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jamesfdouglas
Plenty of good music being made today. Lots of it.

That's why I like this forum. I'm 38, but so many of yo umake me feel so young in comparison. Man some of you are such old farts!!!

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24FPS
Yes, you are out of time. Rock and Roll is mostly over, and has been over, after a short burst in the early 90s that crescendoed and died with Kurt Cobain's brains hurtling into space.

1985, when your listening pleasure ended, is 37 years ago. 37 years is a long time. 37 years earlier than 1985 is 1948. That's Big Band music time, and even then it was on its last legs.

There is no reason to look for bands that are pale imitations of rock and roll that came before them, as in The Black Keys. We have plenty of records to listen to from 1955-somewhere in the 80s that are chock full of rock goodness. If we continue to prop up retro bands then we will only delay the next revolution in music. And that revolution will not be a rhytym guitarist, lead, bass, and drums. Rock and Roll was an extension of blues, C&W, and a tinge of jazz. It was played with new instruments. Those instruments are played out.

Enjoy what few classic artists can still play the real thing, Neil Young, The Stones, McCartney. And then let the future happen. You will hate the future. But the future is not about you. Your, our, time has past. Rock and Roll was our revolution. Now we must give up the things of childhood and not stand in the way of the next generation.

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24FPS
Yes, you are out of time. Rock and Roll is mostly over, and has been over, after a short burst in the early 90s that crescendoed and died with Kurt Cobain's brains hurtling into space.

1985, when your listening pleasure ended, is 37 years ago. 37 years is a long time. 37 years earlier than 1985 is 1948. That's Big Band music time, and even then it was on its last legs.

There is no reason to look for bands that are pale imitations of rock and roll that came before them, as in The Black Keys. We have plenty of records to listen to from 1955-somewhere in the 80s that are chock full of rock goodness. If we continue to prop up retro bands then we will only delay the next revolution in music. And that revolution will not be a rhytym guitarist, lead, bass, and drums. Rock and Roll was an extension of blues, C&W, and a tinge of jazz. It was played with new instruments. Those instruments are played out.

Enjoy what few classic artists can still play the real thing, Neil Young, The Stones, McCartney. And then let the future happen. You will hate the future. But the future is not about you. Your, our, time has past. Rock and Roll was our revolution. Now we must give up the things of childhood and not stand in the way of the next generation.

27 years ago was indeed a long time ago--it only feels like 37, doesn't it? But isn't rock always fizzling out and then recycling itself? Look at the first wave of rockers in the 50s how they died off or fizzled out, then look what happened to pop music in the early 60s, the soft and soppy singing stars (just like now). The Beatles and Stones brought something refreshing, but it was largely based on what they had heard before. Let's not forget the contribution made by Jim Marshall to how rock later sounded. One thing, though, always amused me about the punks--the way they rebelled against the previous generation... with the same instruments, only played faster. Then when synth-pop (techno pop) took over radio music in the early to mid 80s, it was predicted that music would only get more technological from there, and you could hear interviews with synth-pop artists of the time saying how they were bored with the "limitations" of rock music. I don't know, I'll believe it's truly over when the last-ever guitar shop goes out of business for lack of sales--and right now, my favorite local guitar shop is doing just fine, people of all ages come in to try out and purchase those same old brands of guitars and amps. Like Johnny (Rotten) Lydon said recently, "The generation gap in rock was started by Pete Townshend in 1965 with the song My Generation." Let's see the next generation come up with new instruments before there's any so-called next music revolution.

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24FPS
Yes, you are out of time. Rock and Roll is mostly over, and has been over, after a short burst in the early 90s that crescendoed and died with Kurt Cobain's brains hurtling into space.

1985, when your listening pleasure ended, is 37 years ago. 37 years is a long time. 37 years earlier than 1985 is 1948. That's Big Band music time, and even then it was on its last legs.

There is no reason to look for bands that are pale imitations of rock and roll that came before them, as in The Black Keys. We have plenty of records to listen to from 1955-somewhere in the 80s that are chock full of rock goodness. If we continue to prop up retro bands then we will only delay the next revolution in music. And that revolution will not be a rhytym guitarist, lead, bass, and drums. Rock and Roll was an extension of blues, C&W, and a tinge of jazz. It was played with new instruments. Those instruments are played out.

