The Stones at their pinnacle......



















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This is awsome and man watch and listen to the last one again. Not bad, not bad at all.

Definitive. Perfect song, perfect line up, perfect time.

I never get tired of their '78 version of this. I could listen to it for hours.
BTW, does Charlie play a 4-on-the-floor for this? At times in the Texas video it looks like he is.

As good as it is, it doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version on the B-side of Brown Sugar, particularly the guitars, the intro, and Stu's boogie-woogie piano.







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As good as it is, it doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version on the B-side of Brown Sugar, particularly the guitars, the intro, and Stu's boogie-woogie piano.

Seriously?

I like the Leeds version, but I can't stand Keith's guitar sound. That goes for the Marquee-show as well.

To my ears, the Leeds 1971 version wipes the floor with any other version. First, Keef takes all the leads in '71. Second, I much prefer the '71 Ampeg tone to the '78 Mesa/Boogie tone. Third, the rhythm section is tighter in '71. Fourth, Jagger sounds like a coked up self-parody in '78.

Never really noticed Keith's playing on the 79 benefit version. His solo from 2:19 defines rock n roll IMHO . GO KEEF

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To my ears, the Leeds 1971 version wipes the floor with any other version. First, Keef takes all the leads in '71. Second, I much prefer the '71 Ampeg tone to the '78 Mesa/Boogie tone. Third, the rhythm section is tighter in '71. Fourth, Jagger sounds like a coked up self-parody in '78.

Well, it might be the only tour he used a totally clean sound. IMO, it makes it more difficult for him to do hos licks. But each to their own...

BTW, Didn't he use Fender at the Marquee?



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To my ears, the Leeds 1971 version wipes the floor with any other version. First, Keef takes all the leads in '71. Second, I much prefer the '71 Ampeg tone to the '78 Mesa/Boogie tone. Third, the rhythm section is tighter in '71. Fourth, Jagger sounds like a coked up self-parody in '78.

From a musical point of view Charlie and Bill where much more tight in '78 than in '71, especially Charlie had become a much more solid drummer than in the early 70's. About the Ampegs: in '71 they where really clean, probably due to the sizes of the venues. And for the smaller veneues they even switched to Fender amps. The '78 sound is half Boogie, half Ampeg: the pre-amp of the Boogie is used, and the power amp of the Ampeg is used.

Mathijs

71 sounds better than 78 version

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As good as it is, it doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version on the B-side of Brown Sugar, particularly the guitars, the intro, and Stu's boogie-woogie piano.

I probably agree with you, but it is apples and oranges. The 78 version has alot of pump and rawness. Alot to be said for each.

Give me 89 through 99 anyday.

Agree, both 71 and 78 r good

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As good as it is, it doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version on the B-side of Brown Sugar, particularly the guitars, the intro, and Stu's boogie-woogie piano.

Seriously?

I like the Leeds version, but I can't stand Keith's guitar sound. That goes for the Marquee-show as well.

Yes seriously. Mick actually sings the words to the song in this version too. the '78 version is pretty slapdash.

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As good as it is, it doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version on the B-side of Brown Sugar, particularly the guitars, the intro, and Stu's boogie-woogie piano.

Seriously?

I like the Leeds version, but I can't stand Keith's guitar sound. That goes for the Marquee-show as well.

Yes seriously. Mick actually sings the words to the song in this version too. the '78 version is pretty slapdash.

Remember, as I'm sure you do, that 78 was a very punky time. Those guys were capable of playing "clean" guitar if they had chosen to.



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As good as it is, it doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version on the B-side of Brown Sugar, particularly the guitars, the intro, and Stu's boogie-woogie piano.

Seriously?

I like the Leeds version, but I can't stand Keith's guitar sound. That goes for the Marquee-show as well.

Seriously indeed. I love the grand raunch Keith gets on this track is awesome and when he kicks into over drive after the second solo floors me everytime I hear it. Rock and roll guitar as God meant it to be!

Folks, please listen again to the "Let It Rock" version from the SECOND ( = Oct.6th, 1970 ) show in Frankfurt, Keith is on fire and leaves everybody behind ( litarally! )

Live at Leeds has a soft spot in my heart.. First bootleg I ever heard. HOWEVER, 78 rocks the house down.

Taylor is boring. Leeds version just sounds sterile in comparison, regardless of how great it is from a technical standpoint. All 3 of those examples from 78 just plain kickass.

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Folks, please listen again to the "Let It Rock" version from the SECOND ( = Oct.6th, 1970 ) show in Frankfurt, Keith is on fire and leaves everybody behind ( litarally! )

Agreed.

