Anyone who attended the shows will tel you it was a mess. I was there the playing was beyond amateur. The bootlegs confirm it. Many nights you couldn't tell the song until mick sung the lyrics. 1975 was the same.

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“If you're going to kick authority in the teeth, you might as well use two feet.”

I had never seen them before so I had nothing to compare it too. I thought they sounded pretty good.

So why are the recorded shows so GODD**NED GOOOODD Then?

i mutht be mything thumpthing....



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Jaggerbarking needs to go to the doctor's office if he/she can't tell the songs on this tour:





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The bootlegs confirm it.

No, that's the Supertramp '78 tour bootlegs you've been listening too much to lately, not the Stones '78 tour boots.

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I saw only 2 shows that year. It made not want to see another Stones show for the rest of my life. Terrible show, terrible playing. A big joke.

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I saw only 2 shows that year. It made not want to see another Stones show for the rest of my life. Terrible show, terrible playing. A big joke.

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I saw only 2 shows that year. It made not want to see another Stones show for the rest of my life. Terrible show, terrible playing. A big joke.

What happened, did you stop seeing Stones-shows?

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I think it's a typo in the thread title.

It should be "The Mess of The 76 Tour".

A language translation problem.. probably.

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Anyone who attended the shows will tel you it was a mess. I was there the playing was beyond amateur. The bootlegs confirm it. Many nights you couldn't tell the song until mick sung the lyrics. 1975 was the same.

Obviously you missed at least the Fort Worth show...even before released officially this one confirms something completely different from what you´re claiming.

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Anyone who attended the shows will tel you it was a mess. I was there the playing was beyond amateur. The bootlegs confirm it. Many nights you couldn't tell the song until mick sung the lyrics. 1975 was the same.

Obviously you missed at least the Fort Worth show...even before released officially this one confirms something completely different from what you´re claiming.

Not to forget Detroit, Memphis, Passaic Theater, Lexington, Houston and other good shows...

He/she must have been really unlucky in 1978.

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The 1978 tour is one of the Stones greatest achievements. I envy the fact that you were there and resent the fact that you didnt get it. You should be shot.

My first Stones show was the 1978 Philadelphia concert, a triple bill with Foreigner and Peter Tosh. My brothers and I arrived the night before to camp out in the parking lot. We were nearly crushed getting through the gates in the morning. Then we had to wait and wait and wait for a mediocre 85 minute Stones performance.

Philly '78 was one of the most disappointing shows I've seen in 39 years of concertgoing, though not as embarrassing as the 1974 George Harrison tour. The experience made me swear off stadium shows for several years. But their back catalog wouldn't let me give up on Stones shows, and I've been back 21 times.

Two months later, I saw Bruce Springsteen's first show as a headliner at Madison Square Garden, the first of 35 Springsteen shows I've seen. If it were a prize fight, Bruce Springsteen would have beaten Mick Jagger all over the ring.

And it wasn't just that Philly was a bad show. The Houston show DVD in the Darkness on the Edge of Town box set is not the E Street Band at its absolute best, but it's a better performance than the Fort Worth DVD.

It just goes to show that I don't "understand a dick" of music, as we would say here in Italy. For more than 30 years I thought that the 78 tour boots documented the best Stones ever!

What next? Santa Claus doesn't exist?


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Actually, I thought it was common "knowledge' that the '78 tour was hastily put together, Keith was somewhere b/w states of existence, and that a lot of the shows were, as the OP noted, a mess.

I saw then in Cleveland for the first time on that tour. My memories of that show are somewhat "clouded" but I remember loving every minute of it. But it was a particular time and place that can never be replicated and not an objective assessment of the performance.

Overall, I don't have a problem with it. the KBFH recording where they put a few shows together and included Hound Dog in Memphis is still one of my all time favorite listens. For the Ronnie Wood bashers, take a listen to his playing on taht recording, especially Love In Vain. Anyway, I love Fort Worth and Pasaic. Detroit to me seems a little off. I recall reading that Philly and Buffalo, among others, were absolute disasters.

So it's a mixed bag. But isn't that true of most tours since 1972?

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Actually, I thought it was common "knowledge' that the '78 tour was hastily put together, Keith was somewhere b/w states of existence, and that a lot of the shows were, as the OP noted, a mess.

I saw then in Cleveland for the first time on that tour. My memories of that show are somewhat "clouded" but I remember loving every minute of it. But it was a particular time and place that can never be replicated and not an objective assessment of the performance.

Overall, I don't have a problem with it. the KBFH recording where they put a few shows together and included Hound Dog in Memphis is still one of my all time favorite listens. For the Ronnie Wood bashers, take a listen to his playing on taht recording, especially Love In Vain. Anyway, I love Fort Worth and Pasaic. Detroit to me seems a little off. I recall reading that Philly and Buffalo, among others, were absolute disasters.

So it's a mixed bag. But isn't that true of most tours since 1972?

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I saw only 2 shows that year. It made not want to see another Stones show for the rest of my life. Terrible show, terrible playing. A big joke.

Your remakrs on this board are getting stale.

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I saw only 2 shows that year. It made not want to see another Stones show for the rest of my life. Terrible show, terrible playing. A big joke.

What happened, did you stop seeing Stones-shows?

Nope! Another 45 since 78. Glad for the big comeback in 89'!

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I saw only 2 shows that year. It made not want to see another Stones show for the rest of my life. Terrible show, terrible playing. A big joke.

What happened, did you stop seeing Stones-shows?

Nope! Another 45 since 78. Glad for the big comeback in 89'!

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45?

You must have a lot of money.

1978 Concerts were like the times...A big party!!

The Stones knew then and still do know how to throw a party...1978 kicked butt...

It was raw and rocking..A wild time..A fun time...Fans camped out just to get tickets and
then had to camp out again to get a good spot on the field!
And most of us were partying and drinking all night...Even more then the Stones....

I think 1978 was the last real hard rocking free partying tour...Before assign seats
and more police to calm the concerts down. (God help us if you stand and dance.)

78 may not have been the best in some peoples eyes but for me it was a blast...And i was at the Philly
show and i loved it.....Yes it was fast...But so were the times....I had a blast...

I can tell you when Angie, Wild horses, It's Only Rock & Roll, Get Off My Cloud and many other songs started in 1975 no one in the house knew what they were playing. Love in vain was unreconizable in 1978. Brown Sugar, JJF, SFM were played poorly in 1978 & 1975. During the Wood era the band did not play consistently well until 1989. Raw is one thing sloppy is another. In my view the SNL performance was representative of the entire 1978 tour.

I have seen them every tour since 1972.

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I have seen them every tour since 1972.

the 85-86 tour included?

the Philly show was terrible, but I caught them @ the Palladium in June '78 and they did rock the house, no doubt about it

Although I haven't been to any of the 78 shows (but I saw the movie" Live in Texas 78" and I listened to "Handsome girls" many many times), the 1978 US Tour is my favorite tour. It seems that some shows during that tour were great and others weren't. The rolling Stones were in the 30's, they had a shitload of energy and basic rock and roll music was back in fashion. The Stones jumped on the opportunity to refresh the collective memory that playing rock and roll was what they were good at. The musical chaos and the @#$%& you attitude of 78 isn't to everybody's taste but for me it was exicting to witness them cut their long hair and reinvent themselves as rock and rollers.
Rock and roll,
Mops

There was no 85-86 tour

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There was no 85-86 tour

don't believe everything you read....

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There was no 85-86 tour

don't believe everything you read....

I'm vexed. Does that mean I should believe that I shouldn't believe everything I read, because I'm reading it, or does that mean I shouldn't?