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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: uhbuhgullayew ()
Date: June 3, 2012 00:37

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I think it was the Helsinki show in 2007 that recieved some criticism. Especially Keith was slugged. He was believed to be placard. At least according to the same reviewer who penned him down in Gotheburg a few days later.

According to insiders he was dehydrated, not drunk (for once) winking smiley

C'mon Keith, start drinking your Jack on the rocks! spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: June 3, 2012 01:27

Maybe, but he sure can keep secrets, can't he?

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: ROLLINGSTONE ()
Date: June 3, 2012 01:46

This is a 68 year old man with severe arthiritis in his hands. Lay off!

"I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon."

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Loudei ()
Date: June 3, 2012 02:41

Oh so the band was the one that @#$%& up LLR not Keith... Come on, stop been in denial. Keith's forte in his playing has always been his sense of time and rhythm, lead playing? I don't think so.... He was indeed the player who put the rhythm in the lead.... For too long Keith counted on his fingers to find the chords songs because we all know Keith doesn't really practice unless he is rehearsing with the band. Nevertheless what a body of work what a career what a life. I just dont want to see Keith like this on stage and read all the upcoming threads. Does he Really think his playing is to par for a tour?

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: carlorossi ()
Date: June 3, 2012 02:57

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Oh so the band was the one that @#$%& up LLR not Keith... Come on, stop been in denial. Keith's forte in his playing has always been his sense of time and rhythm,

Can't say that his timing and sense of rhythm is what it once was, but the band (bass player at the very least) did indeed screw up the change from G to D, even as Keith held up his two fingers to try and keep them on the right page.

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: June 3, 2012 07:33

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Someone keeps saying he's playing well ....



In fairness, Costello has since admitted that this fiasco was all his fault because of the way his guitar (which Keith borrowed) had been tuned.

He did? That was pretty nice of him to admit that. A true gentleman.

I will say this though: The Little Red Rooster video I can't see why people have trouble with. The simplicity is what carries that song. OK, so it's not the 1989 version with Clapton and screaming guitars galore, but it's certainly reminiscent of the original Stones single (And it's always been the best version of that song).
This video with Elvis Costello is hit and miss. When he's out of it, it sounds terrible, but when he rolls on it, he rolls like no other (Which again shows that nobody can keep a rolling rythm like Keith, practised or not). He is rusty yes, but how do people expect him to knock that rust off? If, what Jagger says, a rehearsal show is worth 3 weeks in the rehearsal studio, then why can't Keith use that to get his engine oiled up? He's trying to get up to par with his playing right now, but the whiners on this site, who never fail to miss a point, wants him to play like a teenager right from the get-go. Give him time. That's what he needs right now.

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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: June 3, 2012 12:53

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This is something Keith cannot do anymore. I blame it on booze and blow not age.

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: June 3, 2012 18:56

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This is something Keith cannot do anymore. I blame it on booze and blow not age.

Ballocks. He could do those two chords in his sleep. Give him time to warm up he will surprise even the disbelievers like yourself. peace

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: uhbuhgullayew ()
Date: June 3, 2012 19:07

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Everyone knows that the Stones run on "Keith Time".

They have to now, he can't keep up with Mick.

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: June 4, 2012 13:51

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This is something Keith cannot do anymore. I blame it on booze and blow not age.

Ballocks. He could do those two chords in his sleep. Give him time to warm up he will surprise even the disbelievers like yourself. peace

When will he do it?

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: stupidguy2 ()
Date: June 4, 2012 18:35

He could be rusty......it sounds cliche, but if you're a musician who has played most of your life all the time.
and suddenly you get to a point, where the guitar stays in the corner for long periods of time, you get very stiff.
It happens. Keith was that guy who always had a guitar in his hands - on the road and at home... you get older it might not be so urgent....
A few one-off performances isn't a good indication of his sense of rhythm. Its true as you age, you lose your dexterity and sense of place on the fret board....you have to get back into the groove by playing a lot. With good musicians, your hands, arms are an extension of the guitar, like siamese twins....but when you stop playing altogether for extended periods of time - you lose that to a degree. Its like anything, you have to get in shape.



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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: June 4, 2012 21:59

its doubtful that keith never plays in his everyday life.he mentioned that he doesnt really but his idea of playing and everyone elses might be a bit different.

yours-going into your garage and plugging in the old axe.

his-writing songs for a record,making a record,rehearsing for weeks and then going on a tour around the world playing for millions of people.

there was a funny story from the united airlines in-flight magazine in 2010 about the turks and caicos-
just a small thing about keith and patti and some friends at a restaurant and a qoute from a malaysian girl who worked on the island and had no idea who he was-

"he's nice and funny and thinks he's a pirate.i was at his villa and told him you play very beautifully mr richards.i found out later he was a world famous musician"

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 4, 2012 22:06

Lem

I think Keith was on record around the time of the interviews he did when the Exile reissue came out as saying that he hadn't even picked up a guitar for months. When asked by Jimmy Fallon to play he excused himself by saying he was very rusty (if I remember right, he said he hadn't played for a while as he had broken a finger a few months earlier)

Also, Patti said in an interview after her recovery from her bladder cancer ordeal that after she got ill, Keith got rid of the basement studio that he had in their home.

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: June 4, 2012 22:36

yeah,i know.but he has a way of exaggerating things.i get the feeling if you were around him it would be-

keith-"i havent touched a guitar in months"-

you-"how about the two hours you spent banging on that acoustic in the library the other night"

keith-"oh...yeah,thats right"

and he's too much of a pro to get up in front of millions on tv without being properly rehearsed with a band.i may be a little too optimistic but i'm just not that worried about this.you have to realise people have been worrying about his health and wondering whether he was gonna make it since ive been listening to the stones.and believe me,thats a long time.they always say the same thing"but you dont know,this time its really bad because....."

