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This doesn't make sense. What does Rolling Stone magazine have to do with Keith's vague, wishy-washy answer? Someone from RS mag called Keith up asked for an update and Keith gave them his answer, they posted the quote. Where are they at fault, exactly? You gotta give RS credit for staying on top of this story. This is like their third or fourth follow up with Keith on tour plans and they seem to be keeping good communication with him to get answers. No other magazine or group has been able to do that with any of the Stones.
The headline was clear: Rolling Stones Gather to Plot 50th Anniversary Bash: Band will meet in July in London to discuss performing possibilities...not sure where the "gossip" is. The only gossip here is stonesnow's thread title--it has nothing to do with RS magazine.
So, Stonesnow says they aren't telling you it's not official yet, which means, of course, that nothing is official regardelss of when the yet may occur YET they 'stand by the title of the thread', which means...they are telling you it's official. Officailly that's just bunk.
They played In Another Land? Fantastic.
Good, because this is a Being Hit On The Head lesson
I was actually thinking of that sketch when responding to your first post.
By the way, since we're being supercilious here, is this [thread] becoming the Cheese Shop by any chance? For a "Being Hit On The Head lesson," wouldn't the Fish-Slapping Dance have been more appropriate?
And since when is an actual member of the Stones not a reliable source?
edit: My apologies if English isn't your first language. Perhaps there's a translation issue here?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-20 20:54 by GumbootCloggeroo.
Because I'm not. Such things as albums and tours begin with gathering to discuss such plans. If there were no such plans in the future, then why would they convene to discuss such topics? They're officially set to discuss the possibility of an album and a tour--you heard that from a band member. Once they have discussed it, they'll officially set about getting started on it. The process has officially begun, and Keith has officially informed Rolling Stone--and you heard it first from them, not me.
I will probably never fully understand why some have so much venom for me. I do agree (said as much) that nothing is official until a press conference is called announcing their plans for the 50th anniversary year. What we have in the meantime is most likely a series of carefully scripted leaks to build suspense towards whatever plans they have in store for us. Keith also said recently that everything is meant to be murky. I think we can believe him on that. Having said that I have been convinced since the end of the last tour that they would do something for their 50th. I still believe that. Sure, I have had my moments of doubt, but who wouldn't hanging around here for any length of time listening to so much negativity on a daily basis?
oh, good to know that it works! Keep up the good work everyone!!!
Well, it was Keith Richards igniting the flame this time around. He is after all a member of the Rolling Stones. Of course it is our job to fan the flame!
No, but possibilities lead to confirmation, and confirmation must begin somewhere, and this week it began with Rolling Stone magazine.
You're kidding, right?
So the Stones first gig at the Marquee in 1962 didnt take place because theres no illicit recording of it?
This has been done to death. I reported this story just after it happened, and the band have since confirmed it took place. Its been mentioned in several interviews since. It wasnt 'reported' because it was done low-key. Not everything the Stones do is a media event. Do we have to rely more on the word of a tabloid for something to have taken place instead of the band themselves?
hmmmm...that's kinda like saying sex leads to pregnancy....or that making significant eye contact leads to babies being born...or something...
I give up.
I appreciate the so called "insiders". I don't care what their personal motives are as long as they are providing me with information I do not have access to. It is up to me to determine whether that information is true or false, etc.. Sometimes, even the so called "insiders" are given false information. It's always a guessing game with the Rolling Stones. Once you learn that you stop stressing out over every little rumor that comes your way. In other words, sit back, chill out, and enjoy the show. This time around it was Keith that leaked some information. Naturally, it is going to be discussed on a forum like this. Speculation is a big part of being a fan of this band. Glad we have a place like this to speculate.
Not trying to tell you what to do, but maybe you should consider taking a little break from these kinds of threads for awhile? I am afraid the speculation is going to continue until we get the official word via a press conference. I hope that happens sooner and not later.
not good enough! in this day and age of false rumors and speculation gone amok, we require visual and/or audio evidence. otherwise, it clearly didn't happen.
please redouble your reporting efforts and draw-in whatever resources are required.
