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Keith's fingers
Posted by: Meise ()
Date: June 22, 2012 10:06

Are there any news about Keith's arthritis and his ability to get through a two hour concert? Aren't there any medical innovations to at least relieve the pain and making fingers smooth enough to play guitar?

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Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: June 22, 2012 10:19

there are innovations (already used during the last tours): 1. adding a hidden guitarist to play Keith's stuff, 2. more posing instead of playing - performed by Keith himself, 3. forcing Ronnie to play below his abilities to avoid playing better than Keith (poor Ronnie…)

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: Meise ()
Date: June 22, 2012 10:21

3. is not true as far as I can tell about concerts I witnessed live. In Frankfurt/Germany Ronnie was phantastic as Keith seemed to have lost any ability to play or know where he was

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-22 10:47 by Meise.

Re: Keith's fingers
Date: June 22, 2012 12:12

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slewan
there are innovations (already used during the last tours): 1. adding a hidden guitarist to play Keith's stuff, 2. more posing instead of playing - performed by Keith himself, 3. forcing Ronnie to play below his abilities to avoid playing better than Keith (poor Ronnie…)

He must be a very poor choice, and not very suitable for that?

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Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: June 22, 2012 12:20

If Ronnie is allowed to play - he can play very good.

Now he is not in Keith's shadow anymore.

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: SwayStones ()
Date: June 22, 2012 12:54

As far as I know, arthrisis is not getting better with the years, which can be a real problem for a guitarist.

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 22, 2012 14:31

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SwayStones
As far as I know, arthrisis is not getting better with the years, which can be a real problem for a guitarist.

it only gets worse and there's no cure.

oh, but he's keith and rules don't apply to him...or something.

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: June 22, 2012 15:29

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Meise
making fingers smooth enough to play guitar?

Sandpaper?

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: June 22, 2012 15:39

It's not so much his hand. It's his fried brain. Arthritis doesn't make you play whole guitar solos in the wrong key.

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 22, 2012 15:54

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More Hot Rocks
It's not so much his hand. It's his fried brain.

ah, well there's no cure for that either...

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: June 22, 2012 16:09

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More Hot Rocks
It's not so much his hand. It's his fried brain. Arthritis doesn't make you play whole guitar solos in the wrong key.

Arthritis really slows you down...maybe it's that he's playing the previous song, as he hasn't caught up to the band yet?

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 22, 2012 16:14

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treaclefingers
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More Hot Rocks
It's not so much his hand. It's his fried brain. Arthritis doesn't make you play whole guitar solos in the wrong key.

Arthritis really slows you down...maybe it's that he's playing the previous song, as he hasn't caught up to the band yet?

the band's driving too fast again...

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: June 22, 2012 16:20

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StonesTod
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treaclefingers
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More Hot Rocks
It's not so much his hand. It's his fried brain. Arthritis doesn't make you play whole guitar solos in the wrong key.

Arthritis really slows you down...maybe it's that he's playing the previous song, as he hasn't caught up to the band yet?

the band's driving too fast again...

oh, then let me slow down.

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: June 22, 2012 16:43

Yes, there is news: Keith can get though a two hour concert

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 22, 2012 16:48

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Send It To me
Yes, there is news: Keith can get though a two hour concert

most of us can. oh, you mean while playing guitar?

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: June 22, 2012 17:41

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DandelionPowderman
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slewan
there are innovations (already used during the last tours): 1. adding a hidden guitarist to play Keith's stuff, 2. more posing instead of playing - performed by Keith himself, 3. forcing Ronnie to play below his abilities to avoid playing better than Keith (poor Ronnie…)

He must be a very poor choice, and not very suitable for that?

if the hidden guitarist was too good, it might be too obvious…

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: June 22, 2012 17:42

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Send It To me
Yes, there is news: Keith can get though a two hour concert

yep, as a member of the audience…

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: micwer ()
Date: June 22, 2012 17:44

When did iorr.org become a Stones bashing site...?

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 22, 2012 17:45

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micwer
When did iorr.org become a Stones bashing site...?

last century

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: June 22, 2012 18:26

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micwer
When did iorr.org become a Stones bashing site...?
Nothing new about this micwer. Jokes at Keith's expense aside, his ability to play has been seriously called into question on multiple threads on this and other forums. There are some who deny it but the evidence supporting this view is a overwhelming. It gives me and I would think most here no pleasure to say this but it does seem to be the case...

