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Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Happy24 ()
Date: June 17, 2012 17:25

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StonesTod
it could be true, unless of course it isn't.

Exactly. Is mirror.co.uk a reliable source or is it a tabloid? The thing is that I don't believe that news like that would come out this way. I just don't believe it.

It is not impossible of course, but it sounds strange that they would play some shows and end on 23 June. I guess if they played Europe in summer, they would do out-door gigs, but one can not really tour Europe before the end of May (I mean out-door venues). That would really mean just a couple of gigs. Might be...

The article sounds to me like it wants to suggest that it will actually be a single performance, not a tour, but that sounds very unlikely to me, I am sure it would be pretty sloppy and as was said many times before, I can't imagine The Stones play such a big festival without quite a few gigs before to get the band in a working condition really. And the idea that it would be the very last concert makes it sound even more unlikely to me.

I think it is just another article that someone made up, based on speculations what might happen...



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Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 17, 2012 17:34

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They've always denied they would ever announce a tour as being the last one, but we'll see...

Not announcing it publicly doesnt mean they wont DO a 'last tour'.

Anyone who thinks that the Stones - a band who are around 70 years old, who have band members in questionable health and who take half a decade off at a time - have more than one more major tour in them is in cloud cuckoo land.

Keith was out voted 2-1. Ronnie was up for it, but his vote obviously doesn't count.

What on earth are you talking about?

A few carefully selected 'quotes' and 'assumptions' isnt evidence of a band vote!



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Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 17, 2012 17:45

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They've always denied they would ever announce a tour as being the last one, but we'll see...

Not announcing it publicly doesnt mean they wont DO a 'last tour'.

Anyone who thinks that the Stones - a band who are around 70 years old, who have band members in questionable health and who take half a decade off at a time - have more than one more major tour in them is in cloud cuckoo land.

Keith was out voted 2-1. Ronnie was up for it, but his vote obviously doesn't count.

What on earth are you talking about?

A few carefully selected 'quotes' and 'assumptions' isnt evidence of a band vote!

inadmissable evidence, then? if that's the case, then maybe the case should be thrown out....or something.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 17, 2012 17:48

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They've always denied they would ever announce a tour as being the last one, but we'll see...

Not announcing it publicly doesnt mean they wont DO a 'last tour'.

Anyone who thinks that the Stones - a band who are around 70 years old, who have band members in questionable health and who take half a decade off at a time - have more than one more major tour in them is in cloud cuckoo land.

go ahead and tell me its not possible.

Thats not the same thing.

You really think the Stones are up to a major tour when they're in their mid to late 70s? Or that they'd have the slightest inclination to do it?

Have fun with that!



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Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: corriecas ()
Date: June 17, 2012 17:58

ithink, they will do some shows, next year, in NYC, Paris, London,Amsterdam and then...........its over. Adios Fans
Maybe, in total 2 months.
Maximum....

Jeroen

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: June 17, 2012 18:16

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Deathgod
wish the boys would make an announcement soon

I don't know who you mean, but I hope the senior citizens (old men) known as The Rolling Stones make an announcement soon.

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Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 17, 2012 18:20

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Happy24

Exactly. Is mirror.co.uk a reliable source or is it a tabloid? The thing is that I don't believe that news like that would come out this way. I just don't believe it.

Its not a 'news' as its not an official announcement and isnt confirmed. Either its a 'leak' or just a 'rumour'.

Re: The 'reliable source' vs 'tabloid' debate. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Most stories that are leaked or broken by UK newspapers are done in tabloid newspapers. Its not as if they invent or distort EVERY story.

Those are the papers that most people read and they're the ones who pay the most money for their stories.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Date: June 17, 2012 18:51

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Cafaro
I always find it interesting when the Stones are compared to the old bluesmen in terms of longevity and touring etc. Frankly, I see very few similarities.

The reality is that the Stones are amajor corporation. They dont sit there like Buddy Guy and say "I'd sure love to tour Canada - think Ill get a little band together and head out" I mean,the Stones couldnt do that..When was the last time the Stones just went out and played a show without an elaborate stage set up? Even on Shine a Light, they had a very sophisticated set up..

Also, guys like BB, Buddy etc..tour almost every year. They still put out product--as in music---not wine! They stay in the game and are still playing very well . The Stones? Well , Woody did good disc 5 + years ago, Charlie is a Jazzer, Mick did Super Heavy....so in other words they aint doin much.