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Title5Take1 ()
Date: June 5, 2012 08:06

Do people expect to hear Yes playing ROUNDABOUT when they hear the Stones/Keith? I love the Stones because they're sloppy—and dislike Yes because they're too precise—and this sounds good to me. Love Keith's singing here.

I assume everyone dissing this video will pass on to me any front row Stones/Keith tickets they might happen across in the future. Thanks in advance...

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: June 5, 2012 16:25

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This is a 68 year old man with severe arthiritis in his hands. Lay off!

Its not his hands. His brain is fried. arthiritis doesn't make you play a whole guitar solo in the wrong key.



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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: marko ()
Date: June 5, 2012 17:09

don´t you people have anything else to do?

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: June 5, 2012 18:05

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Do people expect to hear Yes playing ROUNDABOUT when they hear the Stones/Keith? I love the Stones because they're sloppy—and dislike Yes because they're too precise—and this sounds good to me. Love Keith's singing here.

I assume everyone dissing this video will pass on to me any front row Stones/Keith tickets they might happen across in the future. Thanks in advance...

No fans of the Rolling Stones want the band to sound great. I dont care about Yes.

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Title5Take1 ()
Date: June 5, 2012 20:08

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Do people expect to hear Yes playing ROUNDABOUT when they hear the Stones/Keith? I love the Stones because they're sloppy—and dislike Yes because they're too precise—and this sounds good to me. Love Keith's singing here.

I assume everyone dissing this video will pass on to me any front row Stones/Keith tickets they might happen across in the future. Thanks in advance...

No fans of the Rolling Stones want the band to sound great. I dont care about Yes.

You don't want the Rolling Stones to sound great? Interesting perspective. (A little joke. No comma after your "No" made you say the opposite of what you meant to say.)



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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: carlorossi ()
Date: June 5, 2012 23:51

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arthiritis doesn't make you play a whole guitar solo in the wrong key.

1995 Sympathy? Jesus, that was 17 years ago. If it was fried brain syndrome then, how did he get through the Bridges and NS tours?

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: June 6, 2012 01:40

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Someone keeps saying he's playing well ....



In fairness, Costello has since admitted that this fiasco was all his fault because of the way his guitar (which Keith borrowed) had been tuned.

What was different about it's tuning?

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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: June 6, 2012 01:52

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yeah,i know.but he has a way of exaggerating things.i get the feeling if you were around him it would be-

keith-"i havent touched a guitar in months"-

you-"how about the two hours you spent banging on that acoustic in the library the other night"

keith-"oh...yeah,thats right"

and he's too much of a pro to get up in front of millions on tv without being properly rehearsed with a band.i may be a little too optimistic but i'm just not that worried about this.you have to realise people have been worrying about his health and wondering whether he was gonna make it since ive been listening to the stones.and believe me,thats a long time.they always say the same thing"but you dont know,this time its really bad because....."


Perhaps you're right Lem. Curious what is your take is on Keith stating he no longer considers himself a musician any longer, but rather an entertainer. What do you think that means exactly (to Keith)?

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: June 6, 2012 02:59

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perhaps you're right Lem. Curious what is your take is on Keith stating he no longer considers himself a musician any longer, but rather an entertainer. What do you think that means exactly (to Keith)?

my take is that keith is a knucklehead and i dont pay attention to anything he says.

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Date: June 6, 2012 10:43

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In fairness, Costello has since admitted that this fiasco was all his fault because of the way his guitar (which Keith borrowed) had been tuned.

What was different about it's tuning?

It was supposedly out of tune. However, I really don't think it was. It sounds ok to me. There are only a few times Keith is a bit off here - some licks sound fine.

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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: June 6, 2012 12:52

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Someone keeps saying he's playing well ....



In fairness, Costello has since admitted that this fiasco was all his fault because of the way his guitar (which Keith borrowed) had been tuned.

What was different about it's tuning?

Nothing. The playing however is not very good.

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Date: June 6, 2012 14:15

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Someone keeps saying he's playing well ....



In fairness, Costello has since admitted that this fiasco was all his fault because of the way his guitar (which Keith borrowed) had been tuned.

What was different about it's tuning?

Nothing. The playing however is not very good.

Well, actually, sometimes it is, sometimes it is not. The sound is crap, though.

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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: Loudei ()
Date: June 6, 2012 15:25






Here it sounds better and you can hear Keith having trouble keeping that rhythm down. I also think he has trouble with a too long guitar strap

Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Date: June 6, 2012 15:38

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Here it sounds better and you can hear Keith having trouble keeping that rhythm down. I also think he has trouble with a too long guitar strap

He starts out with a pretty tight rhythm (first minute or so), imo. Then he gets some trouble with the (BIG) guitar smiling smiley

I don't hear the big problems with keeping a steady rhythm when he is playing licks, though. A couple of times Costello is a little off himself, and Keith waits himself in, resting on a note.

A few times, Keith is off here, of course. IMO, it's not as bad as people say, though. I've heard far worse from him in the later years.

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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: June 6, 2012 17:04

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arthiritis doesn't make you play a whole guitar solo in the wrong key.

1995 Sympathy? Jesus, that was 17 years ago. If it was fried brain syndrome then, how did he get through the Bridges and NS tours?

I'm talking about licks and ABB. Even before his fall. Still doing sympathy in the wrong key. Toronto ABB not one right note in ATPTB. Surprised can still remember his name. He's getting worst. At 68 you might slow down as a musician but you don't start playing like an amature.



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Re: Keith can't keep time anymore
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: June 6, 2012 17:10

Does anyone have the vid of Keith's isolated guitar from It's only R and R live?

I don't think he played on right chord or note for the full song. Fried.

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