My guess is that they are much further along in the process (planning, etc.) then they care to tell us presently. Maybe they spring a surprise on us sometime this year? Even if it turns out to be next year, it really isn't that far off. It is almost July. Six months from July 1 is January 1, 2013. We should know something by then at the latest I would think. I still think there is no better date than July 12 to call a press conference and announce their plans for their 50th anniversary year which begins on July 12, 2012 and runs through July 11, 2013.
Puzzles is the key word here. The Stones give us the pieces, it is our job to put them together. The only logical explanation is that they have been pointing to the 50th anniversary year since the end of ABB and that they are far more prepared than they want us to believe. Mick knew the 50th was coming five years ago in 2007. It certainly adds to the "mystique" of the Rolling Stones that they could suddenly (at the last hour) pull together, heal all personal differences, produce a dynamite album, and do a world tour all at the drop of a hat. Mick is one of the most prepared performers in the entertainment business. It defies logic to think that he slept through the last five years without at least having one eye on the 50th anniversary celebration. Keith, also. So forget what you have read, and forget what has been said! It will all come together, suddenly, like a thief in the night!
No, I do not feel like I have a close personal relationship with Mick Jagger. Nor do I HAVE a close personal relationship with Mick Jagger. What I do HAVE is an understanding of how he operates. Maybe it's the promoter in me that allows me to understand his modus operandi? It really doesn't take the mind of a physics genius to understand how Mick operates. Even a dumb "boot" like yourself should have no problem! Just kidding, you are actually a very intelligent fellow.
Give him a break! He used the word official, (loosely). I think you know what he was trying to say.
OMG, this stonescrow character warned you all two years ago in the summer of 2010 how this thing was going to go down!
Yes, and I thank you for posting it. You probably shouldn't have used the word official but I think most of us understood what you were trying to say and that you were using the word "loosely". There are a few (maybe more than a few) on this forum that take things way too literal at times. It's just part of doing business here. Don't become discouraged. Keep posting. This has been a great discussion. Almost "orgasmic" for drama queens such as myself. Keep up the good work!
One Love, Gold Rings On Ya
Never said they were the only ones capable of "event foreplay". I use their tactics all the time in my own promotions, even use them right here at IORR occasionally! These tactics have become epidemic in the entertainment business. And they have been around for ages. No, the Stones are not the only ones, but they have definitely mastered the art.
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Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
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Date: June 20, 2012 19:39
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Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
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Date: June 20, 2012 19:40
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..well it's certainly not "official" !!!
It never is until Mick says, "enough"! He is really taking us to the limit this time around. I know exactly what he is doing but it still is driving me crazy! I thought I would hold up better!
Try harder.
No, just do, don't try.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
Justin
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Date: June 20, 2012 19:43
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Rolling Stone magazine has become no more reliable when it comes to posting Stones news than the Daily Mail or the Sun. Poorly reported journalism and gossip. This is just as nebulous as it ever was. The Rolling Stones are not a functioning band - they are a brand and an organization largely run by Mick Jagger and he will have the final say on anything "official". That said, sure, I hope this happens - but my hopes for it are no brighter than they were prior to RS.com posting this "news".
This doesn't make sense. What does Rolling Stone magazine have to do with Keith's vague, wishy-washy answer? Someone from RS mag called Keith up asked for an update and Keith gave them his answer, they posted the quote. Where are they at fault, exactly? You gotta give RS credit for staying on top of this story. This is like their third or fourth follow up with Keith on tour plans and they seem to be keeping good communication with him to get answers. No other magazine or group has been able to do that with any of the Stones.
The headline was clear: Rolling Stones Gather to Plot 50th Anniversary Bash: Band will meet in July in London to discuss performing possibilities...not sure where the "gossip" is. The only gossip here is stonesnow's thread title--it has nothing to do with RS magazine.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: June 20, 2012 19:43
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Since it's all official now, shouldn't this be a Sticky thread?
No!!!
Why not? According to the thread title, it's "official."
Are you telling me it's not official?
Not at all. I stand by the title of the thread. When they convene in London, they won't be gathering simply to pore over accountancy spreadsheets. I just think threads should be allowed to lapse and not hang around forever.
So, Stonesnow says they aren't telling you it's not official yet, which means, of course, that nothing is official regardelss of when the yet may occur YET they 'stand by the title of the thread', which means...they are telling you it's official. Officailly that's just bunk.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
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Date: June 20, 2012 19:45
This is the best line of the entire article:
"We played everything, really," says Richards.