Good comments. The way I see it is that Mick and Charlie have lives outside of the Rolling Stones. Keith and Ronnie would probably have liked for them to tour more often over the years. Now it is too late, but to do one more tour and call it quits. Sure, we would all love them to spend their final days on earth banging out country and blues albums and doing a few clubs, but it appears they will head their own separate ways after 2013. If only we were writing the script?

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: June 17, 2012 19:14

"a source" - I am overfukcingwhelmed

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Date: June 17, 2012 19:15

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Cafaro
I always find it interesting when the Stones are compared to the old bluesmen in terms of longevity and touring etc. Frankly, I see very few similarities.

The reality is that the Stones are amajor corporation. They dont sit there like Buddy Guy and say "I'd sure love to tour Canada - think Ill get a little band together and head out" I mean,the Stones couldnt do that..When was the last time the Stones just went out and played a show without an elaborate stage set up? Even on Shine a Light, they had a very sophisticated set up..

Also, guys like BB, Buddy etc..tour almost every year. They still put out product--as in music---not wine! They stay in the game and are still playing very well . The Stones? Well , Woody did good disc 5 + years ago, Charlie is a Jazzer, Mick did Super Heavy....so in other words they aint doin much.

Good comments. The way I see it is that Mick and Charlie have lives outside of the Rolling Stones. Keith and Ronnie would probably have liked for them to tour more often over the years. Now it is too late, but to do one more tour and call it quits. Sure, we would all love them to spend their final days on earth banging out country and blues albums and doing a few clubs, but it appears they will head their own separate ways after 2013. If only we were writing the script?

So it looks like one more year of fun and games. All good things come to an end, eventually.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: June 17, 2012 19:15

last tour for sure, but with wyman back it makes it all the more interesting

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Happy24 ()
Date: June 17, 2012 19:20

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Gazza

Re: The 'reliable source' vs 'tabloid' debate. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Most stories that are leaked or broken by UK newspapers are done in tabloid newspapers. Its not as if they invent or distort EVERY story.

I see. It's good to hear, since our (Czech) tabloids DO invent or distort EVERY story. That is why I am so suspicious and that is why I asked. I can imagine it doesn't have to be like that everywhere around The Globe.

Anyway, as usual - we don't know anything :-)



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Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Date: June 17, 2012 19:38

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Gazza
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They've always denied they would ever announce a tour as being the last one, but we'll see...

Not announcing it publicly doesnt mean they wont DO a 'last tour'.

Anyone who thinks that the Stones - a band who are around 70 years old, who have band members in questionable health and who take half a decade off at a time - have more than one more major tour in them is in cloud cuckoo land.

Keith was out voted 2-1. Ronnie was up for it, but his vote obviously doesn't count.

What on earth are you talking about?

A few carefully selected 'quotes' and 'assumptions' isnt evidence of a band vote!

I am talking specifically about the 50th anniversary year. What lies after is anybody's guess, but this article isn't in conflict with anything my source has been telling me. Keith was up for doing one final blockbuster tour, but Mick had the final word. He always does. I am glad they are planning on a small scale tour. Just hope we get a new album to go with it.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 17, 2012 19:40

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MightyStonesStillRollin50
I am talking specifically about the 50th anniversary year.

let me go out on a limb and be the first to boldly predict a 51st anniversary year.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: jazzbass ()
Date: June 17, 2012 19:44

IFthat is the case. I could see him doing a few of the UK shows, but doubt he'll come to America, at least in an airplane.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 17, 2012 19:44

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Gazza
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MightyStonesStillRollin50
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They've always denied they would ever announce a tour as being the last one, but we'll see...

Not announcing it publicly doesnt mean they wont DO a 'last tour'.

Anyone who thinks that the Stones - a band who are around 70 years old, who have band members in questionable health and who take half a decade off at a time - have more than one more major tour in them is in cloud cuckoo land.

Keith was out voted 2-1. Ronnie was up for it, but his vote obviously doesn't count.

What on earth are you talking about?

A few carefully selected 'quotes' and 'assumptions' isnt evidence of a band vote!

I am talking specifically about the 50th anniversary year. What lies after is anybody's guess, but this article isn't in conflict with anything my source has been telling me. Keith was up for doing one final blockbuster tour, but Mick had the final word. He always does. I am glad they are planning on a small scale tour. Just hope we get a new album to go with it.

The voices in your head dont really count as a 'source' !

