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Drake

well then post it, man

I still remember the angry denunciations about the explicit S&M videos shown behind the band during "Tie You Up (the Pain of Love)" and the equally revolting videos during Too Much Blood and Pretty Beat Up. As I recall, Back To Zero was a fan favorite everywhere it was played. However, they did have to drop Fight from the setlist because the audiences all took it as a cue to start bashing each other.

and oh yes, I remember Keith announcing, "this one bore's even me, go to the bathroom now" before launching into Wanna Hold You.

Ah, the memories...

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I heard they closed with In Heaven There Is No Beer.

I don't know.

After I shouted "Fortune Teller (you Devil)" after each number Mick eventually said "it ain't happening".

I left.

Ted Nugent was the opener in '85 and the Stones did a version of "Let It Rock" that was even better than the one in '78. By this point the only words to the song Mick remembered were "In the heat of the day down in Mobile, Alabama".

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There was no 85-86 tour

Indeed there was one, and it was by far the best tour ever, can't believe you have missed it !!!!!

HMN
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There was no 85-86 tour

Indeed there was one, and it was by far the best tour ever, can't believe you have missed it !!!!!

from tour rehearsals at villa nellecote,may ´85

I don't have a problem with JFK '78, or any of the outdoor shows. In Philly, despite Jagger's cold, I think the band sounds fine. Same with Buffalo, Chicago, Anaheim, Oakland (I only have part of Cleveland, which does sound odd). I think we only have one audio source for all the outdoor ones, right? Remember these were recorded at probably 100 feet away in a huge stadium where the acoustics can be somewhat dubious (even today). The second Anaheim show sounds like it was recorded 300 feet away with a towel over the recorder. I think the disappointment is with the audience not familiar with Some Girls (especially 8 songs in a row) and not hearing Gimme Shelter or Sympathy or whatever favorite. Indeed when they started the tour, I was expecting to hear pretty much Love You Live with a few Some Girls songs thrown in. But with the audio sources we have, I don't fine the band floundering at all. Some odd mixes (they were, after all, outdoor shows from different audio sources), and a few clunker notes, but they sound great to me. Looking back, the pace of the show and the playing was outstanding.

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Jaggerbarking
There was no 85-86 tour

don't believe everything you read....

I'm vexed. Does that mean I should believe that I shouldn't believe everything I read, because I'm reading it, or does that mean I shouldn't?

yes and no

Yes I'm vexed? I already know I'm vexed.

Now I'm perplexed.

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Ted Nugent was the opener in '85 and the Stones did a version of "Let It Rock" that was even better than the one in '78. By this point the only words to the song Mick remembered were "In the heat of the day down in Mobile, Alabama".

Well.. nearly... he said "Moble Amabama".

I think some don't see the reality of 78 and the time. Could it be that your dopesmoked beershaded brain forgot those times?
I would like to recall that with the Rolling Stones post-punk reply releasing Some Girls and actually touring with a raw bottom line rock and roll song set it was the echo of the No future values which have been once again fantastically covered by the band who can whirl around in every decade since 1962.
It was also the transformation from last flowers of the Hippies to the dirty lines of Punk-Excess. While gathering with a sixpack and a tent the night before to see the Stones or any other group we are time squeezed today and cannot even wait until the show is over, but have to SMS and call right through the concerts. The magic of music and shows changed from Rock and Roll to Theatredreams with highly technical second sound.
It does not matter what is better or worse. It only matters the time and the vibrations we are capturing during such times. And they have been better or worse like today.

The 1978 tour made me love garage punk rock and roll on a big scale.
Seen the band over 80 times since...maybe more.
They achieved some of The Stones greatness on at least some of the songs on every show. Mixing arena's and stadiums is always difficult, yet The Stones pull it off.

.02 worth

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I can tell you when Angie, Wild horses, It's Only Rock & Roll, Get Off My Cloud and many other songs started in 1975 no one in the house knew what they were playing. Love in vain was unreconizable in 1978. Brown Sugar, JJF, SFM were played poorly in 1978 & 1975. During the Wood era the band did not play consistently well until 1989. Raw is one thing sloppy is another. In my view the SNL performance was representative of the entire 1978 tour.

I have seen them every tour since 1972.

ohhh i see thats why love in vain got a standng ovation in anaheim

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The 1978 tour made me love garage punk rock and roll on a big scale.
Seen the band over 80 times since...maybe more.

moreover 80?