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: June 22, 2012 18:35

Debates on playing ability aside, there does seem to be something geriatrically debilitating about KR's knobby E.T.-looking knuckles that no other contemporary guitarist seems to suffer from. Eric Clapton has played all the way through these last 5 decades and his hands are flawlessly smooth, even elegant, perhaps maintained by the regular exercise they receive. Pete Townshend, who is something of a guitar basher and has been known even on recent tours to bloody his hands at the expense of his instrument, likewise displays nothing unusual in the appearance of his fingers.

Perhaps the problem stems from Keef's lack of fitness mentality. Anyone who exercises regularly knows the benefits of calisthenics before and after a workout. Likewise, there are simple stretching and hand and finger exercises everyone who plays guitar should know... and it would seem that Keef either doesn't know or doesn't care.

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 22, 2012 18:43

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ChrisM
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micwer
When did iorr.org become a Stones bashing site...?
Nothing new about this micwer. Jokes at Keith's expense aside, his ability to play has been seriously called into question on multiple threads on this and other forums. There are some who deny it but the evidence supporting this view is a overwhelming. It gives me and I would think most here no pleasure to say this but it does seem to be the case...

i actually get pleasure...but then i've always been easy to please....

Re: Keith's fingers
Date: June 22, 2012 18:58

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Meise
Are there any news about Keith's arthritis and his ability to get through a two hour concert? Aren't there any medical innovations to at least relieve the pain and making fingers smooth enough to play guitar?

To my knowledge there never has been. News or even acknowledgement, that is. So why would there be now?

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: June 22, 2012 19:05

Lots of BS on these posts. YES there are some new cures for arthritis and some of them work quite well. Most people could get a handle on arthritis very quickly if they were willing to change their diets, unfortunately most people, like Keith, probably are not willing to do that.

Haven't you been to a pharmacy lately and seen the rows and rows of "Joint Pain" relief medicines? The reason there are so many of them is because they work somewhat and they are selling.

The most popular are Glucosamine, MSM and Chondrotin. Be careful and make sure you get Glucosamine Sulfate and not Hydrochloride. The Hydrochloride type has NOT shown to have the same results and companies are cashing in just on the name Glucosamine. Crushed crustacean shells and shark cartlidge have definately shown to help certain types of arthritis.

BUT, the real secret medicine for this as far as I'm concerned is called Botswella Serrata. Comes from an African tree bark. This stuff is just magic. I started to get hand problems and after taking this for a month they completely went away! The stuff had been around for a long time, I think it is the same as frankensense, the stuff the wise men brought baby Jesus in the manger over 2000 years ago. Wise men were wise then too, I'm not surprised.

Big Pharm companies are trying to get patents on the stuff now so we consumers have to get it from them but hopefully it will remain available to those who seek it out from other sources.

Keith could do alot to help those swollen joints and I hope he does before this next years tour, because I am expecting him to rip it up and blow everyone away at least one more time. peace

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 22, 2012 19:07

all bunk. my wife is a severe sufferer and there are no cures. PERIOD.

Re: Keith's fingers
Date: June 22, 2012 19:10

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StonesTod
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Send It To me
Yes, there is news: Keith can get though a two hour concert

most of us can. oh, you mean while playing guitar?

Most of you can though? I've never attempted to though. Just how does one though anyway? Hell, if Keith Richards can though a two hour concert "playing" the guitar I guess I can though a two hour...or something.

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: June 22, 2012 19:21

Fish oil is great - it cures whatever in the joints.

Maybe we should send him a bottle...



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Re: Keith's fingers
Date: June 22, 2012 19:27

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Naturalust
I think it is the same as frankensense, the stuff the wise men brought baby Jesus in the manger over 2000 years ago. Wise men were wise then too, I'm not surprised.

Highly focused pure speculation on your part, of course, based soley on fiction. Was there ever a mature Jesus in any manger?

Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: June 22, 2012 21:06

Supplement Guide: Fish Oil

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Dosage: Fish, capsules or chewable tab­lets. For general health, two 3-ounce servings of fish a week are recommended. However, it’s difficult to get a therapeutic dose of fish oil from food alone. To treat arthritis-related conditions, use fish oil capsules with at least 30 percent EPA/ DHA, the active ingredients. For lupus and psoriasis, 2 g EPA/DHA three times a day. For Raynaud’s phenomenon, 1 g four times a day. For rheumatoid arthritis, up to 2.6 g fish oil (1.6 g EPA) twice a day.

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What we know: Fish oil is an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids, which can reduce inflammation. Fish oil lowers blood trigylceride (fats that circulate in the blood­stream), protecting against heart disease and reducing high blood pressure.

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Re: Keith's fingers
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 22, 2012 21:12

sounds fishy to me

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