suck, the band had to wing it.

I believe this concert may have been predated by the no-Nukes benifit show, not sure if someone wants to reaserch.

Re: OT- The Concert for Bangladesh in full
Posted by: GOO ()
Date: July 3, 2012 18:54

No nukes was way later

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