At least he didn't say "literally". Goddamn does that man ever find new ways to create new myths.
"We played everything, really," says Richards.
At least he didn't say "literally". Goddamn does that man ever find new ways to create new myths.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
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Date: June 20, 2012 20:10
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This is the best line of the entire article:
"We played everything, really," says Richards.
At least he didn't say "literally". Goddamn does that man ever find new ways to create new myths.
They played In Another Land? Fantastic.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
Happy24
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Date: June 20, 2012 20:15
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But I wasn't looking for an argument in the first place.
Good, because this is a Being Hit On The Head lesson
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
stonesnow
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Date: June 20, 2012 20:43
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But I wasn't looking for an argument in the first place.
Good, because this is a Being Hit On The Head lesson
I was actually thinking of that sketch when responding to your first post.
By the way, since we're being supercilious here, is this [thread] becoming the Cheese Shop by any chance? For a "Being Hit On The Head lesson," wouldn't the Fish-Slapping Dance have been more appropriate?
And since when is an actual member of the Stones not a reliable source?
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
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Date: June 20, 2012 20:53
They can be, but the problem is you're still confusing what Keith said as confirmation that there will be an album and tour. Nowhere in that article did he state that. Keith is an official member of the band, yes. But based on the journalist's words in that article and based on Keith's quotations, there is no official news that they are recording and touring again and yet you're claiming that there is. Why can't you understand that you're wrong?Quote
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And since when is an actual member of the Stones not a reliable source?
edit: My apologies if English isn't your first language. Perhaps there's a translation issue here?
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Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
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stonesnow
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:03
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They can be, but the problem is you're still confusing what Keith said as confirmation that there will be an album and tour. Nowhere in that article did he state that. Keith is an official member of the band, yes. But based on the journalist's words in that article and based on Keith's quotations, there is no official news that they are recording and touring again and yet you're claiming that there is. Why can't you understand that you're wrong?Quote
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And since when is an actual member of the Stones not a reliable source?
Because I'm not. Such things as albums and tours begin with gathering to discuss such plans. If there were no such plans in the future, then why would they convene to discuss such topics? They're officially set to discuss the possibility of an album and a tour--you heard that from a band member. Once they have discussed it, they'll officially set about getting started on it. The process has officially begun, and Keith has officially informed Rolling Stone--and you heard it first from them, not me.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:11
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Sorry to interrupt the usual meaningless vomits by MightyStonesStillRollin50, I would like to touch the original subject of this thread and say, that the article says there will be a meeting, where the possibilities of recording and touring will be discussed. I can't really see how that makes the "Stones officialy set to record and tour," so I think it will be at least appropriate to change the title of the thread, which is misleading, which is why I (and I am sure many others) bothtered to open it only to realize, that it was just another place for thewatchmen / stonescrow / Mighty...whatever...
I will probably never fully understand why some have so much venom for me. I do agree (said as much) that nothing is official until a press conference is called announcing their plans for the 50th anniversary year. What we have in the meantime is most likely a series of carefully scripted leaks to build suspense towards whatever plans they have in store for us. Keith also said recently that everything is meant to be murky. I think we can believe him on that. Having said that I have been convinced since the end of the last tour that they would do something for their 50th. I still believe that. Sure, I have had my moments of doubt, but who wouldn't hanging around here for any length of time listening to so much negativity on a daily basis?
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:15
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Sure, I have had my moments of doubt, but who wouldn't hanging around here for any length of time listening to so much negativity on a daily basis?
oh, good to know that it works! Keep up the good work everyone!!!
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:16
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There are too many self acclaimed Stones Insiders spreading to many gossip news just to keep the steel wheels turning.
As Happy24 wrote it's already in hypothetical and nothing more.
Well, it was Keith Richards igniting the flame this time around. He is after all a member of the Rolling Stones. Of course it is our job to fan the flame!
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
GumbootCloggeroo
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:17
YES! NOW YOU'VE GOT IT! See how what you just said is completely different than "Stones officially set to record and tour". Possibilities do not equal confirmation.Quote
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They can be, but the problem is you're still confusing what Keith said as confirmation that there will be an album and tour. Nowhere in that article did he state that. Keith is an official member of the band, yes. But based on the journalist's words in that article and based on Keith's quotations, there is no official news that they are recording and touring again and yet you're claiming that there is. Why can't you understand that you're wrong?Quote
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And since when is an actual member of the Stones not a reliable source?