Enjoy what few classic artists can still play the real thing, Neil Young, The Stones, McCartney. And then let the future happen. You will hate the future. But the future is not about you. Your, our, time has past. Rock and Roll was our revolution. Now we must give up the things of childhood and not stand in the way of the next generation.

27 years ago was indeed a long time ago--it only feels like 37, doesn't it? But isn't rock always fizzling out and then recycling itself? Look at the first wave of rockers in the 50s how they died off or fizzled out, then look what happened to pop music in the early 60s, the soft and soppy singing stars (just like now). The Beatles and Stones brought something refreshing, but it was largely based on what they had heard before. Let's not forget the contribution made by Jim Marshall to how rock later sounded. One thing, though, always amused me about the punks--the way they rebelled against the previous generation... with the same instruments, only played faster. Then when synth-pop (techno pop) took over radio music in the early to mid 80s, it was predicted that music would only get more technological from there, and you could hear interviews with synth-pop artists of the time saying how they were bored with the "limitations" of rock music. I don't know, I'll believe it's truly over when the last-ever guitar shop goes out of business for lack of sales--and right now, my favorite local guitar shop is doing just fine, people of all ages come in to try out and purchase those same old brands of guitars and amps. Like Johnny (Rotten) Lydon said recently, "The generation gap in rock was started by Pete Townshend in 1965 with the song My Generation." Let's see the next generation come up with new instruments before there's any so-called next music revolution.

Sorry about my math. Getting old. The most disappointing thing about todays so called rock artists is their apathy. None of them seem to say, Yeah the Beatles and Stones were great, but we're going to be better! We're going to be more innovative! We're going to write better songs! Which is what the Beatles and STones did. Young people suck, only this time they suck because they are lame.

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mandu
Bands like poison,faster pussycat, cinderella,motley crue are still playing they are from the 80s

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24FPS
Yes, you are out of time. Rock and Roll is mostly over, and has been over, after a short burst in the early 90s that crescendoed and died with Kurt Cobain's brains hurtling into space.

1985, when your listening pleasure ended, is 37 years ago. 37 years is a long time. 37 years earlier than 1985 is 1948. That's Big Band music time, and even then it was on its last legs.

There is no reason to look for bands that are pale imitations of rock and roll that came before them, as in The Black Keys. We have plenty of records to listen to from 1955-somewhere in the 80s that are chock full of rock goodness. If we continue to prop up retro bands then we will only delay the next revolution in music. And that revolution will not be a rhytym guitarist, lead, bass, and drums. Rock and Roll was an extension of blues, C&W, and a tinge of jazz. It was played with new instruments. Those instruments are played out.

Enjoy what few classic artists can still play the real thing, Neil Young, The Stones, McCartney. And then let the future happen. You will hate the future. But the future is not about you. Your, our, time has past. Rock and Roll was our revolution. Now we must give up the things of childhood and not stand in the way of the next generation.

27 years ago was indeed a long time ago--it only feels like 37, doesn't it? But isn't rock always fizzling out and then recycling itself? Look at the first wave of rockers in the 50s how they died off or fizzled out, then look what happened to pop music in the early 60s, the soft and soppy singing stars (just like now). The Beatles and Stones brought something refreshing, but it was largely based on what they had heard before. Let's not forget the contribution made by Jim Marshall to how rock later sounded. One thing, though, always amused me about the punks--the way they rebelled against the previous generation... with the same instruments, only played faster. Then when synth-pop (techno pop) took over radio music in the early to mid 80s, it was predicted that music would only get more technological from there, and you could hear interviews with synth-pop artists of the time saying how they were bored with the "limitations" of rock music. I don't know, I'll believe it's truly over when the last-ever guitar shop goes out of business for lack of sales--and right now, my favorite local guitar shop is doing just fine, people of all ages come in to try out and purchase those same old brands of guitars and amps. Like Johnny (Rotten) Lydon said recently, "The generation gap in rock was started by Pete Townshend in 1965 with the song My Generation." Let's see the next generation come up with new instruments before there's any so-called next music revolution.