The 1971 versions compared to the '78 versions:

1: Taylor has a warmer guitar sound and plays a more solid rhythm guitar than Ron, who sounds like a faltering razor apparatus: One of the misconceptions about punks is that all punks are skinheads, so Ron's sound suits him.

2: Some '78 versions are played too fast and sloppy, which undermines the rock feel between Bill and Charlie and vice versa. Jagger lacks a bit of melody in the first clip.

The rest of the band almost equalizes, although Keith should have cranked up his amp a little in the M.C -'71. In '78 they probably had more fun due to cocaine abuse.

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As good as it is, it doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version on the B-side of Brown Sugar, particularly the guitars, the intro, and Stu's boogie-woogie piano.

IMO ....the coked-out energy that the Stones had on the 78 tour was the perfect edge for covering Chuck...never better

Always funny this version where Mick lost track of the song starting from 0.51 till 0.59 and sings at 0.60 where right on track............

song starts at 0.45
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As good as it is, it doesn't hold a candle to the Leeds version on the B-side of Brown Sugar, particularly the guitars, the intro, and Stu's boogie-woogie piano.

IMO ....the coked-out energy that the Stones had on the 78 tour was the perfect edge for covering Chuck...never better

That's nuts. The groove they had at Leeds and in '69 has never been matched on their Berry live covers. '78 is fun, but it is thrashy and sloppy. Nothing matches Richards and Taylor locking in on a Berry groove with Ian Stewart playing that upper-octave piano along with them and Bill and Charlie laying it down like a freight train.

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The Stones at their pinnacle......

Their pinnacle? Really?


Hey, I like "Let It Rock" as much as the next guy, but I'd hardly rate it that high.


Personally, I think it a lot of the acclaim it gets from Stones fans is because it's so obscure. Yes, you win the trivia question of where it's from, congratulations.

But as far as a Berry composition (and Stones cover), I'd rank "Bye, Bye, Johnnie" or "Around and Around" or "Carol" far above "Let It Rock."

I mean it's good--but to call it "the pinnacle" is really an overstatement.

brothers and sisters...we all love the stones....there's no use in debating the relative merits of 2 minutes of music...had they put in a 30 second coda or something, then debate might be worthy.

'''The Stones at their pinnacle......'''

- - - i mean the 78 version is ok, but like the version taken from the 1971 Leeds show and the B side to Brown sugar (I think) a million times better. keith's guitar work is nastier, and Jagger didn't flub the lyrics. and its got Stu's boogy woogie. very cool version of this track as well, on Bob Seger's 'Smokin OP's' record.

Sorry to revive the Taylor/Wood thing, but the comparison between these two versions puts to lie to the Woodites' contention that Taylor was all about soloing. Keith plays ALL the solos on the Leeds version, and the two guitars chug along together on this like nobody's business, driving the song FAR better than in '78 in my opinion, the same way they do on the two Berry covers on Ya Yas. In 1978 they used the songs as a sort of warm up. It's fine, but has none of the drive, groove, and majesty of the Leeds version. Every single element is better on the earlier version.

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brothers and sisters...we all love the stones....there's no use in debating the relative merits of 2 minutes of music...had they put in a 30 second coda or something, then debate might be worthy.

Hey, you were gone for a while. Why not sit there at the kids' table for a bit and catch up before joining in the dinner conversation?

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brothers and sisters...we all love the stones....there's no use in debating the relative merits of 2 minutes of music...had they put in a 30 second coda or something, then debate might be worthy.

Hey, you were gone for a while. Why not sit there at the kids' table for a bit and catch up before joining in the dinner conversation?

what are the grownups having tonite? we got spaghetti-o's!

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Sorry to revive the Taylor/Wood thing, but the comparison between these two versions puts to lie to the Woodites' contention that Taylor was all about soloing. Keith plays ALL the solos on the Leeds version, and the two guitars chug along together on this like nobody's business, driving the song FAR better than in '78 in my opinion, the same way they do on the two Berry covers on Ya Yas. In 1978 they used the songs as a sort of warm up. It's fine, but has none of the drive, groove, and majesty of the Leeds version. Every single element is better on the earlier version.

Disagree -I prefer about everything of the '78 version over the '71 version except for Richards second solo on the Leeds version. But in '78 drums and bass where better, it rocked harder and the groove was much better. Sure '71 was good time R&R, but it really misses the filth I like so much in the Stones.

And to note: Taylor's rhythm guitar on LQ from Ya-Ya's was overdubbed by Richards.

Mathijs