80?

Do you guys have jobs?

I saw them more than once on this tour, and when you allege no one knew the songs, you are absolutely incorrect...Since you thought the '89 Greatest Hits sets were better, we're not in accord about these things...

Try putting on the 2 LP set entitled "Garden State 78", and then tell me their playing was "amateur", i dare you!!



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one of the very earliest boots I ever got. Have the original LP to this day. Classic, absolutely classic.

Eggzactly...

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one of the very earliest boots I ever got. Have the original LP to this day. Classic, absolutely classic.

new jersey's in the country, innit?

the mix of the guitars is sub-par...too thin. much better on the king biscuit stuff....still...they were great in seventy-eight....

I saw the two Anaheim shows. The first was a train wreck, the second rocked. They were 2 days in a row so you tell me? Could be booze and pills, white powder? It was definitely a contrast from one show to the next.

Not sure what the complaints about the 81 shows are. I thought that they were way better than 78.

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I can tell you when Angie, Wild horses, It's Only Rock & Roll, Get Off My Cloud and many other songs started in 1975 no one in the house knew what they were playing. Love in vain was unreconizable in 1978. Brown Sugar, JJF, SFM were played poorly in 1978 & 1975. During the Wood era the band did not play consistently well until 1989. Raw is one thing sloppy is another. In my view the SNL performance was representative of the entire 1978 tour.

I have seen them every tour since 1972.

ohhh i see thats why love in vain got a standng ovation in anaheim

Everyone was already standing.

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The 1978 tour made me love garage punk rock and roll on a big scale.
Seen the band over 80 times since...maybe more.

moreover 80?

Yeah, I got carried away....was like a second job actually.
Living in North America makes it easier to see so many shows...although
was lucky enough to see two Wembley Arena shows as well.

The thing is, it is so great to follow the band, and see so many
friends and fellow fans over and over.

The Stones are/were one of those bands that really play/played such a
different set list on different nights. Seeing 20 shows or so on
a certain tour guaranteed you a chance to hear and witness gems
not oft played. Moonlight Mile, Some Girls, Wild Horses, Star Star, Route 66,
You Got The Silver, CYHMK, Rooster.....seeing them do it, is always better than hearing it on a boot, or album. Sure there might be a sour song, or off night for a partial set, but each concert has the brilliance that chills us all to the bone. The obvious love the band has for playing live comes through everytime.

Plus, once you get a hand shake, a nod, a setlist given to you, a grin and a point......it keeps you going to the next show.

IMHO anyway.....sorry for going on and on.

By the way, the 78 tour really happened, it was no myth....



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Garden state is a great raw recording

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By the way, the 78 tour really happened, it was no myth....

so was 85-86...too bad so many mythed it...

My first Stones show was Passiac 78. Drove down from Boston. It remains my favorite Stones show. Yes...sloppy, but tight. Loud and raw. FUN! They were having fun. I've seen them multiple times on every tour up to Licks and I don't remember them having that much fun.

Sorry detractors but I loved my 78 experience. Handsome Girls has great stuff too.

To me...the 78 tour was the last gasp of the nasty freak show Stones. Went corporate after that. 81/82 was the crossover. Steel Wheels and onward...done.

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I haven't listened to anything other than Fort Worth since the 1990's... That was the bootleg that changed the perception of the tour.

Considering the horrid Philadelphia show was one of the few non theatre shows early in the tour, that was the one that was most reviewed. A horrible show with mostly "new" songs by what had already become a classic rock band. Some Girls had yet to sink in and achieve classic status.

They may have blown the doors off the theatres but most people didn't see or even hear about those shows. Of course it came together perfectly in Fort Worth but for many years the 1978 tour wasn't particularly well regarded.

But then before I had bootlegs all I had was the Chet Flippo book.

You mean "On The Road With the Stones" (or something like that)?

dont know what show or planet you were on,saw them at jfk in phillie,june 17th,1978.32 years to the day,they were amazingly tight,incredible show!!!

anybody thats on a phone during a stones show is an @#$%&.

The '78 Tour was great. There have been sloppy shows on every tour but there's enough recorded proof that there was greatness on that tour. The greatness is no myth.

Where's Jaggerbarking gone? He sounded like a funny guy. A complete d!ck for sure but also a funny guy...

The myth ends here. A typical 1978 version, swinging and rocking:





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