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 17, 2012 19:46

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Gazza
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MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Gazza
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MightyStonesStillRollin50
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Gazza
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They've always denied they would ever announce a tour as being the last one, but we'll see...

Not announcing it publicly doesnt mean they wont DO a 'last tour'.

Anyone who thinks that the Stones - a band who are around 70 years old, who have band members in questionable health and who take half a decade off at a time - have more than one more major tour in them is in cloud cuckoo land.

Keith was out voted 2-1. Ronnie was up for it, but his vote obviously doesn't count.

What on earth are you talking about?

A few carefully selected 'quotes' and 'assumptions' isnt evidence of a band vote!

I am talking specifically about the 50th anniversary year. What lies after is anybody's guess, but this article isn't in conflict with anything my source has been telling me. Keith was up for doing one final blockbuster tour, but Mick had the final word. He always does. I am glad they are planning on a small scale tour. Just hope we get a new album to go with it.

The voices in your head dont really count as a 'source' !

why not? there are rules to this?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-06-17 19:46 by StonesTod.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Date: June 17, 2012 19:53

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melillo
last tour for sure, but with wyman back it makes it all the more interesting

That last concert with Wyman and possibly Taylor is going to be "One For The Ages"! I am already working on my dream set list.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: chelskeith ()
Date: June 17, 2012 19:58

I doubt there is or was a vote as Mick holds the cards.

Why have a vote when they know Keith wants to play, Ronnie wants to play, Charlie will likely go along with the majority, and Mick is the indecisive one, or he has decided and just hasnt shared his plans with anyone as he doesnt want a leak.

I'm told Keith's playing is not the problem, if there is a problem, and that's from people who have seen him recently playing, and often.

Don't ask.

What we do know is they've played together twice in the past few months, so there was a reason for that, but probably only Mick and Keith know the exact reason, and eack may have had different reasons.

It's a chess game with those two, but at least they're still playing, to some degree anyway.

The money factor is interesting. Charlie and Keith likely don't need it, Ronnie needs it, and the driving force behind everything may be how much Mick needs it to continue or to grow. He certainly isnt making moey from his Non-Stones ventures into recording or producing or acting. He likely is a keen investor, so that probably makes his Stones income less important, but I think this may be one of the biggest decising factors for him as to what direction to take. I know you may say he's worth hundreds of millions, but when one has a very expensive lifestyle, that can go somewhat quickly.

I do think from a gut and nothing else that there may be some truth to this rumor.

I doubt the rumors that said Mick was rehearsing the Stones for 7 days to see if they could play SNL. Look at their history, when have they laid off for years and then rehearsed for a week and played such a high profile gig?

Mick may read these boards as much as any of us, probably at least glances often IMO, and maybe he agreed to play in December and then even organized the follow up when he know he'd be in NYC for SNL so he could see how they sounded after another week, and to start making plans for the 50th. Remember ronnie is also a key piece and he likely wanted to make sure he stayed in shape, which he has done!

Whatever is happening, it should be interesting, and guessing and speculating is kinda fun.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: June 17, 2012 20:00

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I am glad they are planning on a small scale tour. Just hope we get a new album to go with it.

I am afraid that having a new album is not likely to happen. Since STEEL WHEELS the albums have had an instrumental value in promoting big scale tours. They haven't sometimes been motivated enough to make a new album even for a big scale tour, so I wouldn't hold my breath them having an instant spark of creativity now - to make a record just the sake of it. But, of course, miracles happen. They opened the vaults, etc.

Besides, if what the article claims is true - that they have decided that it will be over next year (I doubt that), why would they bother in that case to make a brand new studio album, full of new material, when The End is known to be so near? Why now when it doesn't really matter much longer? Hard to think how they can motivate themselves doing that, when making new music has been so hard for them for some two decades now.

- Doxa



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Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Date: June 17, 2012 20:05

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They've always denied they would ever announce a tour as being the last one, but we'll see...

Not announcing it publicly doesnt mean they wont DO a 'last tour'.

Anyone who thinks that the Stones - a band who are around 70 years old, who have band members in questionable health and who take half a decade off at a time - have more than one more major tour in them is in cloud cuckoo land.

Keith was out voted 2-1. Ronnie was up for it, but his vote obviously doesn't count.

What on earth are you talking about?

A few carefully selected 'quotes' and 'assumptions' isnt evidence of a band vote!