Because I'm not. Such things as albums and tours begin with gathering to discuss such plans. If there were no such plans in the future, then why would they convene to discuss such topics? They're officially set to discuss the possibility of an album and a tour--you heard that from a band member. Once they have discussed it, they'll officially set about getting started on it. The process has officially begun, and Keith has officially informed Rolling Stone--and you heard it first from them, not me.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
stonesnow
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:31
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Possibilities do not equal confirmation.
No, but possibilities lead to confirmation, and confirmation must begin somewhere, and this week it began with Rolling Stone magazine.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
Gazza
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:36
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Rolling Stone magazine has become no more reliable when it comes to posting Stones news than the Daily Mail or the Sun. Poorly reported journalism and gossip. This is just as nebulous as it ever was. The Rolling Stones are not a functioning band - they are a brand and an organization largely run by Mick Jagger and he will have the final say on anything "official". That said, sure, I hope this happens - but my hopes for it are no brighter than they were prior to RS.com posting this "news".
I thought 'rs.com' referred to the band's official site.
Anyway, Rolling Stone magazine havent claimed to have posted anything official. They're simply doing their job - reporting a news story relating to the band with a quote from a band member.
The journalist in question is the same one who interviewed Keith late last year, when he stated that he was hoping to get the band together in a few weeks for a jam session. THAT took place, as we know. He appears to be in semi-regular contact with Keith as he's published first hand quotes from him a few times since.
There's no comparison to the likes of the Daily Mail or (to use the Glastonbury story) the Daily Mirror, who are simply posting distorted (or sometimes totally fictional) stories from unnamed 'sources' and putting their own 'spin' on them to confuse people who are gullible enough to take anything in print at face value.
Do we know that Gazza? AFAIK, the alleged Jam Session was not reported by every major media outlet, and no bootlegs have been put into circulation. Why have we not heard anything official?
You're kidding, right?
So the Stones first gig at the Marquee in 1962 didnt take place because theres no illicit recording of it?
This has been done to death. I reported this story just after it happened, and the band have since confirmed it took place. Its been mentioned in several interviews since. It wasnt 'reported' because it was done low-key. Not everything the Stones do is a media event. Do we have to rely more on the word of a tabloid for something to have taken place instead of the band themselves?
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
StonesTod
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:36
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GumbootCloggeroo
Possibilities do not equal confirmation.
No, but possibilities lead to confirmation.
hmmmm...that's kinda like saying sex leads to pregnancy....or that making significant eye contact leads to babies being born...or something...
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
GumbootCloggeroo
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:37
So you're jumping to conclusions and declaring it as official confirmation. Greaaaaat.Quote
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Possibilities do not equal confirmation.
No, but possibilities lead to confirmation, and confirmation must begin somewhere, and this week it began with Rolling Stone magazine.
I give up.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:38
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Grison, those "insiders" do their spamming not to keep the steel wheels turning, they do it to desperately and sickly attract attention to themselves. But right now I am doing what I have just criticised - I am turning this thread towards tose sick creatures. I believe there is pretty much one, but whatever, this is exactly what he/she/it wants us to do, so let's leave it
I appreciate the so called "insiders". I don't care what their personal motives are as long as they are providing me with information I do not have access to. It is up to me to determine whether that information is true or false, etc.. Sometimes, even the so called "insiders" are given false information. It's always a guessing game with the Rolling Stones. Once you learn that you stop stressing out over every little rumor that comes your way. In other words, sit back, chill out, and enjoy the show. This time around it was Keith that leaked some information. Naturally, it is going to be discussed on a forum like this. Speculation is a big part of being a fan of this band. Glad we have a place like this to speculate.
