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Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: June 30, 2012 01:37

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Now I understand why Country Joe said to the Woodstock crowd : "Gimme an F!!!"
He was trying to tune his guitar! grinning smiley

hahahaha! grinning smiley

Anyway, I was thinking of Ladies and Gentlemen, I think it's right after Gimme Shelter, Mick says "We're just gonna t-t-tune up." Is Keith really checking it with the piano?

Jimi Hendrix though, I read somewhere he could tune and play by ear, but I really doubt any of the Stones could.

Keith is probably looking at some electronic tuner interface which is pre-calibrated with the piano before the show.

As far as Hendrix is concerned, he has plenty of out of tune recordings but also plenty where it is obviously a bit out and he re-tunes mid-song or even finishes the song by bending the out of tune notes up to pitch as he is playing. As is commonly known by all guitarists who have tried to learn his songs, he tuned all his guitars 1/2 step below standard pitch. Either to provide less string tension or because it resulted in better keys for his voice. With a three piece band and loud enough bass guitar he was in perfect control with his relative pitch. Love the guy. peace

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: mitchflorida1 ()
Date: June 30, 2012 09:25

One string at a time.


Can anyone tune all 6 six strings at the same time? If so , please post how you do it.

I am not interested in those who tune one at a time.

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Date: July 2, 2012 02:44

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What did they tune to at Hyde Park?

They TRIED tuning to a harmonica. You can see pictures of Keith, stoned out of his mind, desperately trying to tune up grinning smiley

No, they DID tune to a harmonica. There was no try. It just didn't work very well.

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Date: July 2, 2012 02:47

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Pro guitarists in the USA today usually have a tuner built into their pedalboard, attached to their mic stand or clipped onto their guitars, in addition to a tech backstage with a strobe tuner.

I feel bad for the pro guitarists in other countries who don't have that luxury.


I didn't mean to assume or imply that was the case, just this USA scene is all I'm knowledgeable about.

My current favorite tuner is a Fishman FT-1 , clamp on style. The one where the whole face of the tuner turns green when the note is on, great for dark venues. In addition it has several instrument modes including one for Ukelele, an instrument that seems to suffer when the tuning isn't spot on, in my hands anyway. I think it was $35USD, pretty amazing. Certainly this is one area that digital technology has helped us in leaps and bounds. peace

The tuners that attach to a guitar, like the ones for a acousitc guitar, suck. Either by ear or a pedal tuner. There are lots of tuners out there.

One does not tune all 6 strings at once though - they'd never be in tune. In fact, when replacing strings on a guitar you do one string at a time. You're not supposed to release all the strings at once. It's all about the tension.

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: andrewm ()
Date: July 2, 2012 03:44

Our dial tone and ring tone here in Canada are pretty much bang on the B note.

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: July 2, 2012 14:48

I was always envious of Rory Gallagher's amazing ear for pitch.

The ease with which he'd tweek the tuning mid song was jaw dropping.

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: July 2, 2012 15:22

<<<< They turn those knobs

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: July 2, 2012 15:57

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One string at a time.


Can anyone tune all 6 six strings at the same time? If so , please post how you do it.

I am not interested in those who tune one at a time.









if you grow yourself some more hands you can tune all strings at the same time smoking smiley

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 3, 2012 01:56

Some midi guitars are self tuned and guitar players like the cat I saw with David Bowie in the mid-nineties have rigs which insure perfect pitch on all six strings. So yes there is a way to do all 6 strings at once.

Other companies have made self tuning guitars which have little servo motors on the tuning pegs and automaticaly tune the guitar this way when triggered to do so.

I tend to find that most guitars, even ones that are set up and intonated perfectly have little nuances, especially in the transition from wound to plain strings and it still requires a human brain to make the thing play properly in tune. Technology isn't there yet. peace

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: July 3, 2012 03:04

And don't forget the tune forks .................




Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: July 3, 2012 13:17

Excellent! thumbs up
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Now I understand why Country Joe said to the Woodstock crowd : "Gimme an F!!!"
He was trying to tune his guitar! grinning smiley

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: Britney ()
Date: July 3, 2012 14:15

The last thirty years or so roadies tune their guitars.

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Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: mr_dja ()
Date: July 3, 2012 15:34

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Some midi guitars are self tuned and guitar players like the cat I saw with David Bowie in the mid-nineties have rigs which insure perfect pitch on all six strings. So yes there is a way to do all 6 strings at once.

Other companies have made self tuning guitars which have little servo motors on the tuning pegs and automaticaly tune the guitar this way when triggered to do so.

I tend to find that most guitars, even ones that are set up and intonated perfectly have little nuances, especially in the transition from wound to plain strings and it still requires a human brain to make the thing play properly in tune. Technology isn't there yet. peace

Even if the open string is in tune... Add to that the fact that many guitars are set up to be in tune when the string hits the fret not when it hits the fretboard. Since the frets can vary in height (I'd guess 1/32" at lowest - 1/8" at highest) if you push the string down to the fretboard, you've just managed to bend (and stretch) the string sharp even though you're technically playing at the right fret.

Peace,
Mr DJA

Re: How do they tune their guitars?
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: July 3, 2012 19:15

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Some midi guitars are self tuned and guitar players like the cat I saw with David Bowie in the mid-nineties have rigs which insure perfect pitch on all six strings. So yes there is a way to do all 6 strings at once.

Other companies have made self tuning guitars which have little servo motors on the tuning pegs and automaticaly tune the guitar this way when triggered to do so.

I tend to find that most guitars, even ones that are set up and intonated perfectly have little nuances, especially in the transition from wound to plain strings and it still requires a human brain to make the thing play properly in tune. Technology isn't there yet. peace

Even if the open string is in tune... Add to that the fact that many guitars are set up to be in tune when the string hits the fret not when it hits the fretboard. Since the frets can vary in height (I'd guess 1/32" at lowest - 1/8" at highest) if you push the string down to the fretboard, you've just managed to bend (and stretch) the string sharp even though you're technically playing at the right fret.

Peace,
Mr DJA

Spot on Mr. DJA! Simple trigonometry and the physics of tension forces at work in my daily life. One reason it pays to keep the action as low as possible on your guitar. Mick Taylor ofetn talked about that Gibson SG he used to play in the late 60's early 70's with the Stones and how beautiful it played and how very low the action was. This is likely one of the reasons for his satisfaction with that instrument.

For guitar players one of the BEST setups you can do is to adjust the action at the nut. I do this by pressing down on the third fret of each string and ensuring that there is a very minute gap still present on the string directly over the FIRST fret. It shouldn't be touching the fret and it should be just high enough to percieve a gap. Much thanks for the wonderful luthier Al M. at Sylvan Music in Santa Cruz, CA for showing me this technique. peace

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