Sorry about my math. Getting old. The most disappointing thing about todays so called rock artists is their apathy. None of them seem to say, Yeah the Beatles and Stones were great, but we're going to be better! We're going to be more innovative! We're going to write better songs! Which is what the Beatles and STones did. Young people suck, only this time they suck because they are lame.

Except for James McCartney, of course, who recently said his goal was to be at least as good as the Beatles. Said he someday wanted to perform with the other sons of the Beatles. Reminded me a bit of Tiger Woods who set his sights on Jack Nicklaus's records from the time he was a kid.

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Naturalust
Young people suck, only this time they suck because they are lame.


ouch. James hang in there, you and I know there is plenty of good music being made, it's just harder for the average person to find it.

In fact beautiful, magic, spell- binding, sould rippin rock and roll is still happening. I am amazed and blown away by the talent these days. At least here in the USA this summer.... I'm not talking about the latest Pop sensations but the guys playing the coastal resort circuit, the local house band in a club in New Orleans and Saturday nights in the beer drenched college venues of the midwest. What rock you hiding under 24FPS? peace

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Naturalust
Young people suck, only this time they suck because they are lame.


ouch. James hang in there, you and I know there is plenty of good music being made, it's just harder for the average person to find it.

In fact beautiful, magic, spell- binding, sould rippin rock and roll is still happening. I am amazed and blown away by the talent these days. At least here in the USA this summer.... I'm not talking about the latest Pop sensations but the guys playing the coastal resort circuit, the local house band in a club in New Orleans and Saturday nights in the beer drenched college venues of the midwest. What rock you hiding under 24FPS? peace

There are people out there making a buck playing old rock and roll songs, like you can hear old blues songs being played on Beale Street. They have fun, they make people happy to hear their familiar old songs again. But is that what we've come to? People calling themselves rock stars now are all over the last five minutes every night on Letterman/Leno/Fallon & Kimmell. 99% of them dress like college students who just rolled out of bed for an 8-O'Clock class. Where's the sense of rock fashion that the Beatles, Brian Jones, Little Richard or David Bowie pioneered? The White Stripes did it, but that's one group. One group.

That's why I advocate these stale don't-know-if-they're-ironic-or-what bands to put down the electric guitars, and the drums and quit posing like your rock and rollers. Big Band Music, the biggest thing on earth at one time, lasted 20 years at the most. Basically rock and roll had the same kind of arc from 1955-1975. A melding with disco and punk kept it on life support a few years before it pretty much collapsed. Did we really need the hair bands of the 80s? Was Guns and Roses all that important?

When I go to see the Stones I'm going to see masters of an old art form that they advanced and had a huge hand in creating. But I know in all likelihood they are way past their peak. I've given up hearing that last great album from them, knowing that any new work will be hindered by having to 'sound like the Stones'. (See the Beach Boys).

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I think 24FPS believes (correct me if I'm wrong) that there shouldn't have been any post-1979 rock bands, good or bad, because the style had had its day by then and needed to be replaced with something new. All those bands playing "rock" in the 80s were wasting time they should have spent on some other, less retro, music.

Trouble is that things just aren't as neat and tidy as that. Yes, Big Band music ran for about 20 years and died out, for economic as much as artistic reasons, but other styles come and go and run in parallel with each other, setting off new musical hybrids. The Beatles and the Stones themselves took a style that was already fading in its home country and created something new out of it. Folk and jazz come and go. Country has never really gone away. Soul is having a bit of a comeback with some good new female artists. Rap and hip-hop have had their time in the sun and are now getting a bit old hat themselves. Caribbean music came to Britain with West Indian immigrants and out of that came ska and blue-beat and bands like Madness, UB40 and The Police. There are people rediscovering blues, rockabilly, klezmer, cajun, bhangra and all kinds of stuff. Where the next Big Thing will come from is anybody's guess, and it isn't 100% certain that we won't like it - though it's probably 90% certain that it won't be any kind of rock.

Rock in its various forms isn't going to go away, but it has lost its overwhelming dominance of popular music. No bad thing really. It means that people who play rock do it because that's the music that appeals to them. No point in telling them they ought to be an electronic dance act instead because that's fashionable!