Not trying to tell you what to do, but maybe you should consider taking a little break from these kinds of threads for awhile? I am afraid the speculation is going to continue until we get the official word via a press conference. I hope that happens sooner and not later.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
StonesTod
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:41
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Gazza
This has been done to death. I reported this story just after it happened, and the band have since confirmed it took place. Its been mentioned in several interviews since.
not good enough! in this day and age of false rumors and speculation gone amok, we require visual and/or audio evidence. otherwise, it clearly didn't happen.
please redouble your reporting efforts and draw-in whatever resources are required.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
GumbootCloggeroo
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:42
MightyStonesStillRollin50, rumours and speculations and insider information and guessing games are all part of show business. Stop acting like what the Stones are doing is some brilliant scheme that only they are capable of 
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 21:45
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When ROLLING STONE speaks, we better listen.. the magazine seems to their main unofficial information forum. Most of it is Jane Rose's client on fire, but there is also news-like stuff there. That the Stones will meet in next month in London. And most likely to discuss of their further performance-related plans. Keith's hints are typical Keef-like vague, and it is rather hard to distinguish the actual point from his fan and image-friendly wish-wish-talk. Seemingly some here take it it now as 'a deal done' that there will be a tour and a new studio album... Anyway, I am more skeptical here. This very sentence took my attention and made me wonder:
"Sources add that the band is still considering a tour in 2013."
To my ears this sounds a bit worring ... the tour or the nature of the performances is not really decided yet - June 2012 - but they are still considering it. (By the way: I have learned to trust quite a lot to ROLLING STONE's "sources", sometimes even more than to actual quotes.). This is to say that all of it still in the stage of planning (discussing "live performance possibilities"- nothing firm yet. I honestly thought that after their several meetings and reherseals the plans would be more concrete and firm by now. To me it looks like that they are very insecure of the whole thing. If anything, their old diesel seems to take quite a long time to run again...
- Doxa
My guess is that they are much further along in the process (planning, etc.) then they care to tell us presently. Maybe they spring a surprise on us sometime this year? Even if it turns out to be next year, it really isn't that far off. It is almost July. Six months from July 1 is January 1, 2013. We should know something by then at the latest I would think. I still think there is no better date than July 12 to call a press conference and announce their plans for their 50th anniversary year which begins on July 12, 2012 and runs through July 11, 2013.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 22:09
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it can be that all the previous meetings were done for the documentary or other "nice things" purposes, along with some warming up, and now they seriously start to thinking live performances.
The thing is that I don't believe that NOW they start to think about live performances. When the news that there won't be a 2012 tour, because the anniversary is actually 2013 (nonsence) broke out, most of us agreed and I still think so, that it all sounded like there was clearly an intention to tour in 2012 and it was changed at the very last moment for whatever reason and The Stones themselves were surprised by that and were looking desperately for some excuse. So I don't think they start to think about it now.
But what puzzles me most is really the obvoius insecurity you mentioned, since nobody in the world knows better than them what it takes to do a tour and how long it takes to plan it. From the little we know it looks like if they were lost in something they were doing for the first time, which is not true. So again, they know exactly what it takes and they and only they know what shape they are in. It seems it should be quite easy to put those two things together and the equation should have a simple solution. But it obviously doesn't. That's what puzzles me and can't see a satisfactory explanation. Not that I don't sleep at night because of it
Puzzles is the key word here. The Stones give us the pieces, it is our job to put them together. The only logical explanation is that they have been pointing to the 50th anniversary year since the end of ABB and that they are far more prepared than they want us to believe. Mick knew the 50th was coming five years ago in 2007. It certainly adds to the "mystique" of the Rolling Stones that they could suddenly (at the last hour) pull together, heal all personal differences, produce a dynamite album, and do a world tour all at the drop of a hat. Mick is one of the most prepared performers in the entertainment business. It defies logic to think that he slept through the last five years without at least having one eye on the 50th anniversary celebration. Keith, also. So forget what you have read, and forget what has been said! It will all come together, suddenly, like a thief in the night!
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
GumbootCloggeroo
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Date: June 20, 2012 22:18
Really? You mean he understands basic math and how to count?!? 20 years ago he probably had no idea when the 50th anniversary would be, right?Quote
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Mick knew the 50th was coming five years ago in 2007.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 22:23
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..well it's certainly not "official" !!!
It never is until Mick says, "enough"! He is really taking us to the limit this time around. I know exactly what he is doing but it still is driving me crazy! I thought I would hold up better!