I am talking specifically about the 50th anniversary year. What lies after is anybody's guess, but this article isn't in conflict with anything my source has been telling me. Keith was up for doing one final blockbuster tour, but Mick had the final word. He always does. I am glad they are planning on a small scale tour. Just hope we get a new album to go with it.

The voices in your head dont really count as a 'source' !

Only when they are accurate.smoking smiley

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Date: June 17, 2012 20:08

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chelskeith
I doubt there is or was a vote as Mick holds the cards.

Why have a vote when they know Keith wants to play, Ronnie wants to play, Charlie will likely go along with the majority, and Mick is the indecisive one, or he has decided and just hasnt shared his plans with anyone as he doesnt want a leak.

I'm told Keith's playing is not the problem, if there is a problem, and that's from people who have seen him recently playing, and often.

Don't ask.

What we do know is they've played together twice in the past few months, so there was a reason for that, but probably only Mick and Keith know the exact reason, and eack may have had different reasons.

It's a chess game with those two, but at least they're still playing, to some degree anyway.

The money factor is interesting. Charlie and Keith likely don't need it, Ronnie needs it, and the driving force behind everything may be how much Mick needs it to continue or to grow. He certainly isnt making moey from his Non-Stones ventures into recording or producing or acting. He likely is a keen investor, so that probably makes his Stones income less important, but I think this may be one of the biggest decising factors for him as to what direction to take. I know you may say he's worth hundreds of millions, but when one has a very expensive lifestyle, that can go somewhat quickly.

I do think from a gut and nothing else that there may be some truth to this rumor.

I doubt the rumors that said Mick was rehearsing the Stones for 7 days to see if they could play SNL. Look at their history, when have they laid off for years and then rehearsed for a week and played such a high profile gig?

Mick may read these boards as much as any of us, probably at least glances often IMO, and maybe he agreed to play in December and then even organized the follow up when he know he'd be in NYC for SNL so he could see how they sounded after another week, and to start making plans for the 50th. Remember ronnie is also a key piece and he likely wanted to make sure he stayed in shape, which he has done!

Whatever is happening, it should be interesting, and guessing and speculating is kinda fun.

Yes, no literal vote was taken.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Date: June 17, 2012 20:09

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jazzbass
IFthat is the case. I could see him doing a few of the UK shows, but doubt he'll come to America, at least in an airplane.

Would he consider coming by hydroplane?

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: June 17, 2012 20:16

Even if true, I think we all know that if they go on the road and start (1.) having fun, (2.) making money, and (3.) playing well, that they will add additional dates and additional legs if they feel like it.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Date: June 17, 2012 20:18

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Send It To me
Even if true, I think we all know that if they go on the road and start (1.) having fun, (2.) making money, and (3.) playing well, that they will add additional dates and additional legs if they feel like it.

Yes, what you have said here is definitely a possibility.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 17, 2012 20:45

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chelskeith
I'm told Keith's playing is not the problem, if there is a problem, and that's from people who have seen him recently playing, and often.

Don't ask.

i wasn't going to ask until you said not to, so i'm asking....

have these ppl who have often seen him play recently heard him play recently, too?

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 17, 2012 20:46

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Gazza


The voices in your head dont really count as a 'source' !

Only when they are accurate.smoking smiley

smileys with beer excellent!

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 17, 2012 20:56

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Gazza
Despite the copy and paste and tabloid-ish style way the article is thrown together, the basic gist of the story (a few gigs, summer 2013, final tour and Glastonbury) are a believable and realistic scenario.

The final night of Glasto 2013 will be Sunday 23rd June if thats the case, then.

just got an e-mail to correct this. Next years Glastonbury is a bit later than usual and runs from 26-30 June.

Thaks, Nomen.

You can register for tickets for 2013 already. Saying that, the tickets wont be on sale for several months.

[glastonbury.seetickets.com]

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 17, 2012 21:11

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I am talking specifically about the 50th anniversary year.

let me go out on a limb and be the first to boldly predict a 51st anniversary year.

Personally, I'm saving my money now for the 75th Anniversary Tour.

Re: Farewell shows...could this be true ?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: June 17, 2012 22:14

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I am talking specifically about the 50th anniversary year.

let me go out on a limb and be the first to boldly predict a 51st anniversary year.

Personally, I'm saving my money now for the 75th Anniversary Tour.

oh, i didn't realize we were talking about a tour. i am only really good at predicting when certain years will occur. i'll leave the tour predictions to the experts.

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