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Green Lady
I think 24FPS believes (correct me if I'm wrong) that there shouldn't have been any post-1979 rock bands, good or bad, because the style had had its day by then and needed to be replaced with something new. All those bands playing "rock" in the 80s were wasting time they should have spent on some other, less retro, music.

Trouble is that things just aren't as neat and tidy as that. Yes, Big Band music ran for about 20 years and died out, for economic as much as artistic reasons, but other styles come and go and run in parallel with each other, setting off new musical hybrids. The Beatles and the Stones themselves took a style that was already fading in its home country and created something new out of it. Folk and jazz come and go. Country has never really gone away. Soul is having a bit of a comeback with some good new female artists. Rap and hip-hop have had their time in the sun and are now getting a bit old hat themselves. Caribbean music came to Britain with West Indian immigrants and out of that came ska and blue-beat and bands like Madness, UB40 and The Police. There are people rediscovering blues, rockabilly, klezmer, cajun, bhangra and all kinds of stuff. Where the next Big Thing will come from is anybody's guess, and it isn't 100% certain that we won't like it - though it's probably 90% certain that it won't be any kind of rock.

Rock in its various forms isn't going to go away, but it has lost its overwhelming dominance of popular music. No bad thing really. It means that people who play rock do it because that's the music that appeals to them. No point in telling them they ought to be an electronic dance act instead because that's fashionable!

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Naturalust
I know there is plenty of good music being made, it's just harder for the average person to find it.

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24FPS
Yes, you are out of time. Rock and Roll is mostly over, and has been over, after a short burst in the early 90s that crescendoed and died with Kurt Cobain's brains hurtling into space.

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Naturalust
query this:

Because you have a life? peace

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24FPS
Yes, you are out of time. Rock and Roll is mostly over, and has been over, after a short burst in the early 90s that crescendoed and died with Kurt Cobain's brains hurtling into space.

1985, when your listening pleasure ended, is 37 years ago. 37 years is a long time. 37 years earlier than 1985 is 1948. That's Big Band music time, and even then it was on its last legs.

There is no reason to look for bands that are pale imitations of rock and roll that came before them, as in The Black Keys. We have plenty of records to listen to from 1955-somewhere in the 80s that are chock full of rock goodness. If we continue to prop up retro bands then we will only delay the next revolution in music. And that revolution will not be a rhytym guitarist, lead, bass, and drums. Rock and Roll was an extension of blues, C&W, and a tinge of jazz. It was played with new instruments. Those instruments are played out.

Enjoy what few classic artists can still play the real thing, Neil Young, The Stones, McCartney. And then let the future happen. You will hate the future. But the future is not about you. Your, our, time has past. Rock and Roll was our revolution. Now we must give up the things of childhood and not stand in the way of the next generation.

27 years ago was indeed a long time ago--it only feels like 37, doesn't it? But isn't rock always fizzling out and then recycling itself? Look at the first wave of rockers in the 50s how they died off or fizzled out, then look what happened to pop music in the early 60s, the soft and soppy singing stars (just like now). The Beatles and Stones brought something refreshing, but it was largely based on what they had heard before. Let's not forget the contribution made by Jim Marshall to how rock later sounded. One thing, though, always amused me about the punks--the way they rebelled against the previous generation... with the same instruments, only played faster. Then when synth-pop (techno pop) took over radio music in the early to mid 80s, it was predicted that music would only get more technological from there, and you could hear interviews with synth-pop artists of the time saying how they were bored with the "limitations" of rock music. I don't know, I'll believe it's truly over when the last-ever guitar shop goes out of business for lack of sales--and right now, my favorite local guitar shop is doing just fine, people of all ages come in to try out and purchase those same old brands of guitars and amps. Like Johnny (Rotten) Lydon said recently, "The generation gap in rock was started by Pete Townshend in 1965 with the song My Generation." Let's see the next generation come up with new instruments before there's any so-called next music revolution.

Sorry about my math. Getting old. The most disappointing thing about todays so called rock artists is their apathy. None of them seem to say, Yeah the Beatles and Stones were great, but we're going to be better! We're going to be more innovative! We're going to write better songs! Which is what the Beatles and STones did. Young people suck, only this time they suck because they are lame.