No, I do not feel like I have a close personal relationship with Mick Jagger. Nor do I HAVE a close personal relationship with Mick Jagger. What I do HAVE is an understanding of how he operates. Maybe it's the promoter in me that allows me to understand his modus operandi? It really doesn't take the mind of a physics genius to understand how Mick operates. Even a dumb "boot" like yourself should have no problem! Just kidding, you are actually a very intelligent fellow.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 22:27
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stonesnow, do you know the definition of the word "official"?
Give him a break! He used the word official, (loosely). I think you know what he was trying to say.
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 22:37
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You sure did, stonescrow!Quote
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Well, I warned you a long time ago how this thing was going to go down.
OMG, this stonescrow character warned you all two years ago in the summer of 2010 how this thing was going to go down!
Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
Posted by:
MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Date: June 20, 2012 22:46
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So based on that definition of yours, shouldn't your subject heading be "Keith officially says that Stones are to discuss about whether or not they will record an album and Keith officially says that he'd like to play some concerts and they're considering going out on tour"?Quote
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stonesnow, do you know the definition of the word "official"?
there's several unofficial definitions, you know....
Sure. Official: the difference between "rumor" (i.e., The Mirror UK) and "news" (i.e., the Rolling Stone article). News tells us something concrete from verifiable sources, as opposed to hearsay based on unnamed "sources."
There's nothing in that article that states that they are going to record an album and tour. It's not official. A press release is official. Keith saying "yes, we are recording, we have booked 3 months worth of studio time" is official.right, but come on, don´t blame him to be one of the first to read that article and make a thread out of it, which I basically welcome! the article is "good news" and, yes, it has no "official" tour- or record-announcment, but some good and "new" news!
True. This thread was inevitable. I was merely the first to post it.
Yes, and I thank you for posting it. You probably shouldn't have used the word official but I think most of us understood what you were trying to say and that you were using the word "loosely". There are a few (maybe more than a few) on this forum that take things way too literal at times. It's just part of doing business here. Don't become discouraged. Keep posting. This has been a great discussion. Almost "orgasmic" for drama queens such as myself. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
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Date: June 20, 2012 23:00
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MightyStonesStillRollin50, rumours and speculations and insider information and guessing games are all part of show business. Stop acting like what the Stones are doing is some brilliant scheme that only they are capable of
Never said they were the only ones capable of "event foreplay". I use their tactics all the time in my own promotions, even use them right here at IORR occasionally! These tactics have become epidemic in the entertainment business. And they have been around for ages. No, the Stones are not the only ones, but they have definitely mastered the art.
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Re: Stones officially set to record and tour
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Date: June 20, 2012 23:10
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Rolling Stone magazine has become no more reliable when it comes to posting Stones news than the Daily Mail or the Sun. Poorly reported journalism and gossip. This is just as nebulous as it ever was. The Rolling Stones are not a functioning band - they are a brand and an organization largely run by Mick Jagger and he will have the final say on anything "official". That said, sure, I hope this happens - but my hopes for it are no brighter than they were prior to RS.com posting this "news".
I thought 'rs.com' referred to the band's official site.
Anyway, Rolling Stone magazine havent claimed to have posted anything official. They're simply doing their job - reporting a news story relating to the band with a quote from a band member.
The journalist in question is the same one who interviewed Keith late last year, when he stated that he was hoping to get the band together in a few weeks for a jam session. THAT took place, as we know. He appears to be in semi-regular contact with Keith as he's published first hand quotes from him a few times since.
There's no comparison to the likes of the Daily Mail or (to use the Glastonbury story) the Daily Mirror, who are simply posting distorted (or sometimes totally fictional) stories from unnamed 'sources' and putting their own 'spin' on them to confuse people who are gullible enough to take anything in print at face value.
Do we know that Gazza? AFAIK, the alleged Jam Session was not reported by every major media outlet, and no bootlegs have been put into circulation. Why have we not heard anything official?
You're kidding, right?
So the Stones first gig at the Marquee in 1962 didnt take place because theres no illicit recording of it?
This has been done to death. I reported this story just after it happened, and the band have since confirmed it took place. Its been mentioned in several interviews since. It wasnt 'reported' because it was done low-key. Not everything the Stones do is a media event. Do we have to rely more on the word of a tabloid for something to have taken place instead of the band themselves?
Yes, I am kidding... hence the winking smiley.
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